Sick Boy
Super Moderator
A refugee and an immigrant aren't necessarily the same thing...I pay £10 a month subscription for English Heritage membership. If you've been given refugee status you go for free!
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Immigration and Asylum (5 Viewers)
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DT-R
Well-Known Member
No, but why am I paying for somebody not born of this country to benefit from freebies amd handouts?
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Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It's a charity providing refugees with free entry; you're not directly paying for them. People can't go on about others not integrating into society but then complain when a refugee wants to go and admire the country and learn more about its history.
DT-R
Well-Known Member
I didnt mean I was paying for them. I missed a comma. Why am I paying, only for somebody else to get free handouts. Is what i meant.
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shmmeee
Well-Known Member
When you say immigrants do you mean people like my Dutch missus who moved here seven years ago? How do you know?
People sitting outside cafes is just a cultural difference. We sit around someone’s house they sit outside cafes. I’m not sure you know what jobs or immigration statuses people have just by looking TBF.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Feel free to set up a charity and distribute the donations I guess.
Ccfcisparks
Well-Known Member
Is that the model?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I’m sure I’m going to regret this, but: What?
Ccfcisparks
Well-Known Member
When you finger her does she shit down your arm?
Rwanda is not a stable country.
Gynnsthetonic
Well-Known Member
I'm sure your Dutch missus does not claim benefits
DT-R
Well-Known Member
If they could afford an egg?No, i dont disagree with that. One of my biggest regrets was not trying to get Australian citizenship whilst in the army.
I disagree with "leaving because x, y, or z politicians got voted in"! Just look at the Americans now with egg on their face saying they'd leave if Trump got in. All blindly following celebs. All well and good if you're Ellen and got millions in the bank to just up and move. Look like a bit of a c**t though as Joe blogs that said it because Beyoncé did, and are still sat in you're same house, with the same job, but just with a new president.
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Gynnsthetonic
Well-Known Member
One of the most stable in Africa
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
She doesn’t. She has worked pretty much every day since he arrived. But she does have a long term health condition that’s treated by the NHS. But if you saw her in the waiting room you wouldn’t know she was an immigrant is my point. Because she’s white and speaks with a British accent.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
They started off there. When Israel tried the Rwanda scheme they found the majority of returns just went straight back to people trafficking routes.
I think you really underestimate how much people want to move countries.
Not sponsoring a terrorist group?
Maybe not but what I said is still correct.
Gynnsthetonic
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't class Arsenal as a terrorist organisation
Ian1779
Well-Known Member
It’s boring that after 5 years of debating people still don’t know the difference between the terms refugee, asylum seeker and immigrant.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Or that none of those are illegal immigrants.
Otis
Well-Known Member
I honestly don't think Reform have a cat in hell's chance of getting in.
As they say, a week is a long time in politics, let alone 4 years. These extreme parties always get found out.
I think if there was any danger of Reform getting in, I think Labour, the Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens, would probably all get together and form some sort of coalition to prevent that from happening.
Farage is all just rhetoric. He's already had to rein back on the two week nonsense. Now saying two weeks after agreement, which could take several months, even years.
As they say, a week is a long time in politics, let alone 4 years. These extreme parties always get found out.
I think if there was any danger of Reform getting in, I think Labour, the Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens, would probably all get together and form some sort of coalition to prevent that from happening.
Farage is all just rhetoric. He's already had to rein back on the two week nonsense. Now saying two weeks after agreement, which could take several months, even years.
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shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I don’t think it looks good for them. Their ceiling seems to have been hit. They won’t get more mainstream without annoying the crazies. There’s no more non voters to tap.
Never say never but the conference talk of “election soon guys” was huge cope and I wonder if they know they can’t keep this up for another three years. FPTP doesn’t favour them and a majority of the country really doesn’t like them.
Most parties get a conference boost from the coverage but they got a conference dip as people saw the other mental stuff they do.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
Well-Known Member
I think it depends really.
There's certainly too much in-fighting and I would say most people who would vote for them wouldn't be doing so because they necessarily like them or believe they are going to solve all the problems. It's more of a protest really.
That said, should there be another big event. A terrorist attack or such the like, or an absolute bollock drop from the Labour Party, then we might see Reform scale up again.
TomRad85
Well-Known Member
God help us all if that happens.
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
I agree. Imagine trying to fit all those different colours and logos on one flag.
Nick
Administrator
Yeah, there is; people from Somalia, for example, are massively scrounging.
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Typical Mo bloody Farah
Nick
Administrator
Although have a drive past Culworth Court at any time of the day and it's pretty obvious.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Don’t be so sure
Farage started with he’ll stop them in 2 weeks
Then changed to we’ll stop in 2 weeks after the legislation has gone through parliament mmmmmmmm
Marty
Well-Known Member
Doesn't live in the country any more does he. Took what he could get and fucked off.
Ccfcisparks
Well-Known Member
I'd say he gave a lot more to our country than he took on the balance of play