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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 24, 2025
  • #1,541
Grendel said:
20% of pensioners live below the poverty line
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It’s more like 17% and equates to about 1.9 million people.

More worrying is the 31% of children that live in poverty which equates to about 4.5 million children.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 28, 2025
  • #1,542

France to start intercepting small boats in the Channel after pressure from UK

The change in policy comes after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer wrote to President Emmanuel Macron.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 28, 2025
  • #1,543
chiefdave said:

France to start intercepting small boats in the Channel after pressure from UK

The change in policy comes after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer wrote to President Emmanuel Macron.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Give it a couple of weeks and the Gendarmes will strike. The French often talk a good game only to not deliver.

Hopefully it makes a difference, but still believe we should put the Royal Navy in channel and turn back boats.
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 28, 2025
  • #1,544
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Give it a couple of weeks and the Gendarmes will strike. The French often talk a good game only to not deliver.

Hopefully it makes a difference, but still believe we should put the Royal Navy in channel and turn back boats.
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Or chum it up to bring the great white sharks
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 28, 2025
  • #1,545
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Give it a couple of weeks and the Gendarmes will strike. The French often talk a good game only to not deliver.

Hopefully it makes a difference, but still believe we should put the Royal Navy in channel and turn back boats.
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That would be the natural conclusion of the Brexit.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Nov 29, 2025
  • #1,546
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Give it a couple of weeks and the Gendarmes will strike. The French often talk a good game only to not deliver.

Hopefully it makes a difference, but still believe we should put the Royal Navy in channel and turn back boats.
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The Greeks are doing it.
 
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Dougin

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,547

Afghan asylum seekers who raped 15-year-old girl are jailed

Small boat migrants Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, both 17, are facing jail for raping the 15-year-old in a park at the heart of Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, on May 10.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,548
Dougin said:

Afghan asylum seekers who raped 15-year-old girl are jailed

Small boat migrants Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, both 17, are facing jail for raping the 15-year-old in a park at the heart of Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, on May 10.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Good, and deport them when the sentence is over.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,549
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Good, and deport them when the sentence is over.
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Problem is that one is being deported immediately. Unlikely to serve the sentence handed down in his own country, so will probably try to make his way over again as a free man. Not sure what the alternative is with full prisons and incurring costs, but I doubt it feels like justice to the victim.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,550
Not a single small boat arrival for a month.

Have Labour stopped the boats? Have the French started playing their part? Or has rain stopped play?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,551
chiefdave said:
Not sure these figures even exist but I would love to know how much we spend each year on pensioners in end of life care who, to be frank, would rather be allowed to die.

My Dads in to year 4 of end of life care. I pay 4 figures a month towards the cost, even through it really should be covered by the NHS, but I'm aware I'm not paying even 50% of the actual cost. There is zero benefit in keeping him alive, he has no clue where he is, no idea who anyone else is, is bed bound, can't see, can't hear and when awake is pretty much in a constant state of distress.

There's 24 people in my Dads care home, so relatively small, but you're still looking at millions a year. Scale that up over the whole country and that's a lot of money.

Every single relative you speak to will tell you the same thing. That their parent / grandparent would not want to live like that yet nobody seems to want to have a discussion about alternatives.

Just to be clear not counting this as a drain on society or suggesting we start culling people but from whatever perspective you look at it not sure the current system works for anyone.

Going through this with my Dad has made me look into alternatives for myself, which would be a trip to Switzerland, but it’s near impossible to arrange without putting other people in fear of prosecution.
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Bless you so sad
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 8, 2025
  • #1,552
PVA said:
Not a single small boat arrival for a month.

Have Labour stopped the boats? Have the French started playing their part? Or has rain stopped play?
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Cab’t say I know for certain but don’t they tend to slow/stop at this time of year because of the weather?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,553
SBAndy said:
Cab’t say I know for certain but don’t they tend to slow/stop at this time of year because of the weather?
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You’d think there’d be a limited number of people
Unfortunately due to our inability as a human race to take appropriate actions to prevent disastrous climate change this will be in the millions over the coming decades
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,554
fatso said:
This has to be the most rediculous post on here! Are you deliberately wumming?

You clearly have absolutely no idea how the economy functions.
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It is not how it functions, only an idiot would believe that the government maintains a large pension savings account paid for by pensioners years ago. If it was the case, the arguments over the size of the welfare bill would be pretty redundant.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,555
SBAndy said:
Cab’t say I know for certain but don’t they tend to slow/stop at this time of year because of the weather?
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Certainly slows down.

But for the same period that there have been zero crossings this year, there were 1,037 people arriving by boat last year.

Probably weather related given how wet it's been in recent weeks.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,556
PVA said:
Certainly slows down.

But for the same period that there have been zero crossings this year, there were 1,037 people arriving by boat last year.

Probably weather related given how wet it's been in recent weeks.
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Reform have put them off another win for the boys
 

Marty

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,557
rob9872 said:
Problem is that one is being deported immediately. Unlikely to serve the sentence handed down in his own country, so will probably try to make his way over again as a free man. Not sure what the alternative is with full prisons and incurring costs, but I doubt it feels like justice to the victim.
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Drown them in a bucket of water.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,558
PVA said:
Certainly slows down.

But for the same period that there have been zero crossings this year, there were 1,037 people arriving by boat last year.

Probably weather related given how wet it's been in recent weeks.
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Can't believe that those smugglers have a heart? Unbelievable that they don't risk a crossing?🫣
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,559
wingy said:
Can't believe that those smugglers have a heart? Unbelievable that they don't risk a crossing?🫣
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Probably not a good look for business if they all drown. Also, supply and demand I guess.
 
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fatso

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,560
fernandopartridge said:
It is not how it functions, only an idiot would believe that the government maintains a large pension savings account paid for by pensioners years ago. If it was the case, the arguments over the size of the welfare bill would be pretty redundant.
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That's the opposite of what im saying!

There is no seperate pot of cash for pensions or anything else for that matter.

There is just a tax take of national wealth (at 100% eventually) that has to be circulated, unfortunately this government along with previous government's cant manage it.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,561
fatso said:
That's the opposite of what im saying!

There is no seperate pot of cash for pensions or anything else for that matter.

There is just a tax take of national wealth (at 100% eventually) that has to be circulated, unfortunately this government along with previous government's cant manage it.
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Apologies, my mistake then
 
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Dougin

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,562

Man, 28, accused of raping two teenage girls in Bolton - BBC News

GMP says Sultani Bakatash is accused of sexual offences against two 14-year-old girls.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Dougin

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,563

Four charged in rape and exploitation probe - BBC News

Three men and a teenager charged as part of an investigation into the rape and exploitation.
www.bbc.com
 
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Dougin

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  • Dec 9, 2025
  • #1,564
Don’t worry, everything is fine…..
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Dec 16, 2025
  • #1,565

Authorities accused of attempting to 'cover up' Afghan migrant rape

The police and judiciary are alleged to have shrouded the case of Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal in secrecy 'from start to finish' after they were arrested for raping a schoolgirl.
mol.im
The authorities should hand there heads in shame.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Dec 16, 2025
  • #1,566
Gynnsthetonic said:

Authorities accused of attempting to 'cover up' Afghan migrant rape

The police and judiciary are alleged to have shrouded the case of Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal in secrecy 'from start to finish' after they were arrested for raping a schoolgirl.
mol.im
The authorities should hand there heads in shame.
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Why are we still feeding and watering these cunts.
They have ruined the life of that girl, there needs to be proper punishment for rapist's and sex offenders. Vile creatures.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Dec 16, 2025
  • #1,567
Bugsy said:
Why are we still feeding and watering these cunts.
They have ruined the life of that girl, there needs to be proper punishment for rapist's and sex offenders. Vile creatures.
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Have you seen the clothes they're wearing ffs, more money than the local teenagers. Why are we doing this. The Nuneaton assault to come next. When will people realise these people are not part of our culture
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 16, 2025
  • #1,568
Bugsy said:
there needs to be proper punishment for rapist's and sex offenders.
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Certainly need to look at sentencing. Doesn't feel appropriate to me that in cases such as this the sentence is essentially halved due to the age of the perpetrators.

I can see that making sense for minor offences, give younger people a chance to turn their lives around, but not for serious crimes.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #1,569
PVA said:
Not a single small boat arrival for a month.

Have Labour stopped the boats? Have the French started playing their part? Or has rain stopped play?
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We always knew the answer

More than 800 migrants cross English Channel in December record - BBC News

The 803 arrivals - a record for a December day - brings the total number this year to 41,455.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #1,570
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #1,571
Evo1883 said:
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Sounds like it would have been horrendous.

At least the authorities got them. Just several tens of thousands more to go. What a mess.
 
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