No offence but I don't think your user name immediately sprang to mind when people read the OP.
I understand they employ a PR firm at great expense though Godiva...wouldn't expect Joy Seppala or Tim Fisher to spend all day posting on here! Although of course that could explain Tim's recent absence ;-)
I know I've given you stick for being a SISU 'plant' Godiva but I know you're not...As I know from doing it myself through my work you have to appear to be balanced...and you are far too pro SISU ;-)
I work for the Council.
He could have Larry David and Mel Brooks writing for him, yet you'd never laugh.
What do you think he's been doing in the last two or three days? He's reigned it in because it was getting too blatant!
Thats outrageous...didnt you ever watch Winner Takes All!
ACL, SISU, Council, Higgs and don't declare it.
Gotta say fairplay to PWKH whether you agree with what he says or not, he is the only one on here with the guts to say who he is.
I can't believe that there is no one else.
No, never, I don't even know what it is TBH..
Lets have a guessing game then who is employed by who. I'll start with Grendel employed by Walt Disney as a dwarf, trying to think which one
one in seven dwarves aren't happy
I am not talking about Spam either :facepalm: and what you are talking about above may not be illiegal in the UK but it is highly unethical and that any major brand would consider damaging its reputation through such activity is shocking.I'm not talking about 'spam' though Matty I'm talking about real people posting in 'real time' attempting to influence people's views. I had to do it myself for one client when I was asked to sign up to appropriate forums and suggest to members products my client supplied but from a ordinary joe public perspective and say "Have you tried..?". Most companies do it now and I don't doubt that this now well used PR tactic has been used a lot by the parties over the last few months.
I am not talking about Spam either :facepalm: and what you are talking about above may not be illiegal in the UK but it is highly unethical and that any major brand would consider damaging its reputation through such activity is shocking.
"Sellers are responsible for claims they make about their products and services. Third parties - such as advertising agencies or website designers and catalog marketers - also may be liable for making or disseminating deceptive representations if they participate in the preparation or distribution of the advertising, or know about the deceptive claims"
I would say pretending to be someone else to market a product through stealth would be classed as deception, and if you were in the US the FTC would close you down in an instant were they to discover such practices.
Thats outrageous...didnt you ever watch Winner Takes All!
But they aren't employed by sisu directly.
So in the same instance neither are the players...Do you agree?
To me stupot07, that excuse is one massive cop out mate:facepalm:
I thought a lot more of you than to pose that scenario. They are either the wage payers, or they're not! which is it?
No one who works for the club works for sisu. You are wrong.
Except the board who are employed by the investors.
It is pretty common in the UK.
I am not talking about Spam either :facepalm: and what you are talking about above may not be illiegal in the UK but it is highly unethical and that any major brand would consider damaging its reputation through such activity is shocking.
"Sellers are responsible for claims they make about their products and services. Third parties - such as advertising agencies or website designers and catalog marketers - also may be liable for making or disseminating deceptive representations if they participate in the preparation or distribution of the advertising, or know about the deceptive claims"
I would say pretending to be someone else to market a product through stealth would be classed as deception, and if you were in the US the FTC would close you down in an instant were they to discover such practices.
The players are also not directly employed by sisu, that isn't a massive cop out, it's a fact.So in the same instance neither are the players...Do you agree?
To me stupot07, that excuse is one massive cop out mate:facepalm:
I thought a lot more of you than to pose that scenario. They are either the wage payers, or they're not! which is it?
I'm actually genuinely shocked that you think the corporate world would be above using tactics like these. In my experienceI am not talking about Spam either :facepalm: and what you are talking about above may not be illiegal in the UK but it is highly unethical and that any major brand would consider damaging its reputation through such activity is shocking.
"Sellers are responsible for claims they make about their products and services. Third parties - such as advertising agencies or website designers and catalog marketers - also may be liable for making or disseminating deceptive representations if they participate in the preparation or distribution of the advertising, or know about the deceptive claims"
I would say pretending to be someone else to market a product through stealth would be classed as deception, and if you were in the US the FTC would close you down in an instant were they to discover such practices.
Why fair play to him. He only has to say a few words and people like you start salivating. He likes the limelight and if he is an assumed name the message would have less effect.
ACL, SISU, Council, Higgs and don't declare it.
Gotta say fairplay to PWKH whether you agree with what he says or not, he is the only one on here with the guts to say who he is.
I can't believe that there is no one else.
I find I have to review most previous post....SISU, as we all know, are prone to reneging on paying owed dues...So I guess you may be right after all stupo07..........Who owns CCFC?...in any shape or form, or whatever they deem to call the owning company at the present time? Aren't any bills, wages paid by SISU?...They are quick enough to say they are owing £60m...who to?..Themselves?
I've missed something who is PWKH?
I'm actually genuinely shocked that you think the corporate world would be above using tactics like these. In my experience
....and I have worked for many years in that world...being ethical isn't usually their top priority...that would be the bottom line and many companies will stop at nothing to protect that whether it is ethical or not. As I said I've got personal experience of this tactic being actively used
I work in the corporate world and for my company and its main competitors its all now about gaining an edge via social responsibility and ethical trading policies. I can't talk for all corporate industry of course but I would as I said be amazed if any company would knowingly use such a subversive process given the catastrophic effect it would have on both brand and image were they caught doing so.
Fair enough Matty and it's refreshing that this has been your experience but I'm talking as someone with a PR and Advertising background and trust me it does go on. Whether that is without the knowledge of their clients then that's a different matter altogether.
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