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I might just go and watch Wasps (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Snozz_is_god
  • Start date Oct 11, 2014
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Deleted member 4232

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #36
Limey said:
Watching Cov Rugby Club rise back to the top would be a far more rewarding experience. Shame our Council have so little faith in their own City teams. (I can't stand Rugby by the way)
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Totally agree, but as your last statement secures - it wasn't just the council who have let down and forgotten CRFC.
 
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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #37
stupot07 said:
i sincerely hope they don't. anyone who boycotted sixfields and attends a wasps game is a hyprocrite in my eyes. As northern says, perhaps sisu ought to move us to belfast, its ok, not everyone over there supports Gaelic Football or cares if it is labelled 'franchise' so i'm sure they'll get behind sky blues fc
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I don't think you realise how many people are excited for the move. Ive even spoken to london based supporters and whilst they're devestated in the move, they understand and hope the club thrives. They won't stop supporting, they will just watch more games on TV and travel for the big games
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #38
italiahorse said:
Unlikely, not now they have obtained a world class stadium for little outlay. The team on the pitch will only be one of there income streams.
Could have been us but those tossers SISU gambled and lost.
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I think their income streams will be significantly less than what they are predicting, and revenue streams may be a lot tighter than they think. Their projections for attendances are akin to those of one Mr Fisher when we moved to Northampton.

Lets not forget that these are the same people that it is alleged who may not have been able to secure funding for the stadium until recently.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #39
That Guy said:
Not right now they don't. You forget not everyone in Coventry supports football, or cares if it is labelled 'franchise'. Like me, people are excited to see Premiership Rugby. The club, thankfully, have chosen to nest here in Coventry, where in time we will make it ours
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Or until their entrepreneurial chairman decides to make some capital on that nice little real estate in CV6 and fuck off his franchise elsewhere ?!
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #40
That Guy said:
I don't think you realise how many people are excited for the move.
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Well if its as many as I have met then its a huge zero so far.
 

Covstu

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #41
Wasps took advantage of a shit situation but I don't totally blame them. Rugby isn't my thing but this is something we all have to come to terms with as they are not going away. We need the other half of the ground and I think a partnership approach could be really effective. The council have really let us down which is the bit that sticks in my throat and hopefully this will negatively affect them when it comes to the polls.
 

italiahorse

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #42
Covstu said:
Wasps took advantage of a shit situation but I don't totally blame them. Rugby isn't my thing but this is something we all have to come to terms with as they are not going away. We need the other half of the ground and I think a partnership approach could be really effective. The council have really let us down which is the bit that sticks in my throat and hopefully this will negatively affect them when it comes to the polls.
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Can't see what else the Council could have done other than offer it to Sisu for maybe half the price Wasps paid.
Most Coventry ratepayers would be up in arms if that happened.
CCFC fans are naturally upset but it's happened and we need to get on with it.

Unsure about the Higgs share but we could do with the club obtaining it.
 
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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #43
Coventry City Council selling their Ricoh shares is the best thing they have done since resurfacing Evenlode Crescent. Finally they have not only washed their hands of a ridiculous soap opera with a football clubs owners, but they have ensure the survival of a great rugby club in Wasps and brought a great sustainable flow of sporting events to Coventry.

CCC should never have invested taxpayer money into the ricoh bail out. That's not what i pay them for. They certainly should not have entertained and danced this whole musical of shit-flinging that has panned out the last 2 years.

Now Wasps own the largest premiership rugby stadium, you can expect a better draw for international rugby matches, not to mention the european cup ties, and of course the premiership itself.

The cicus is leaving, and the real shows are about to begin.

EDIT- spelling
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #44
That Guy said:
Coventry City Council selling their Ricoh shares is the best thing they have done since resurfacing Evenlode Crescent. Finally they have not only washed their hands of a ridiculous soap opera with a football clubs owners, but they have ensure the survival of a great rugby club in Wasps and brought a great sustainable flow of sporting events to Coventry.

CCC should never have invested taxpayer money into the ricoh bail out. That's not what i pay them for. They certainly should not have entertained and danced this whole musical of shit-flinging that has panned out the last 2 years.

Now Wasps own the largest premiership rugby stadium, you can expect a better draw for international rugby matches, not to mention the european cup ties, and of course the premiership itself.

The cicus is leaving, and the real shows are about to begin.

EDIT- spelling
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When you say a great sustainable flow of sporting events to Coventry, are you just referring to Wasps games? as I cant see what else is coming.

Re international rugby matches, I do believe all the home nations have their own grounds so why would they come to the Ricoh?

As for a better draw for Euro games, they are drawn in a group and play opponents in it home and away. Playing at the Ricoh makes no difference to that, the stadium in that sense means nothing, nor will it when they are getting lower attendances than they currently do in Wycombe.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #45
Moff said:
When you say a great sustainable flow of sporting events to Coventry, are you just referring to Wasps games? as I cant see what else is coming.

Re international rugby matches, I do believe all the home nations have their own grounds so why would they come to the Ricoh?

As for a better draw for Euro games, they are drawn in a group and play opponents in it home and away. Playing at the Ricoh makes no difference to that, the stadium in that sense means nothing, nor will it when they are getting lower attendances than they currently do in Wycombe.
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and they have to qualify in the first place.....i dont believe they're in the heineken cup this season. they only got 5.5k at home against falcons the other week....once the dust has settled i cant see them attracting that many fans for average league games.

i cant believe any real cov fan would be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of a franchise rugby team....shows where their priorities and loyalties lie. I might start going to watch leicester tigers just to spite them...
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #46
Moff said:
I think their income streams will be significantly less than what they are predicting, and revenue streams may be a lot tighter than they think. Their projections for attendances are akin to those of one Mr Fisher when we moved to Northampton.

Lets not forget that these are the same people that it is alleged who may not have been able to secure funding for the stadium until recently.
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Who were the allegations coming from?
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #47
Rusty Trombone said:
Who were the allegations coming from?
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I seem to recall it was in the press, but cant be fekked at moment to find it. Believe it or dont.
 
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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #48
Moff said:
When you say a great sustainable flow of sporting events to Coventry, are you just referring to Wasps games? as I cant see what else is coming.

Re international rugby matches, I do believe all the home nations have their own grounds so why would they come to the Ricoh?

As for a better draw for Euro games, they are drawn in a group and play opponents in it home and away. Playing at the Ricoh makes no difference to that, the stadium in that sense means nothing, nor will it when they are getting lower attendances than they currently do in Wycombe.
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I meant draw as in appeal. Ricoh did not cut the bidding selection previously when trying to secure the world cup matches - partly to do with no existing rugby club, i'm sure.

I do not think the attendances will be smaller than Adams Park. In fact, i'll put £20 on it right now that the first Ricoh league game will be Wasps highest league attendance this season.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #49
Ashdown said:
Or until their entrepreneurial chairman decides to make some capital on that nice little real estate in CV6 and fuck off his franchise elsewhere ?!
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Can you explain how this will work?
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #50
Moff said:
I seem to recall it was in the press, but cant be fekked at moment to find it. Believe it or dont.
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I think it was sources close to SISU, draw your own conclusions.
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #51
Rusty Trombone said:
I think it was sources close to SISU, draw your own conclusions.
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Or not. It was in the Telegraph...I am sure Simin Gilbert is quite independent of SISU

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/wasps-ricoh-arena-bid-could-7862848
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #52
Moff said:
Or not. It was in the Telegraph...I am sure Simin Gilbert is quite independent of SISU

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/wasps-ricoh-arena-bid-could-7862848
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He's reporting rumours, are you suggesting he made the rumours up?
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #53
That Guy said:
I do not think the attendances will be smaller than Adams Park. In fact, i'll put £20 on it right now that the first Ricoh league game will be Wasps highest league attendance this season.
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It may be. I would also bet that by the end of the season it will be a lot lot lower than that.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #54
Moff said:
It may be. I would also bet that by the end of the season it will be a lot lot lower than that.
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Hold onto that bet for now, I think Leicester is their last game.
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #55
Rusty Trombone said:
He's reporting rumours, are you suggesting he made the rumours up?
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No you are.

I cant see where I said that at all, feel free to make up stuff that suits your agenda if it makes you feel better.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #56
Wycombe Wanders smelling an opportunity

http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/spo...ach_out_to_Wasps_fans_with_free_ticket_offer/
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #57
Moff said:
No you are.

I cant see where I said that at all, feel free to make up stuff that suits your agenda if it makes you feel better.
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It was a question, but feel free to make up stuff about me making up stuff etc etc.
 

Moff

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #58
Rusty Trombone said:
It was a question, but feel free to make up stuff about me making up stuff etc etc.
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And so forth.
If it was an honest question, the honest answer was no I dont think he was making it up.
 

Como

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  • Oct 12, 2014
  • #59
How many options would CCC have for a major tenant for the Ricoh? My guess is that this was the first decent offer so they grabbed it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 12, 2014
  • #60
Como said:
How many options would CCC have for a major tenant for the Ricoh? My guess is that this was the first decent offer so they grabbed it.
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Damn right! The Ricoh is a white elephant and the council has no business running sports arena and would never get another tenant.

Oh wait no. That was last months argument. I mean The Ricoh is a community asset and should've been protected.

Am I doing this right?
 
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