Match Thread Hull (A) Friday 15th September (19 Viewers)

SBT · Sep 13, 2023

By his own admission, Godden is a streaky player who goes through hot and cold spells. May as well stick with him while he’s in form. With only three strikers, Simms is going to get plenty of time regardless.

SkyBlueMatt · Sep 13, 2023

It's simple, while Godden is still scoring he stays in the starting 11. It's not as if Simms is a vastly different type of player. I'm looking forward to him getting a run in the team but I'm sure he is aware if the guy he is trying to replace is scoring goals, he'll have to wait.

Now for my negative prediction, I think we'll lose. We're always crap after a break, the sharpness goes completely out the window and they look like strangers to each other.

We'll get it together soon, it's only teething issues. Give it another 3/4 games and I think we'll start flying.

Irish Sky Blue · Sep 13, 2023

It wasn’t an easy chance. Firstly the timing of his run, secondly being able to hit a travelling ball first time with power and accuracy, both show his ability. The chap sat behind me who had been slating him throughout the game was sat on his hands when Godden scored. His dislike for the player greater than his joy for our equaliser.

I don’t get why some seem keen to belittle what he has done. ( His goals are only ‘tap ins’ that any fool could score). He has shown over his time here that he can and does score a wide variety of goals, many of them requiring an excellent technique.

Robins has shown time and time again that he is ruthless when it comes to team selection.I’ve no doubt that if Godden doesn’t perform then he will be out. The new contract would suggest that Robins doesn’t see that as being anytime soon. The notion that he has ‘favourites’ and would jeopardise results in playing a weakened team just to accommodate them is laughable.

Legia Sky Blue · Sep 13, 2023

As pointed out, Godden tends to score his goals in prolific short spells so it would be silly to drop him while he's in one of those spells. He will eventually hit a dry spell or get injured and we will then see the Wright/ Simms combo anyhow, when hopefully Simms has settled in a little better and has maybe grabbed the odd goal here or there off the bench.

The really silly bit on this subject has been reference to Godden only scoring tap ins anyone could score. Firstly it involves a basic failure of understanding football, and the instinct and mindest it takes for a goalscorer to buy space and lose his markers in order to score those 'tap ins'. Godden has it, Micky Quinn had it, McNulty had it, Terry Gibson had it, Ian Wallace had it etc, but some forwards don't, even if they were still good players, Regis and Adebola for instance. We haven't yet seen enough of Wright and Simms to know which category they will fall in, but it isn't an automatic that they would have been in the same positions as Godden to score those 'tap ins'.

Then of course is the Watford goal. Anyone thinking that was a 'tap in' needs their heads looking at. It was approaching the end of the game where after a lung busting run he hits the ball first time from the edge of the penalty area into the corner of the net. In the same circumstances it would have been odds against any other player in our team scoring. They would either have hit it over the bar, hit it wide or hit it within the keepers reach!

Deleted member 9744 · Sep 13, 2023

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Isn’t his goals per minutes one of the best in the league in that time? How else are you measuring record?

I remember Grendel trying to argue this once and all he could come up with above Godden was Mitrovic and some guy from Stoke who had scored one goal in ten minutes as a sub. I doubt it is much different now. Can't be bothered to do the research but I would be amazed if there are many strikers with a better goals per minute rate than Godden.

slowpoke · Sep 13, 2023

fatso said:
It's only 90 minutes from Sheffield to Hull

Just over 60 miles, should make it easily for an evening kick-off.

Macca1987 · Sep 13, 2023

Yeah but if he's been drinking the vodka and the jager then who knows

Skyblue1971 · Sep 13, 2023

slowpoke said:
Just over 60 miles, should make it easily for an evening kick-off.

Anyone know where Skyblues fans will congregate for a beer post match. I'm travelling from Leeds on the train

Chris1987 · Sep 13, 2023

Skyblue1971 said:
Anyone know where Skyblues fans will congregate for a beer post match. I'm travelling from Leeds on the train

Would like to know the same thing. Getting into Hull at 5.15 on the train from Sheffield ( Fadz it's only 80 minutes on the train ! )

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

clint van damme said:
Let's stick Dasilva in goal Friday.
We'll never know if he'd concede less than Wilson unless we give him a chance.

If you can’t form a coherent argument and explain your point well then fair enough but at least admit it rather than reverting to the same old sarcasm and ridiculous exaggeration. The amount of people that can’t come up with a single idea other than sticking with 32 year old Matty Godden is pretty worrying tbf

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

shmmeee said:
How long do you give Godden without scoring before Simms gets a chance? Obviously most of this hangs on Simms in training, but I just don’t feel Godden is in undroppable form. It wasn’t long ago that he was fingers in the ears-ing is because he was getting stick for how he was playing. Couple of tap ins later and he’s undroppable.

Exactly, with the amount of Godden-love we seem to have on here it’d take at least half the season before we even consider dropping him for a single game. We’ve got to be proactive rather than reactive, not just thinking about what we’ve seen 2-3 weeks ago but what sort of challenges we’ve got coming up and whether Godden is always the answer for those challenges.

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

fatso said:
No ones offended mate, it's just a fucking stupid idea.

What, the idea that it’s possible to drop a 32 year old geezer that’s neither strong, quick or tall when there’s a £5 million signing sitting on the bench that is easily all of those things? You think Godden is THAT amazing that’s it’s a fucking stupid idea to drop him for one game? One single game?!
We’re not talking about Gyokeres here, Godden played second fiddle pretty much all of last season, he scores 2 easy goals (and one slightly harder one) and suddenly he’s our most undroppable and loved player.
I’m not saying Simms is definitively the answer to all our problems (I’d rather see Wright up top as a sole striker with 2 attacking mids in behind) but at least consider the idea that for some games, even for just a single game, the answer to all our attacking problems might not be Matty Godden.

Everyone’s obviously entitled to their opinion and I don’t like talking shit about anyone’s ideas because at the end of the day we’re all on the same side so there’s no real reason to argue amongst ourselves but I just wish people had more of an open mind to mixing up the team sheet a bit. Just because we take out a guy that’s scored 3 goals this season doesn’t mean we’re going to stop scoring goals, it is actually possible that goals can come from other formations and other players too.

clint van damme · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
If you can’t form a coherent argument and explain your point well then fair enough but at least admit it rather than reverting to the same old sarcasm and ridiculous exaggeration. The amount of people that can’t come up with a single idea other than sticking with 32 year old Matty Godden is pretty worrying tbf

If you can't see that all my other posts on the subject since yesterday have presented coherent arguments and the one you've quoted is the only one I've resorted to sarcasm in then fair enough but at least admit it!

And I honestly don't know what you're thinking arguing dropping our top scorer, even for this place, its bonkers.

mmttww · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
What, the idea that it’s possible to drop a 32 year old geezer that’s neither strong, quick or tall when there’s a £5 million signing sitting on the bench that is easily all of those things? You think Godden is THAT amazing that’s it’s a fucking stupid idea to drop him for one game? One single game?!
We’re not talking about Gyokeres here, Godden played second fiddle pretty much all of last season, he scores 2 easy goals (and one slightly harder one) and suddenly he’s our most undroppable and loved player.
I’m not saying Simms is definitively the answer to all our problems (I’d rather see Wright up top as a sole striker with 2 attacking mids in behind) but at least consider the idea that for some games, even for just a single game, the answer to all our attacking problems might not be Matty Godden.

Everyone’s obviously entitled to their opinion and I don’t like talking shit about anyone’s ideas because at the end of the day we’re all on the same side so there’s no real reason to argue amongst ourselves but I just wish people had more of an open mind to mixing up the team sheet a bit. Just because we take out a guy that’s scored 3 goals this season doesn’t mean we’re going to stop scoring goals, it is actually possible that goals can come from other formations and other players too.

PARKLIFE!

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Sep 14, 2023

fatso said:
It's only 90 minutes from Sheffield to Hull

Would you be expected to go do your job straight after a funeral?

Ccfcisparks · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
What, the idea that it’s possible to drop a 32 year old geezer that’s neither strong, quick or tall when there’s a £5 million signing sitting on the bench that is easily all of those things? You think Godden is THAT amazing that’s it’s a fucking stupid idea to drop him for one game? One single game?!
We’re not talking about Gyokeres here, Godden played second fiddle pretty much all of last season, he scores 2 easy goals (and one slightly harder one) and suddenly he’s our most undroppable and loved player.
I’m not saying Simms is definitively the answer to all our problems (I’d rather see Wright up top as a sole striker with 2 attacking mids in behind) but at least consider the idea that for some games, even for just a single game, the answer to all our attacking problems might not be Matty Godden.

Everyone’s obviously entitled to their opinion and I don’t like talking shit about anyone’s ideas because at the end of the day we’re all on the same side so there’s no real reason to argue amongst ourselves but I just wish people had more of an open mind to mixing up the team sheet a bit. Just because we take out a guy that’s scored 3 goals this season doesn’t mean we’re going to stop scoring goals, it is actually possible that goals can come from other formations and other players too.

Yes but if he is scoring goals why try fix something that isn't broken?

Covkid1968# · Sep 14, 2023

the rumpo kid said:
Logged in to ccfc but can't find how many points I have, can someone give me directions please.

Not sure if it was answered or you found it Rumpo....but you go into buy tickets and then log in. If you click on the icon highlighted your points are at the top. My son George has 1060

shmmeee · Sep 14, 2023

Covkid1968# said:
Not sure if it was answered or you found it Rumpo....but you go into buy tickets and then log in. If you click on the icon highlighted your points are at the top. My son George has 1060View attachment 31825 View attachment 31826

Id blank out the supporter number just in case.

Old Warwickshire lad · Sep 14, 2023

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Would you be expected to go do your job straight after a funeral?

Yes of course,happened all the time when I was working.

shmmeee · Sep 14, 2023

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Would you be expected to go do your job straight after a funeral?

Yes? I’ve known loads of people come in after a funeral in the morning. I guess it depends how close you are and if you’re hanging around.

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

mmttww said:
PARKLIFE!

Love it I’m glad Blur won the Brit pop battle though, wayyy better than Oasis.

Saddlebrains · Sep 14, 2023

Fadz is playing Friday don't worry lads

Frostie · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
Love it I’m glad Blur won the Brit pop battle though, wayyy better than Oasis.

Nick, you need to do something about these trolls

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
Yes but if he is scoring goals why try fix something that isn't broken?

Fair enough point but my argument all along has been that our midfield-attack transition has been lacking, and although Godden is quick to react and has scored 3 goals so far for us, I think a different formation or different players would mean that we score more goals than we currently are. By having players that offer other abilities such as pace, height and strength it may be that we create more chances. Watford and Boro were both very leaky, other than that we’ve only scored 1 goal or less per game. I’m not saying it’s definitely the way to go but I think we should be at least open to the idea and give it a try for a game.

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

Frostie said:
Nick, you need to do something about these trolls

Nah come on you can’t say Oasis was more influential than Blur The themes Albarn talks about on the album 13 are way beyond anything Oasis ever wrote! Don’t get me wrong they had some good hits but once you’ve heard them a few times they get boring, Blur had hit after hit and they’re still going, they don’t have face-offs mid-gig every other week

SBT · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
Nah come on you can’t say Oasis was more influential than Blur The themes Albarn talks about on the album 13 are way beyond anything Oasis ever wrote! Don’t get me wrong they had some good hits but once you’ve heard them a few times they get boring, Blur had hit after hit and they’re still going, they don’t have face-offs mid-gig every other week

I think you can make the case for Blur having a stronger back catalogue overall, but Oasis are unquestionably more influential

Calista · Sep 14, 2023

shmmeee said:
I just don’t feel Godden is in undroppable form

True, but he is clearly in much better physical condition than when he put in so many sluggish performances last season, and he's sticking the ball in the net.

There's no urgency or justification to give Simms preference over him at the moment - he's young, on a long contract, and his opportunities will come soon enough without forcing things.

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

clint van damme said:
If you can't see that all my other posts on the subject since yesterday have presented coherent arguments and the one you've quoted is the only one I've resorted to sarcasm in then fair enough but at least admit it!

And I honestly don't know what you're thinking arguing dropping our top scorer, even for this place, its bonkers.

Fair enough you’ve made some decent points in the past with regards to our Godden debates, and I was probably a bit grouchy last night tbf, apologies, I just don’t feel like he’s the answer to all our problems. I get this feeling with Godden that although he scores us goals it’s sort of holding us back in the long run by not allowing us to try new formations or maybe having Simms playing Wright, something that may give us more goals in the long term. I’m sure he’ll keep scoring the odd goal here and there but I’m just concerned that we don’t put teams to the sword, it’s always 1-0, 1-1, 2-0 or 2-1.
I know everyone thinks I sound backwards and that’s fine but I think we should be playing our two new multi-million signings together more and letting Godden have time on the bench every 1 in 4-5 games or something, just mix it up a bit, keep oppositions guessing what team is going to turn up. Anyway, it doesn’t matter as I’m not Robins and I’m guessing Godden will be starting every game until he’s injured, we’ll get to celebrate his 1 goal every other game at least.

BlueSkiesForever · Sep 14, 2023

SBT said:
I think you can make the case for Blur having a stronger back catalogue overall, but Oasis are unquestionably more influential

Maybe you could make that case, Oasis perhaps started a new wave of singer-songwriter type bands? I suppose that northern twang in their songs has influenced the likes of Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, The Pigeon Detectives, Kaiser Chiefs, Scouting For Girls etc, but for me personally (and obvs it’s just all personal taste) Blur have a wider influence, maybe influencing bands like Coldplay, Snow Patrol, The Killers, The Klaxons, Kings of Leon, The Editors, Elbow or early Radiohead to an extent. I think their music is much more wider-ranging and looks at everyday people’s lives in a way that Oasis never did. Not to mention the fact that Albarn went on to front Gorillaz, another highly influential band for a completely different generation.
Both Oasis and Blur have their merits but to me Blur is the far better band.

Ccfcisparks · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
Fair enough point but my argument all along has been that our midfield-attack transition has been lacking, and although Godden is quick to react and has scored 3 goals so far for us, I think a different formation or different players would mean that we score more goals than we currently are. By having players that offer other abilities such as pace, height and strength it may be that we create more chances. Watford and Boro were both very leaky, other than that we’ve only scored 1 goal or less per game. I’m not saying it’s definitely the way to go but I think we should be at least open to the idea and give it a try for a game.

Yes but you could flip that and say we've only failed to score in 1 game. Against Watford the attack wasn't the issue, it was the defending and had that been up to scratch I'm sure people wouldn't be opposed to Godden and Wright starting together again.

Skyblueweeman · Sep 14, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
Love it I’m glad Blur won the Brit pop battle though, wayyy better than Oasis.

They won the battle, they didn't win the war. Now on the naughty step for you.

Offhegoes · Sep 14, 2023

I think it's safe to say it will be Wright and one other this season, if we're playing a front 2.
Was slightly surprised to see Simms & Godden start together a fair amount already this season (Leicester, Sunderland, Middlesborough) Hopefully Tavarres will also offer something different when he is back as he's closer to Wright in his style than the Fox in The Box style of Godden and Simms.

Ccfcisparks · Sep 14, 2023

Offhegoes said:
I think it's safe to say it will be Wright and one other this season, if we're playing a front 2.
Was slightly surprised to see Simms & Godden start together a fair amount already this season (Leicester, Sunderland, Middlesborough) Hopefully Tavarres will also offer something different when he is back as he's closer to Wright in his style than the Fox in The Box style of Godden and Simms.

Tavares will be nowhere near the squad

Skyblueweeman · Sep 14, 2023

Wilson
Binks Kitching Bidwell
MVE Sheaf Eccles DaSilva
Ayari
Wright Godden

Subs: Collins, Binks, Latibeaudiere, Sakamoto, Kelly, Allen, Simms, , Obikwu, Andrews

Ccfcisparks · Sep 14, 2023

Skyblueweeman said:
Wilson
Binks Kitching Bidwell
MVE Sheaf Eccles DaSilva
Ayari
Wright Godden

Subs: Collins, Binks, Latibeaudiere, Sakamoto, Kelly, Allen, Simms, , Obikwu, Andrews

Binks starting and on the bench a bit tough for the poor bloke.

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