Huge endorsement for Shaw on Talk Sport (1 Viewer)

theprince · Aug 29, 2012

Award winning Journalist Mike Calvin gave a big endorsement regards Richard Shaw on the Keys/Gray slot on Talk Sport at about 10.50am. Apart from being a reporter he is a Millwall fan and said he had spoken to Shaw many times during his period there and has high regard for him as a football person and in his opinion has what it takes to make a good manager. Said he was reserve team manager there and was always taking players aside to try and improve them and was held with high regerd by the players.

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

Wasn't a big help to AT though was he?

What was he doing biding his time?

valiant15 · Aug 29, 2012

If its his opinion that he'll make a good manager then he must be right eh?

kg82 · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
Wasn't a big help to AT though was he?

What was he doing biding his time?

He had 1 pre-season and 4 games with Thorn! Hardly biding his time!

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

kg82 said:
He had 1 pre-season and 4 games with Thorn! Hardly biding his time!

My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games before we could make a call on him as permanent replacement - SISU haven't got the patience for that - that much is now obvious

skyblueirish · Aug 29, 2012

i always thought it would be Shaw due to SSISU trying to save money. I think he could be quite good but we all got burned with Thorn when he got some initial success

kg82 · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games before we could make a call on him as permanent replacement - SISU haven't got the patience for that - that much is now obvious

Huh? I wasn't commenting on Shaw's ability as manager. I'm with you that he'd need more games to prove himself. But your original comment sounded like a conspiracy theory to the sacking of Thorn!

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueirish said:
i always thought it would be Shaw due to SSISU trying to save money. I think he could be quite good but we all got burned with Thorn when he got some initial success

Axing Thorn so quickly showed us a little of SISU's mind - they are looking at continuing big losses in this league which they won't want to fund - we have sold everyone we can for now- they HAVE to get us back up or it will continue to cost Millions a year to fund - I'm convinced they are spinning the dice one last time and that doesn't mean they will run to the end of the season whatever happens

If it looks like we won't make the play-offs at least then they might give up and write it off - that's why they acted so fast and that's why they won't give Shaw a chance - much as he might well deserve it

SkyBlueScottie · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games before we could make a call on him as permanent replacement - SISU haven't got the patience for that - that much is now obvious

I guess the journo is basing it on at his time Millwall and not the pre season + 4 games here.....

PVA · Aug 29, 2012

He is thought of very highly indeed at Millwall.

pusbccfc · Aug 29, 2012

Yeah heard it as well. Basically telling us to give him the job asap.

ggrady · Aug 29, 2012

Just do a Chelsea and keep him as caretaker worked for di mateo so if guardiola doesnt fancy the challenge give it shaw

sky_blue_up_north · Aug 29, 2012

He has had one game in charge, yes we won. Lets wait and see what happens at Crewe and Burton games... if we lose one of those everything will change again. You know its true!!

fernandopartridge · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games before we could make a call on him as permanent replacement - SISU haven't got the patience for that - that much is now obvious

Thorn wasn't sacked for the 4 games this season.

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

fernandopartridge said:
Thorn wasn't sacked for the 4 games this season.

I believe he was you know - I think SISU have just panicked

bulkingtonskyblues · Aug 29, 2012

shaw was sacked as milwall asistant so he couldnt have been that good, if the new man wants to keep shaw and carsley on thats up to him but lets forget this shaw bandwagon

PVA · Aug 29, 2012

bulkingtonskyblues said:
shaw was sacked as milwall asistant so he couldnt have been that good, if the new man wants to keep shaw and carsley on thats up to him but lets forget this shaw bandwagon

He wasn't sacked.

kg82 · Aug 29, 2012

bulkingtonskyblues said:
shaw was sacked as milwall asistant so he couldnt have been that good, if the new man wants to keep shaw and carsley on thats up to him but lets forget this shaw bandwagon

Yeah everyone, stop having your own opinions :facepalm:

stupot07 · Aug 29, 2012

bulkingtonskyblues said:
shaw was sacked as milwall asistant so he couldnt have been that good, if the new man wants to keep shaw and carsley on thats up to him but lets forget this shaw bandwagon

I forgot we're only allowed to have the 'Wise' bandwagon

Otis · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
I believe he was you know - I think SISU have just panicked

He was sacked because Fisher could see the same pattern as last year emerging.

I can't believe for a single second that it was just because of the games this season.

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

Otis said:
He was sacked because Fisher could see the same pattern as last year emerging.

I can't believe for a single second that it was just because of the games this season.

If Fisher had a good handle on all this AT would have been gone long ago last season - it was obvious then it wasn't working albeit with the constraints on AT - I think he is under MASSIVE pressure from SISU and just cannot afford to let results slip for even a few games - timing of the sacking just doesn't make sense - YES AT was sacked because of last season BUT he was given another go and YES I agree Fisher could see the same pattern - so YES he was sacked because of these few games or else he would have been out

hill83 · Aug 29, 2012

Fisher could see what many people were saying, he did not panic.
Also I can't find anything saying the Shaw was sacked.

Otis · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
If Fisher had a good handle on all this AT would have been gone long ago last season - it was obvious then it wasn't working albeit with the constraints on AT - I think he is under MASSIVE pressure from SISU and just cannot afford to let results slip for even a few games - timing of the sacking just doesn't make sense - YES AT was sacked because of last season BUT he was given another go and YES I agree Fisher could see the same pattern - so YES he was sacked because of these few games or else he would have been out

But it wasn't just that was it. Been a number of posts on here about off the field altercations. Whatever has happened I don't know, but it seems there was something else going on too.

skybluedaze · Aug 29, 2012

theprince said:
Award winning Journalist Mike Calvin gave a big endorsement regards Richard Shaw on the Keys/Gray slot on Talk Sport at about 10.50am. Apart from being a reporter he is a Millwall fan and said he had spoken to Shaw many times during his period there and has high regard for him as a football person and in his opinion has what it takes to make a good manager. Said he was reserve team manager there and was always taking players aside to try and improve them and was held with high regerd by the players.

I actually heard this. The guy couldn't praise Richard Shaw highly enough. He must be worth a chance. If the club DO choose someone else i hope they keep him at the club.

skyblueman · Aug 29, 2012

Otis said:
But it wasn't just that was it. Been a number of posts on here about off the field altercations. Whatever has happened I don't know, but it seems there was something else going on too.

Fair point - would make a lot more sense of all of this - the timing I mean - if it were down to some other issues we are not party to - I could then understand why we was fired so early on in the new season after being given the go ahead to build a new squad

Otis · Aug 29, 2012

Would indeed explain a lot.

I think everyone found the timing strange.

Sick Boy · Aug 29, 2012

PVA said:
He wasn't sacked.

Are you sure?

http://www.newsatden.co.uk/4052-shaw-to-become-coventry-asssistant-following-millwall-sack.html

http://www.newsatden.co.uk/3961-millwall-chairman-berylson-confirms-departure-of-coach-shaw.html

PVA · Aug 29, 2012

Sick Boy said:
Are you sure?

http://www.newsatden.co.uk/4052-shaw-to-become-coventry-asssistant-following-millwall-sack.html

http://www.newsatden.co.uk/3961-millwall-chairman-berylson-confirms-departure-of-coach-shaw.html

Yes. Until you can show me a direct quote, I am sure.

craigSKYBLUE · Aug 29, 2012

skyblueman said:
My point is he was part of the set-up that did for Thorn - if Thorn was judged on that he had Shaw with him - ok we've had one good game - that's not enough top make a decision on Shaw -same as 4 games for AT wasn't enough - Shaw may well be brilliant but we would need to see a dozen games before we could make a call on him as permanent replacement - SISU haven't got the patience for that - that much is now obvious

I think Andy thorn was stubborn.don't think he'd of taken much off Shaw or carsley anyway

Astute · Aug 29, 2012

A lot of assistants lose their job when another manager comes in as they want their own backroom staff in. Was this the case?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Aug 29, 2012

stupot07 said:
I forgot we're only allowed to have the 'Wise' bandwagon

Careful or you might be accused of being a Shaw lover

Sick Boy · Aug 29, 2012

PVA said:
Yes. Until you can show me a direct quote, I am sure.

Fair enough, believe what you want.

I know quite a few Millwall lads, they told me at the time something went on between him and KJ and he was sacked.

Otis · Aug 29, 2012

Careful or you might be accused of being a Shaw lover

Would be a Shaw Shagger.

Those opposed would be the Anti-Dreadlock Brigade.

If you're pro Carsley you're a Baldist.

craigSKYBLUE · Aug 29, 2012

Otis said:
Would be a Shaw Shagger.

Those opposed would be the Anti-dreadlock Brigade.

If you're pro Carsley you're a Baldist.

Made me laugh

stupot07 · Aug 29, 2012

Otis said:
Careful or you might be accused of being a Shaw lover

Would be a Shaw Shagger.

Those opposed would be the Anti-Dreadlock Brigade.

If you're pro Carsley you're a Baldist.

Anti Carsley = hirsute?

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