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Match Thread Huddersfield (H) Mon 25/09 (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 20, 2023
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Macca

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #106
I jumped ship to HMS Shitthebed. 0-2
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #107
Boicey said:
Probably just play Sakamoto as a winger and use Eccles in the 4. Or Dasila on the left, Sakamoto on the right and Bidwell cover as left back.
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Sorry but not having a dig at you but as long as I have hole in my botty I’m not having Sakamoto is a winger or a wing back one bit. He doesn’t have the attributes to play wing back… can’t defend and hasn’t the pace. He’s a player that sits in the hole or plays as a second forward sitting deep.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #108
CCFC54321 said:
Sorry but not having a dig at you but as long as I have hole in my botty I’m not having Sakamoto is a winger or a wing back one bit. He doesn’t have the attributes to play wing back… can’t defend and hasn’t the pace. He’s a player that sits in the hole or plays as a second forward sitting deep.
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He's said himself that he's a winger who is mainly good at attacking
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #109
CCFC54321 said:
Sorry but not having a dig at you but as long as I have hole in my botty I’m not having Sakamoto is a winger or a wing back one bit. He doesn’t have the attributes to play wing back… can’t defend and hasn’t the pace. He’s a player that sits in the hole or plays as a second forward sitting deep.
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I assume it’s healed over then …. He can clearly play as a winger. Are you new to the sport ?
 

Hutch11

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #110
CCFC54321 said:
Sorry but not having a dig at you but as long as I have hole in my botty I’m not having Sakamoto is a winger or a wing back one bit. He doesn’t have the attributes to play wing back… can’t defend and hasn’t the pace. He’s a player that sits in the hole or plays as a second forward sitting deep.
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He is a winger , he can't defend but he is the epitome of a winger
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #111
Deity said:
I assume it’s healed over then …. He can clearly play as a winger. Are you new to the sport ?
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He’s not a winger at all.
 

skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #112
CCFC54321 said:
Sorry but not having a dig at you but as long as I have hole in my botty I’m not having Sakamoto is a winger or a wing back one bit. He doesn’t have the attributes to play wing back… can’t defend and hasn’t the pace. He’s a player that sits in the hole or plays as a second forward sitting deep.
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Sakamoto hasn’t got pace?

He’s the most obvious winger I’ve ever seen, plays all his best stuff with his back to the touchline
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #113
Deity said:
I assume it’s healed over then …. He can clearly play as a winger. Are you new to the sport ?
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Obviously your new to the game?
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #114
skybluecam said:
Sakamoto hasn’t got pace?

He’s the most obvious winger I’ve ever seen, plays all his best stuff with his back to the touchline
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Really? You really believe he has real pace?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #115
CCFC54321 said:
Obviously you’re new to the game?
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This is where he played last season for the club we signed him from…

 

Hutch11

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #116
Is ccfc54321 boosh?
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #117
Hutch11 said:
Is ccfc54321 boosh?
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Behave
 

Perryccfc

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #118
We’ve seen before with Robins when we have a troubled start he tends to shut up shop and take a few 0-0’s to set foundations, I fully expect this to be the case over the coming matches after the last couple. Expect a cagey 0-0 or perhaps pinch it 1-0 but a boring, ugly match.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #119
And in Japan just so we know there’s no conspiracy theory happening here…

 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #120
Perryccfc said:
We’ve seen before with Robins when we have a troubled start he tends to shut up shop and take a few 0-0’s to set foundations, I fully expect this to be the case over the coming matches after the last couple. Expect a cagey 0-0 or perhaps pinch it 1-0 but a boring, ugly match.
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Oggy just made a good point on cwr about Latibeaudiere playing wing back and Thomas in the right of a back three.
 

skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #121
CCFC54321 said:
Really? You really believe he has real pace?
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He's certainly got the acceleration to go past a man.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #122
SlowerThanPlatt said:
And in Japan just so we know there’s no conspiracy theory happening here…

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And not to beat a dead horse, but if you look at van Ewijks positions on transfermarkt for this season it has him playing RM for us, because that’s what it counts a wingback as.
 
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Hincha

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #123
Most teams are moving away from 5 at the back and all the top teams are using the WM formation so don’t see why we can’t also (the box was introduced soon after Conte’s Chelsea won the league at a cantar with it)

I would like to see:

GK: Collins
RB: Lati
CB: Thomas
CB: Binks
LB: Da Silva
CDM: Kelly
CM: Ayari
CM: Allen
RW: Saka
ST: Godden
LW: Wright

Da Silva to invert making it a back 3 in possession.
Allows Kelly to sit and pass simply and allow the other two CM’s & Da Silva to force the issue.
Saka to stay wide and whip crosses in & Wright to use the space the run at FBs.
Can change to a deep 4-4-2 defensive shape (Ayari to move to the left & Wright to move inside ready to use his pace on the counter)

What we will get:

GK: Wilson
RWB: Lati
CB: Thomas
CB: Fadz
CB: Binks
LWB: Da Silva
CM: Eccles
CM: Kelly
CAM: Palmer
ST: Godden
ST: Wright
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #124
CCFC54321 said:
Really? You really believe he has real pace?
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If you can stomach it, watch the Tuesday game again 2nd half. We give it away from a corner, get countered and he makes up about 40 yards to cut it out.
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #125


2-1 to City, we really could do with a win now
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #126
Blind-Faith said:
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2-1 to City, we really could do with a win now
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Is the bottom part of that image an instruction to Wright?
 
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Hutch11

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #127
You can't play Saka as a wing back, the lad cannot defend
Play him wide up front and he'll destroy them
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #128
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If you can stomach it, watch the Tuesday game again 2nd half. We give it away from a corner, get countered and he makes up about 40 yards to cut it out.
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And then was slow to react to the second goal.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #129
Hutch11 said:
You can't play Saka as a wing back, the lad cannot defend
Play him wide up front and he'll destroy them
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Thank goodness some sense.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #130
CCFC54321 said:
And then was slow to react to the second goal.
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Because he isn't a defender. You might as well play Callum O'Hare at wing back then get annoyed when the same happens
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #131
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because he isn't a defender. You might as well play Callum O'Hare at wing back then get annoyed when the same happens
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I’m confused are we agreeing or disagreeing here?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #132
CCFC54321 said:
I’m confused are we agreeing or disagreeing here?
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Well your point was about whether he has pace or not so I gave a case of where he showed lots of it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #133
If being responsible for conceding against Cardiff means you're not a defender then we need to replace 1 or 2 more Monday
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #134
clint van damme said:
If being responsible for conceding against Cardiff means you're not a defender then we need to replace 1 or 2 more Monday
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I would say that not being a defender means you're not a defender!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #135
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Now with no recognised RWB I think going to 4 at the back just became a serious option.
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So who's the RB? We've got more people who at a push can play RWB than RB.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #136
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
So who's the RB? We've got more people who at a push can play RWB than RB.
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I'd think a full back is a more defence minded role anyway so you could still play Lati there.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #137
Not sure you can blame Sakamoto too much for the 2nd against Cardiff. If your wing back is back in the box competing for a cross something’s gone wrong with the system.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 22, 2023
  • #138
skybluecam said:
Not sure you can blame Sakamoto too much for the 2nd against Cardiff. If your wing back is back in the box competing for a cross something’s gone wrong with the system.
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He's meant to be marking their left sided attacker and anyway even if you argue that he still has no idea where the man who becomes his man is and he completely misses what is a simple and basic run off the ball.

The RWB needs to be able to defend the area beyond and at the far post when the ball is crossed from the opposite side. It was a basic personal error that showed a lack of defensive ability.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #139
David O'Day said:
He's meant to be marking their left sided attacker and anyway even if you argue that he still has no idea where the man who becomes his man is and he completely misses what is a simple and basic run off the ball.

The RWB needs to be able to defend the area beyond and at the far post when the ball is crossed from the opposite side. It was a basic personal error that showed a lack of defensive ability.
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Agreed. Wing backs are a combination of defensive and attack. If you can’t defend then your no wing back!
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #140
Honestly feel Robins has to ditch the wing back setup its not working

Footballs evolving away from it also

For me with the players we've got i think we need a kindof 4 2 3 1

GKWilson
RB Latibeaudiere
CB Thomas
CB Kitching
LB DaSilva
CDM Kelly
CM Allen
CAM Ayari
CAM Tats
CAM Palmer
ST Godden
 
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