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How is Aled Williams employed? (1 Viewer)

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SBT

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  • Feb 27, 2025
  • #176
Calista said:
I'm not sure Collins 'deteriorated' - I never really got why people on here seemed to rank him above Wilson in the first place.
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Probably the 20 or so games he played last season before his form fell off. He looked miles better than Wilson.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #177
Bump




The one constant in all keepers we have had in regressing is him
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #178
Saddlebrains said:
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The one constant in all keepers we have had in regressing is him
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He can’t make a goalkeeper whose come from the premier league deteriorate. Coaches really have very little impact on actual ability - the player has it if he doesn’t
 
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covboy9

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #179
Good question
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #180
Grendel said:
He can’t make a goalkeeper whose come from the premier league deteriorate. Coaches really have very little impact on actual ability - the player has it if he doesn’t
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Yep exactly. I’d say a goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to “coach ability” out of if at all
 
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Para1140

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #181
Grendel said:
He can’t make a goalkeeper whose come from the premier league deteriorate. Coaches really have very little impact on actual ability - the player has it if he doesn’t
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Well he certainly hasnt improved them
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #182
we have so many morons in our fanbase

not like “oh a bit silly sometimes”, more like genuinely fucking dumb
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #183
Para1140 said:
Well he certainly hasnt improved them
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Rushworth has been here for roughly a month
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #184
If he’s in charge of our defensive training overall, that’s the bigger issue. We conceded a huge number of goals last season and we’re back into old habits.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #185
To be fair does he get no credit for Dovins improvement last season?
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #186
SBT said:
Rushworth has been here for roughly a month
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But he was signed (apparently) with the confidence that he would be hitting the ground as an improvement on Collins and Wilson.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #187
I know it’s just one game this season that we’ve looked particularly shit for but we really do have a big issue of consistency. Every season we put in a few proper stinkers and they’re often in very basic games. How do we go from winning 7-1 to drawing 2-2 with a team like Oxford?

I can’t help but feel it’s not just the players causing it, there must be something about the way we set up or coach players that’s surely leading to this. It really can’t be denied that goalkeeping has been a massive weak point for us over several seasons, can’t forever go on pretending it’s all been rosy on the goalkeeper coaching front.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #188
oscillatewildly said:
But he was signed (apparently) with the confidence that he would be hitting the ground as an improvement on Collins and Wilson.
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He’s been fine. The constant moaning about keepers (and blaming the GK coach for them not being magically good) is tedious at best but this is just odd. We’re four games in and unbeaten.
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #189
SBT said:
He’s been fine. The constant moaning about keepers (and blaming the GK coach for them not being magically good) is tedious at best but this is just odd. We’re four games in and unbeaten.
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We're down 1 point off the same 4 fixtures from last season.
 
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covboy9

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #190
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep exactly. I’d say a goalkeeper is probably the hardest position to “coach ability” out of if at all
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I disagree, you could see ogrizovic in Kirkland at times
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #191
covboy9 said:
I disagree, you could see ogrizovic in Kirkland at times
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Oo er
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #192
Don’t really get the criticism.

He can’t control poor in game decision making or made a players inherent ability worse.

Basic mistakes are on individual players.

Albeit those stupid 3/4 trousers he wears are tragic tbf.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #193
SBT said:
He’s been fine. The constant moaning about keepers (and blaming the GK coach for them not being magically good) is tedious at best but this is just odd. We’re four games in and unbeaten.
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Only because we’ve scored an unbelievable amount of goals to counter the large amount we’ve conceded!
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #194
It's not Williams making the mistakes on the pitch. That's a concentration issue. The other confounding point is that Dovin improved last season from the start.
 
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peteCCFC

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  • Aug 30, 2025
  • #195
Saddlebrains said:
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The one constant in all keepers we have had in regressing is him
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Not like you to be stiring up shit, moaning and being disruptive. Needy jester...
 
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Para1140

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #196
Eight goals conceded all from set pieces where the defence have time to set up to defend them.
defending set pieces the organising of the defence comes down to the keeper and coaching staff.
you saw a classic example yesterday with Rushworth setting up his wall and he Knew exactly where their player was going to try and put the free kick for their second and whether the ball was moved or not Rushworth failed to organise the wall correctly and still let the goal in at the post exactly where he expected it to go
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #197
fernandopartridge said:
It's not Williams making the mistakes on the pitch. That's a concentration issue. The other confounding point is that Dovin improved last season from the start.
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We don’t know that Dovin improved as a keeper. We know he started off very nervously and got better as his confidence grew. Whether he was better than when we bought him we can’t judge.
 
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GC1976

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #198
The goalkeeping position hasn't been competitive enough for number of years, I see average keepers at the club and when a new man between the sticks arrives he's looking around and thinking “not much to worry about here” his standards therefore drop. Would like to see an old pro in his mid 30s in goal showing the rest how it should be done Never mind a new coach.
 

Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #199
Para1140 said:
Eight goals conceded all from set pieces where the defence have time to set up to defend them.
defending set pieces the organising of the defence comes down to the keeper and coaching staff.
you saw a classic example yesterday with Rushworth setting up his wall and he Knew exactly where their player was going to try and put the free kick for their second and whether the ball was moved or not Rushworth failed to organise the wall correctly and still let the goal in at the post exactly where he expected it to go
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That makes no sense at all. He (correctly) thought he'd covered off that route to goal, but the sneaky ball repositioning did for him.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #200
GC1976 said:
The goalkeeping position hasn't been competitive enough for number of years, I see average keepers at the club and when a new man between the sticks arrives he's looking around and thinking “not much to worry about here” his standards therefore drop. Would like to see an old pro in his mid 30s in goal showing the rest how it should be done Never mind a new coach.
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Fuck me such a simplistic view of football. Wilson is in his mid 30's just stick him back in.
 
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hopesprings

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #201
Calista said:
That makes no sense at all. He (correctly) thought he'd covered off that route to goal, but the sneaky ball repositioning did for him.
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The fact that not one City player was watching the ball being moved or if they did were not prepared to scream at the ref....even march towards the ball pointing as most players I ever played with would have done is the most damning fact. I would actually in this day and age have thought there would be at least 1 player nominated at every wall to be doing just that !! Fine details but coaches should be doing this week in week out
 
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Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #202
hopesprings said:
The fact that not one City player was watching the ball being moved or if they did were not prepared to scream at the ref....even march towards the ball pointing as most players I ever played with would have done is the most damning fact. I would actually in this day and age have thought there would be at least 1 player nominated at every wall to be doing just that !! Fine details but coaches should be doing this week in week out
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Or take a collective step a foot to the left to counter what he did (keeper would need to know about it too!).
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #203
Have you seen the replay of the Stoke keeper making a mess of saves? Every keeper has flaws, that’s why they’re not top Prem players.

edit :- and Zetterstrom for Derby
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #204
The idea that the GK coach cannot be improved on and we are with the best we can get because they dont do much is absolutely baffling to me

We are his first senior professional club role btw as a coach
 
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Hobo

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #205
Aled Williams is a UEFA A coach and a UEFA A goalkeeping coach. Which I suspect is more qualified than practically everyone on this forum.

I doubt his critics know anything about coaching and have probably never seen him take a training session. I suspect their disrespect of him is because he wasn't a professional player. But he is a professional coach.

There are plenty of successful coaches and managers who didn't play at a very high level. Just as there are loads of highly skilled footballers who played at the highest level who turned out to be terrible coaches and managers.

Some of the evidence being put forward as to why he is a terrible coach is hilarious.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #206
Evo1883 said:
The idea that the GK coach cannot be improved on and we are with the best we can get because they dont do much is absolutely baffling to me
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Has anyone actually said this?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #207
Hobo said:
Aled Williams is a UEFA A coach and a UEFA A goalkeeping coach. Which I suspect is more qualified than practically everyone on this forum.

I doubt his critics know anything about coaching and have probably never seen him take a training session. I suspect their disrespect of him is because he wasn't a professional player. But he is a professional coach.

There are plenty of successful coaches and managers who didn't play at a very high level. Just as there are loads of highly skilled footballers who played at the highest level who turned out to be terrible coaches and managers.

Some of the evidence being put forward as to why he is a terrible coach is hilarious.
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Likewise having a coaching qualification doesnt mean you're a good coach ?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #208
SBT said:
Has anyone actually said this?
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Well weve had a couple of people suggest they do very little to improve GK ability , which again is a baffling thing to say
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #209
Evo1883 said:
Likewise having a coaching qualification doesnt mean you're a good coach ?
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Probably still better than a critic without any training or qualifications in coaching though.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #210
Hobo said:
Probably still better than a critic without any training or qualifications in coaching though.
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Well then why does a fan have an opinion on absolutely anything at all ?
 
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