Hobo
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At the end of the day, we have eleven players on the pitch that can make it a different game. Fans over focus on one the ref. Yes like players they make mistakes but not as many as fans from either side think.
At the end of the day, if the referee had shown any consistency, they should have been down to 10, then it's a different ball game
They don't have to make many, but it's the impact, if Eccles hadn't have been booked, then no complaints, but he was and so should have been HirstAt the end of the day, we have eleven players on the pitch that can make it a different game. Fans over focus on one the ref. Yes like players they make mistakes but not as many as fans from either side think.
They don't have to make many, but it's the impact, if Eccles hadn't have been booked, then no complaints, but he was and so should have been Hirst
Well obviously it does, who knows what Would have happened, he could have given him a second yellow and Ipswich may have won 5-0, but at least the referee would have been consistent in his decision makingI'm not disagreeing with that. But it doesn't necessarily impact on the result. Fans cling on to this notion the end result would always be different is untested .
And because Eccles had been booked he couldn't put a tackle in to block the ball from being threaded through! It's a minefield of what ifsThey don't have to make many, but it's the impact, if Eccles hadn't have been booked, then no complaints, but he was and so should have been Hirst
Them being down to 10 doesn't impact the result?I'm not disagreeing with that. But it doesn't necessarily impact on the result. Fans cling on to this notion the end result would always be different is untested .
It's a bit of a strange take, isn't it? Would Ipswich still have gone on to win 3-0 with ten men for about an hour of the game?Them being down to 10 doesn't impact the result?
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What is your judgement based on. Your view or the refs. Because it comes down to what the ref sees.
Let's face it VAR despite countless replays from different angles still only muddies the waters.
So why not grow a pair and get on with the game. Because that is how football has been played most of my life. The history of football is built on mistakes by player's, manager's and referees.
Why fuel Talksport with a week's worth of analytical bollocks that changes nothing.
At the end of the day, we have eleven players on the pitch that can make it a different game. Fans over focus on one the ref. Yes like players they make mistakes but not as many as fans from either side think.
As Oggy said, if he doesn’t give Eccles a yellow, there’s not much to moan about. He did, which makes it look shambolic when he doesn’t call the second incident.Eccles was booked for shanking a shot over after the whistle so yes Hirst should have been sent off by the parameters the referee had set.
We weren't poor first half. Why not blame the ref? He booked Eccles, then didn't book Hurst? Later booked another Ipswich player. They all did the same thing, he bottled it. Even Ipswich fans are posting the same, in their forum.Pete we cant blame the ref for today , we were poor and comfortably beaten second half
It was a poor decision but ultimately we didnt get it and we just werent good enough
He kicked it away, after being called offside. He knew ,as well. Wasn't like he hadn't heard the whistleI had visitors around so not fully focussed. Are we saying Hurst should have been off for dragging shot wide after he was whistle offside? Or did he blatantly kick ball away another time?
We had control of game for well over 30 minutes and should have been at least one up.We were ok 1st half , but better than them yes .. we werent good though
Games 90We had control of game for well over 30 minutes and should have been at least one up.
Neither were bookings imo. But once he's given the Eccles one, he has no choice but to give the Hirst one. Simply no other choice really! Spineless c**tBoth were bookings.
He bottled itNeither were bookings imo. But once he's given the Eccles one, he has no choice but to give the Hirst one. Simply no other choice really! Spineless c**t
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Consistency is king I think often hard because things happen that are slightly differentI will also point out that their centre mid committed 4 fouls inside the first 15-30 minutes the last one a certain yellow on Eccles when he got nowhere near the ball. 5-10 minutes later Grimes slid in, got the ball and was booked for his first real challenge of any note.
We then had our 2 midfielders on bookings for the rest of the match. That has an impact on how we play.
On top of the non booking for their midfielder, Hirst, their keepers deliberate hamdball, etc etc.
It wasnt just one bad decision we got. He was at it all game and affected our game and game plan and ultimately the result was influenced by him in a number of ways.
I agree.Always been a much higher threshold for a second yellow which to me has never made sense
Different game if he hadn't booked Eccles who could not tackle the player heading toward the area prior to their first goal!!!!!Different game with them on 10 players with us - remember it was nil nil at the time
At the time I thought nothing of it. Thought he had misjudged where the line was.I didn’t see the incident itself in truth, all I heard was the Mrs saying the “keepers handled it outside the box” but when I’ve got in, I’ve only seen Eccles setting up a free kick on the left hand side.
Frustrating if it was a clear an obvious scoring chance that the keeper prevented, but given it’s not been mentioned to Frank during the post match presser suggests that maybe City or CWR at the least, they don’t see that as a big contentious moment.
Thought he had been demoted from the Prem?Nah the big headed c**t never has to justify or explain any decision so will continue to be fucking incompetent until he retires
Would be another firm step towards the dull Americanisation of football, where getting to analyse controversial decisions ad nauseam in TV studios is far more important than preserving the flow of the game.predict that in a few seasons managers will have the ability to call “time out and review” a couple of key incidents per match. Review successful - keep your review. Unsuccessful - one less left, like Test cricket.
Seen a lot of Ipswich fans say Hirst didn't hear the whistle due to crowd noise
Same could apply to Eccles then
The only possible explanation is that Eccles was booked for dissent and not delaying the restartWhat crowd noise? Didn’t he stop then kick the ball?
He heard the whistle
The only possible explanation is that Eccles was booked for dissent and not delaying the restart
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