What have they actually done to be treated as heroes? They've been involved in this regime and the previous ones (Elliott definitely) and when you compare PO to Hoffman and Elliott to Clarke, it is a lot more hostile towards Clarke? Why? All Cov fans, all been involved in the club, whilst it was/is failing.
Someone help me out here.
In truth mate GH & JE probably didn't realise what a stupid mistake they were making at the time when SISU came in and no one could have predicted that. With that being said GH & JE have tried extensively to bring in new investors after they realised what mess SISU was getting us into and I appreciate that they are trying their best and they have found someone who is now willing to invest, I just hope there trust in judgement is better this time round then it was before.
I'm going to guess Clarke did similar things, why is the PO negative towards him.
If that's the case, isn't Elliott directly accountable for bringing SISU in, and therefore, the mess we're in? If so, why is he a hero for: being a part of the Richardson regime, the McGinnity regime, bringing in SISU and being part of the SISU regime? All such terrible owners.
I don't hold a vendetta against any of Hoffmann nor Elliott, but it bugs me that people go on as if they've done good, but what have they done? So far, I've got nothing, apart from build fans' hope up and being a part of 2-3 failed regimes.
I'm going to guess Clarke did similar things, why is the PO negative towards him.
If that's the case, isn't Elliott directly accountable for bringing SISU in, and therefore, the mess we're in? If so, why is he a hero for: being a part of the Richardson regime, the McGinnity regime, bringing in SISU and being part of the SISU regime? All such terrible owners.
I don't hold a vendetta against any of Hoffmann nor Elliott, but it bugs me that people go on as if they've done good, but what have they done? So far, I've got nothing, apart from build fans' hope up and being a part of 2-3 failed regimes.
I hate Joe Elliott because once you get that 'Elliotts, car accessories, Elliotts' jingle in your head, that's in there for the day.
Aside from a) Offer hope of an alternative to the second worst owners in our history and b) In Elliott's case, a lot of sponsorship etc that has been well documented on here this week, I'd flip the question: what have they done to be treated with cynicism? The obvious answer is to work with SISU, but if the worst you can come up with is naivety, I think they still deserve to be listened to this time. Given the choice between doing so, or accepting a future in SISU Hell.
Aside from a) Offer hope of an alternative to the second worst owners in our history and b) In Elliott's case, a lot of sponsorship etc that has been well documented on here this week, I'd flip the question: what have they done to be treated with cynicism? The obvious answer is to work with SISU, but if the worst you can come up with is naivety, I think they still deserve to be listened to this time. Given the choice between doing so, or accepting a future in SISU Hell.
There's also 'Aubrey Allen's our name, sausage and bacon our game'. Oh god, now there's going to be a local megamix in my head.
What have they actually done to be treated as heroes? They've been involved in this regime and the previous ones (Elliott definitely) and when you compare PO to Hoffman and Elliott to Clarke, it is a lot more hostile towards Clarke? Why? All Cov fans, all been involved in the club, whilst it was/is failing.
Someone help me out here.
There's also 'Aubrey Allen's our name, sausage and bacon our game'. Oh god, now there's going to be a local megamix in my head.
You got a "like" for the "second worst owners in our history". And for the rest too, of course.
You're guessing that Clarke did similar things? Really? Why? There is zero evidence to suggest that this is the case. I think you have your answer right there...
We don't know what goes on behind closed doors, as a result, I can only guess that Clarke would've looked for investors to take over/co-invest in the club, during SISU were here.
This may go some way of explaining my point.
http://www.football.co.uk/coventry_city/we_only_want_co-investment_-_clarke_rss1982042.shtml
Besides, no one has justified the positive PO Hoffman and Elliott get, I don't particularly dislike them, but when you see such positivity directed at them you think why? They were part and in Elliott's case, part of the people who brought SISU in, yet you hate SISU to that degree yet treat Elliott and Hoffman as heros?
I don't think Elliott does get hero status at all...he gets more abuse than most I reckon so I think your point isn't a valid one anyway. When his involvement in the possible takeover by PH4 became known there was a collective sigh from the majority on this board including me. Your post got me thinking more am I being unreasonable by being negative about his association. I don't think there's any doubt that he has always had the club's best interests at heart..he's just trusted the wrong people in the past.
My sentiments exactly. Like, utterly. Get out of my mind!!!! :wave:
Or you out of mine NLHWC!
That's just freaked me out even more, argggh!
We don't know what goes on behind closed doors, as a result, I can only guess that Clarke would've looked for investors to take over/co-invest in the club, during SISU were here.
This may go some way of explaining my point.
http://www.football.co.uk/coventry_city/we_only_want_co-investment_-_clarke_rss1982042.shtml
Besides, no one has justified the positive PO Hoffman and Elliott get, I don't particularly dislike them, but when you see such positivity directed at them you think why? They were part and in Elliott's case, part of the people who brought SISU in, yet you hate SISU to that degree yet treat Elliott and Hoffman as heros?
We don't know what goes on behind closed doors, as a result, I can only guess that Clarke would've looked for investors to take over/co-invest in the club, during SISU were here.
This may go some way of explaining my point.
http://www.football.co.uk/coventry_city/we_only_want_co-investment_-_clarke_rss1982042.shtml
Besides, no one has justified the positive PO Hoffman and Elliott get, I don't particularly dislike them, but when you see such positivity directed at them you think why? They were part and in Elliott's case, part of the people who brought SISU in, yet you hate SISU to that degree yet treat Elliott and Hoffman as heros?
Ok lets see Ive met both Elliott and Hoffman several times and anyone could have met them in Kenilworth last night have I ever met any of the SISU top brass er no. Do Elliott and Hoffman care about City in my opinion yes. Do SISU in my opinion they couldn't give a shit.
Have Elliott and Hoffman made mistakes in my opinion yes,however in my opinion only in trust. Have SISU made mistakes in purely business terms in my opinion no they knew exactly what they were doing hence the numerous companies that they created , the debt etc.
So why are Elliott and Hoffman treated by some as heroes? Because we (the some) have to believe that there is going to be a hero to get us out of this mess
Ok lets see Ive met both Elliott and Hoffman several times and anyone could have met them in Kenilworth last night have I ever met any of the SISU top brass er no. Do Elliott and Hoffman care about City in my opinion yes. Do SISU in my opinion they couldn't give a shit.
Have Elliott and Hoffman made mistakes in my opinion yes,however in my opinion only in trust. Have SISU made mistakes in purely business terms in my opinion no they knew exactly what they were doing hence the numerous companies that they created , the debt etc.
So why are Elliott and Hoffman treated by some as heroes? Because we (the some) have to believe that there is going to be a hero to get us out of this mess
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