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  • Start date Jan 13, 2021
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #106
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The German Shipley
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #107
cc84cov said:
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Jürgen Schippleheimer
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #108
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The German Shipley
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ßhipley
 
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Skybluemichael

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #109

Why Coventry loanee Marcel Hilssner is enjoying new role at Oldham

MARCEL Hilssner is enjoying the new position handed to him since his loan arrival at Latics from Coventry.
www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #110
Skybluemichael said:

Why Coventry loanee Marcel Hilssner is enjoying new role at Oldham

MARCEL Hilssner is enjoying the new position handed to him since his loan arrival at Latics from Coventry.
www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk
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Can you imagine playing him CDM at champ level ?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #111
cc84cov said:
Can you imagine playing him CDM at champ level ?
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Can't really comment until I've seen him play the position.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #112
mark82 said:
Can't really comment until I've seen him play the position.
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I think it would be a disaster more to the point who would he replace
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #113
cc84cov said:
I think it would be a disaster more to the point who would he replace
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Have you watched him play much for Oldham
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #114
Ccfcisparks said:
Have you watched him play much for Oldham
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I've seen a few goals they've conceded where they've strolled through the midfield. I think he might be OK on the ball but poor off it
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Feb 23, 2021
  • #115
Next season he's effectively a new player.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #116
cc84cov said:
I think it would be a disaster more to the point who would he replace
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Technically he's very good and he passes the ball well. He also works hard but he really can't tackle. He still might be a useful squad player.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #117
He is left footed and playing DM..... maybe we could drop him a bit further back?
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #118
skyblueelephant76 said:
Technically he's very good and he passes the ball well. He also works hard but he really can't tackle. He still might be a useful squad player.
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his body type is all wrong he hasn’t got the engine or positional awareness to play CDM at this level he’s certainly not replacing Kelly,James,Sheaf or Hamer either
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #119
Would be great if he could fit in as a left sided CM like Shipley does, but better.
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #120
shmmeee said:
Would be great if he could fit in as a left sided CM like Shipley does, but better.
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Remember reading that Hilssner was regarded as a speedster when coming through. How did that completely disappear in 5 years?

If he had any pace/fitness whatsoever he'd be a great option in the LCM spot.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #121
skyblue93 said:
Remember reading that Hilssner was regarded as a speedster when coming through. How did that completely disappear in 5 years?

If he had any pace/fitness whatsoever he'd be a great option in the LCM spot.
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Body shape changed with Age growth
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #122
cc84cov said:
Body shape changed with Age growth
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I know that problem
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #123
shmmeee said:
I know that problem
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SBT

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #124
We only have four defensive midfielders in the squad at the moment, so I'm sure Robins will be delighted we may have another one.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #125
I get the feeling he's only playing in a deeper role with them because of his lack of an engine, which does not bode well. I doubt we'll ever see him in a CCFC shirt.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #126
Sounds like he's doing alright but 'alright in League Two' doesn't scream Championship quality. Unless he properly tears in up from now until the end of the season I expect he'll be back in Germany by the end of the summer.
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #127
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Sounds like he's doing alright but 'alright in League Two' doesn't scream Championship quality. Unless he properly tears in up from now until the end of the season I expect he'll be back in Germany by the end of the summer.
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To be fair, and I know this is sad, I went onto the Oldham forum, and a lot have the view that he's nigh on undroppable rather than just alright. We all know the L2 standard isn't great (remember when Concrete Rod was temporarily loved on here?) but he seems to be standing out for them.
 

better days

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #128
Let's give the lad a chance
He's had a hard time one way and another since he arrived
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #129
I know some fans are desperate to pick holes in our recruitment but he wasn't some random impulse buy, we tracked him for at least a year & saw enough over that time to offer him a 3 year contract.
He's clearly got good technical ability but had major fitness issues since arriving.

Hopefully he can continue impressing at Oldham & come back like a new signing for next season. In terms of position, he said upon signing that he saw himself playing as a 10 or an 8 for us & I don't think that's unrealistic. He's played vast majority of minutes at Oldham with little adverse effects. The likes of Kelly, James & Sheaf aren't exactly the most mobile either.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #130
He was replaced on the hour last night for Oldham, and after 75 minutes against Tranmere.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #131
Frostie said:
I know some fans are desperate to pick holes in our recruitment but he wasn't some random impulse buy, we tracked him for at least a year & saw enough over that time to offer him a 3 year contract.
He's clearly got good technical ability but had major fitness issues since arriving.

Hopefully he can continue impressing at Oldham & come back like a new signing for next season. In terms of position, he said upon signing that he saw himself playing as a 10 or an 8 for us & I don't think that's unrealistic. He's played vast majority of minutes at Oldham with little adverse effects. The likes of Kelly, James & Sheaf aren't exactly the most mobile either.
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I'm happy to accept the recruitment, happy to accept he's a punt, to see if it works. I would be surprised if it did however. He seems to have a career of impressing at lower levels, but just struggling to make the step up. Now, obviously, it'd be nice for everyone (including him!) if he bucked that - I woudn't necessarily expect him to, though.

That doesn't mean it was wrong to bring him in though, even if he doesn't make it.
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #132
Well people on sites like these are quick to right players off as rubbish far to often. Give hillsner a chance who knows he might surprise people. Pusb
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 24, 2021
  • #133
Frostie said:
I know some fans are desperate to pick holes in our recruitment but he wasn't some random impulse buy, we tracked him for at least a year & saw enough over that time to offer him a 3 year contract.
He's clearly got good technical ability but had major fitness issues since arriving.

Hopefully he can continue impressing at Oldham & come back like a new signing for next season. In terms of position, he said upon signing that he saw himself playing as a 10 or an 8 for us & I don't think that's unrealistic. He's played vast majority of minutes at Oldham with little adverse effects. The likes of Kelly, James & Sheaf aren't exactly the most mobile either.
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I've watched him play 3-4 times for Oldham. He is nowhere near good enough or mobile enough to play 10 or 8 in the championship. Hes looked decent playing deeper, but just sits and is put under little pressure when he has possession so has more time on the ball. I'd forgotten how poor League Two was.

He will maybe comeback and compete for a defensive berth, but I havent seen anything to suggest he's anywhere near the standard of Kelly, James and Sheaf.

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DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Feb 25, 2021
  • #134
better days said:
Let's give the lad a chance
He's had a hard time one way and another since he arrived
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That is not the SBT way!!
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 25, 2021
  • #135
better days said:
Let's give the lad a chance
He's had a hard time one way and another since he arrived
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Why? I sympathise with him struggling, of course, but all the signs are he’s not good enough.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #136
Banged in their penalty today putting them on the way to a 3-1 win.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #137
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
That is not the SBT way!!
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Au contraire, there is any amount of defence for players who are clearly not mid table championship level. You suggest they are not up to snuff and people leap in. Hyam, McFadz (going forward - age), Shipley, both keepers, Pask, Dacosta (maybe), Max, Baka all are just not good enbough.

Thank heavens for loans.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #138
Hilsner has been a massive hit for them. Hopefully with a full pre season he will be a massive asset to us next season.
 
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hill83

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #139
fernandopartridge said:
I doubt we'll ever see him in a CCFC shirt
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #140
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Hilsner has been a massive hit for them. Hopefully with a full pre season he will be a massive asset to us next season.
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The gulf is on another planet I don’t see him being here next season
 
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