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Transfer Rumour Hayden Hackney (15 Viewers)

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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Today at 10:35 AM
  • #71
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
2bf that’s what Sunderland have done and built them around Xhaka
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Maybe we are building them around Matty Grimes, as he’s one of the most technically gifted players we’ve seen and reads the game well?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Today at 10:40 AM
  • #72
Whatever we do, I just don't want a few championship signings and a limp attempt at staying up.

It's a whole different conversation and we should enjoy this promotion first, but I do hope we have a genuine go at it next season. I get the feeling we will.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:41 AM
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torchomatic said:
Not sure how Markelo can be placed in the FAIL column just yet.
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I judge signings by whether they get on the pitch mostly.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Today at 10:42 AM
  • #74
shmmeee said:
Or Woolfenden, Esse, Yang, Markelo. More misses than hits since the first batch of signings really.
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Esse hasn't been outstanding but he has contributed, he gave us another option and got us through some difficult periods. Yes it would be lovely if every signing proved as good as Rudoni or Grimes but it doesn't mean anyone below that level is a miss. Woolf is similar although I did expect better from him. Possibly more a victim of Latis uptick in form rather than his own abilities.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Today at 10:42 AM
  • #75
Would anyone take Jobe Bellingham as a backup in midfield? I know he isnt anywhere near as good as the hype but at a young age he could develop into a good CM especially under Lampard
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Today at 10:43 AM
  • #76
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Whatever we do, I just don't want a few championship signings and a limp attempt at staying up.

It's a whole different conversation and we should enjoy this promotion first, but I do hope we have a genuine go at it next season. I get the feeling we will.
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Doug's already said we will and he's done everything else he promised hasn't he. Promotion Stadium Commercial

It's very much in his own interests for us to stay up and he's clearly not in the habit of losing money.
 
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sc1940

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  • Today at 10:48 AM
  • #77
shmmeee said:

How bad analytics built a Tottenham team that might get relegated

Tottenham are really bad and looking at the way this team has been constructed, one thing clearly stands out: This team is really bad at passing the ball, and that may explain their present malaise.
www.espn.com
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I hadn't see that article before but it typifies what some of us have been saying many times, it's not data that is wrong (e.g. xG) but it's how you use it.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 10:48 AM
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Whatever we do, I just don't want a few championship signings and a limp attempt at staying up.

It's a whole different conversation and we should enjoy this promotion first, but I do hope we have a genuine go at it next season. I get the feeling we will.
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If Hackney was our player, we’d all be saying he can make the step the up.

There’s definitely players we can sign from this league and Hackney would be one of those players if Boro don’t go up. As you say, it can’t be a wannabe Championship super team.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Today at 10:50 AM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
If Hackney was our player, we’d all be saying he can make the step the up.

There’s definitely players we can sign from this league and Hackney would be one of those players if Boro don’t go up. As you say, it can’t be a wannabe Championship super team.
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I think he could step up in just not sure he's the best value on attributes/cost.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 10:51 AM
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sc1940 said:
I hadn't see that article before but it typifies what some of us have been saying many times, it's not data that is wrong (e.g. xG) but it's how you use it.
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Garbage in, garbage out.

The Leicester team that won the Prem had a ‘data driven’ approach to building their team to be a great counter attacking team, they still had players like Drinkwater who can play.
 

DT-R

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  • Today at 10:54 AM
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Would anyone take Jobe Bellingham as a backup in midfield? I know he isnt anywhere near as good as the hype but at a young age he could develop into a good CM especially under Lampard
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Is this a wind up?

A) Hes not good enough. Hype way outweighs the talent.
B) Hes playing regular ish for Dortmund so theyre not about to just loan him out. And hes not lilely to want to leave.
C) He's just gone to Dortmund for £30m. So theyre not going to let him go for less than that! And if we're spending £35m+ on a player, hes got to be a damn sight better and more experienced than Jobe fucking Bellingham! And certainly not a "back up" as you suggest!

£35m+ to sit on the bench behind Rudoni!


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 10:57 AM
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sc1940 said:
I hadn't see that article before but it typifies what some of us have been saying many times, it's not data that is wrong (e.g. xG) but it's how you use it.
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Really interesting
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:14 AM
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
Esse hasn't been outstanding but he has contributed, he gave us another option and got us through some difficult periods. Yes it would be lovely if every signing proved as good as Rudoni or Grimes but it doesn't mean anyone below that level is a miss. Woolf is similar although I did expect better from him. Possibly more a victim of Latis uptick in form rather than his own abilities.
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Woolf has been in a side without a settled back line all season and failed to break through ahead of two other CBs who cost less to bring in.

Esse maybe but I’m not sure while he’s got reasonable time on the pitch he’s been pretty poor when there.

A miss for me is someone who doesn’t impact the pitch. And those players haven’t really. I like KKH a lot as a player when I’ve seen him but fact is he’s had little impact on the results of the club for his money.
 
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Nick

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  • Today at 11:15 AM
  • #84
We need to look for better then Hamer ffs
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 11:16 AM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
If Hackney was our player, we’d all be saying he can make the step the up.

There’s definitely players we can sign from this league and Hackney would be one of those players if Boro don’t go up. As you say, it can’t be a wannabe Championship super team.
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They'll all be daftly overpriced to PL clubs though, I suspect.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 11:20 AM
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shmmeee said:
A miss for me is someone who doesn’t impact the pitch. And those players haven’t really. I like KKH a lot as a player when I’ve seen him but fact is he’s had little impact on the results of the club for his money.
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I think KKH did his ankle preseason and again early doors. It'll have had a bigger impact than has been let on I think. Certainly Milan could have been given a lot more rest later in games and wasn't. Let's judge him next eason
 
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Mr.Chilled

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  • Today at 11:20 AM
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sc1940 said:
I hadn't see that article before but it typifies what some of us have been saying many times, it's not data that is wrong (e.g. xG) but it's how you use it.
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Brentford do it superbly. The amount of forwards they have had success from and made million in the process is very impressive.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:21 AM
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Speedie's Head said:
I think KKH did his ankle preseason and again early doors. It'll have had a bigger impact than has been let on I think. Certainly Milan could have been given a lot more rest later in games and wasn't. Let's judge him next eason
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yeah agreed and I’d keep him about for the Prem.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Today at 11:22 AM
  • #89
According to the mail(but would make sense anyway )the club are looking for athleticism in midfield .. not sure hackney fits the bill , hes the sort of player an established PL club would sign not one looking to build a new squad to stay up

Somebody like Everton
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 11:23 AM
  • #90
Do we call him sick note Hackney
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 11:32 AM
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Evo1883 said:
According to the mail(but would make sense anyway )the club are looking for athleticism in midfield .. not sure hackney fits the bill , hes the sort of player an established PL club would sign not one looking to build a new squad to stay up

Somebody like Everton
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It's all about the spine through the middle I think. This is where we need experience either PL or a top European league and that always costs good money. Onyeka's in already, obviously we need a keeper then a big CB to help Bobby make the step up and a striker. After that it's anyone's guess who they're looking at and what the budget will be but they wouldn't want to drop £20m on the likes of Hackney I don't think if that's not in place.
 
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Mr.Chilled

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  • Today at 11:33 AM
  • #92
20 million on Hackney or Harvey Elliott.....hhmmmmmm
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Today at 11:39 AM
  • #93
Mr.Chilled said:
20 million on Hackney or Harvey Elliott.....hhmmmmmm
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Im not spending that on either of them, Elliott has an attitude problem and we need Prem experience in the midfield so rules Hackney out even if you dont account for how would he fit into the style of play which I dont think he would
 
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Mr.Chilled

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  • Today at 11:55 AM
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Im not spending that on either of them, Elliott has an attitude problem and we need Prem experience in the midfield so rules Hackney out even if you dont account for how would he fit into the style of play which I dont think he would
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On what evidence does he have an 'attitude problem'?
 

Evo1883

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  • Today at 11:58 AM
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Mr.Chilled said:
On what evidence does he have an 'attitude problem'?
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Come on mate chill out
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 12:42 PM
  • #96
Nick said:
We need to look for better then Hamer ffs
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Hamer would be an awful signing, he can’t run. People need to move on it’s embarrassing
 

SBAndy

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  • Today at 12:51 PM
  • #97
I just wonder whether Aidan Morris is the smarter signing from the Boro midfield.
 

mark82

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  • Today at 12:53 PM
  • #98
shmmeee said:
Or Woolfenden, Esse, Yang, Markelo. More misses than hits since the first batch of signings really.
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But soon to be writing Markelo off.
 

shmmeee

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  • 54 minutes ago
  • #99
mark82 said:
But soon to be writing Markelo off.
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If he can’t get in a championship side he isn’t getting in a premier league side. Unless a year and a half will also be too soon?
 
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