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  • Start date Apr 3, 2015
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martcov

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  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #386
Nick said:
Who knows, who knows if a payment has been made. All we know is that there is an agreement and it is settled.

Maybe we need to wait for the next SCG meeting to find anything out in between Wasps PR assaults
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We have had references to Mount Everest, Arsenal being relegated and Now Wasps. Why don't you or Grendel just answer the question raised by the op.... What spurious lies did the CT tell?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #387
martcov said:
We have had references to Mount Everest, Arsenal being relegated and Now Wasps. Why don't you or Grendel just answer the question raised by the op.... What spurious lies did the CT tell?
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Doesn't the OP say bullshit? (I did a search for lies within the thread but couldn't see anything about spurious lies)
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #388
Nick said:
Where you were trying to be funny. Oh well, as long as you get lots of likes No doubt Mart and Tony will be along shortly to cyber wank you off.
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Not trying to be funny, because the point was he wasn't happy when the contract wasn't stuck to and he had to threaten legal action to get a settlement. I think you are the only Tosser round here, not Tony and Mart whoever they are?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #389
Nick said:
Doesn't the OP say bullshit? (I did a search for lies within the thread but couldn't see anything about spurious lies)
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I was trying to be polite. But look up bullshit - it refers to lies, untruths etc. then answer the question...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #390
Nick said:
Where you were trying to be funny. Oh well, as long as you get lots of likes No doubt Mart and Tony will be along shortly to cyber wank you off.
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Have you given Grendel the day off and have taken over from him on insulting people for no reason?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #391
martcov said:
I was trying to be polite. But look up bullshit - it refers to lies, untruths etc. then answer the question...
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nonsense, lies, or exaggeration.
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It was an exaggeration.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #392
martcov said:
We have had references to Mount Everest, Arsenal being relegated and Now Wasps. Why don't you or Grendel just answer the question raised by the op.... What spurious lies did the CT tell?
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I've never said lies. Why are you lying about that?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #393
Grendel said:
I've never said lies. Why are you lying about that?
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Perhaps you could explain what of the original article was false then?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #394
skybluetony176 said:
Perhaps you could explain what of the original article was false then?
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Where have I used the word false?

Are you the official spokes boy for astute and Martcov when they are not around?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #395
Grendel said:
Where have I used the word false?

Are you the official spokes boy for astute and Martcov when they are not around?
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Semantics. In your opening salvo you used the word 'spurious'.

Which, if you check with Google's online thesaurus gives the following:

spurious (adjective): 'not being what it purports to be; false or fake'
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #396
Grendel said:
Where have I used the word false?

Are you the official spokes boy for astute and Martcov when they are not around?
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What do you think spurious means?

I'm asking for myself. If astute or mart have any questions for you I'm sure they'll ask you themselves.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #397
skybluetony176 said:
What do you think spurious means?

I'm asking for myself. If astute or mart have any questions for you I'm sure they'll ask you themselves.
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No need to add to the thread. Most if not all have seen through the rubbish he has come out with and all we have to do now is leave him to dig a bigger hole.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #398
Astute said:
No need to add to the thread. Most if not all have seen through the rubbish he has come out with and all we have to do now is leave him to dig a bigger hole.
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By most I assume we mean the 4 or 5 of you.

Spurious is misleading, using facts to interpret a headline piece of data to achieve a desired outcome from its readership in the opinion they form.

Consider the conservative influenced Daily Mail. On Sunday it decided to report that a poll put the consituency candidate standing for the Tories ahead of Nigel Farage with some dramatic headline that denounced him and implied he was on the brink.

Close examination showed only 1 of four polls put the Tory ahead and that by 1 point with a statiscal margin for error of 4 points. Was the leading article a lie? No. Was it misleading - totally.

Interestingly most people assume bullshit is lying. Not so. The second most popular definition is foolish talk. Let's be honest you'd havd had to be foolish to have swallowed the bull shit in that article.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #399
ah another thread hijacked by childish insults.......
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #400
Covstu said:
ah another thread hijacked by childish insults.......
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Go away before I pull your hair!
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #401
Covstu said:
ah another thread hijacked by childish insults.......
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In my humble opinion, the thread was started with the primary ambition of goading folk into an argument over semantics and presenting the opportunity to Grendull to revert to type and start his usual tirade. As such; not so much hijacked as fulfilled
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #402
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
In my humble opinion, the thread was started with the primary ambition of goading folk into an argument over semantics and presenting the opportunity to Grendull to revert to type and start his usual tirade. As such; not so much hijacked as fulfilled
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No it was merely to point out the "threat" which most sensible people scoffed at on the original thread was sensationalist journalism.

The first post is hardly goading anyone. Those who swallowed it and were embarrassed by their gullibility (or in some cases a desire for it to be truthful) were the ones who starting hurling rocks about.

Much the same as you when I was also laughing at the Pressley off to Huddersfield nonsense.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #403
I have to say that with CTs' CCFC stories on many occasions the headline and actual content rarely match.
 
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Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #404
Grendel said:
No it was merely to point out the "threat" which most sensible people scoffed at on the original thread was sensationalist journalism.

The first post is hardly goading anyone. Those who swallowed it and were embarrassed by their gullibility (or in some cases a desire for it to be truthful) were the ones who starting hurling rocks about.

Much the same as you when I was also laughing at the Pressley off to Huddersfield nonsense.
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I refer you to the answer I gave two posts above. Shift. Move. Goad. Argue. Insult
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #405
Nick said:
Did the original news come from an SCG meeting?

Would it have appeared online if people weren't bitching on here?

It isn't really proven wrong, it was hidden away in the paper where nobody could see and then appeared days later online.
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So you believe they really care about few on here, who only believe what some prize winning journalist in a free paper writes.
Get real.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #406
letsallsingtogether said:
So you believe they really care about few on here, who only believe what some prize winning journalist in a free paper writes.
Get real.
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They care enough to come on here and post links / corrections.

Who believes everything anybody says?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #407
I think someone is obsessed with a certain Prize Winning Journalist.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #408
torchomatic said:
I think someone is obsessed with a certain Prize Winning Journalist.
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Yes correct you and your 2 mates.
Me personally I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
Then again maybe I would as I don't know what he looks like.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #409
Grendel said:
By most I assume we mean the 4 or 5 of you.

Spurious is misleading, using facts to interpret a headline piece of data to achieve a desired outcome from its readership in the opinion they form.Consider the conservative influenced Daily Mail. On Sunday it decided to report that a poll put the consituency candidate standing for the Tories ahead of Nigel Farage with some dramatic headline that denounced him and implied he was on the brink.

Close examination showed only 1 of four polls put the Tory ahead and that by 1 point with a statiscal margin for error of 4 points. Was the leading article a lie? No. Was it misleading - totally.

Interestingly most people assume bullshit is lying. Not so. The second most popular definition is foolish talk. Let's be honest you'd havd had to be foolish to have swallowed the bull shit in that article.
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How ironic that your misinterpreted meaning of the word spurious is itself spurious.

From the Cambridge online dictionary

Spurious (adjective)

False and not what it appears to be, or (of reasons and judgements) based on something that has not been correctly understood and therfore false.

If you're going to use big words in an attempt to look intelligent at least have the intelligence to look up the meaning of that word first.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #410
skybluetony176 said:
How ironic that your misinterpreted meaning of the word spurious is itself spurious.

From the Cambridge online dictionary

Spurious (adjective)

False and not what it appears to be, or (of reasons and judgements) based on something that has not been correctly understood and therfore false.

If you're going to use big words in an attempt to look intelligent at least have the intelligence to look up the meaning of that word first.
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The most humorous part of your post is that it is a big word.

I said it means misleading.

Let's look at some of the synonyms used for misleading shall we?

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/misleading

Tony having a nightmare of SBK proportions
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #411
Grendel said:
The most humorous part of your post is that it is a big word.

I said it means misleading.

Let's look at some of the synonyms used for misleading shall we?

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/misleading

Tony having a nightmare of SBK proportions
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Indeed. The second synonym on the list is "false". Which brings me back to my original question. What part of the article was false?

Spurious may well be a synonym for the word misleading but you used the word spurious in your OP not misleading. The meaning of the word "misleading" is tending to confuse or mislead, deceptive. As per your link.

You were clearly confused by the article and that mislead you to misuse the word spurious. Unless of course you think the article was deceptive in which case I'll ask you again, what part of the article is false.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #412
skybluetony176 said:
Indeed. The second synonym on the list is "false". Which brings me back to my original question. What part of the article was false?

Spurious may well be a synonym for the word misleading but you used the word spurious in your OP not misleading. The meaning of the word "misleading" is tending to confuse or mislead, deceptive. As per your link.

You were clearly confused by the article and that mislead you to misuse the worth spurious. Unless of course you think the article was deceptive in which case I'll ask you again, what part of the article is false.
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So you are saying if someone wanted to use an alternate word to misleading and used an on line Thesaurus then spurious is not an alternative?

Are you sure?

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/misleading?showCookiePolicy=true
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #413
Grendel said:
So you are saying if someone wanted to use an alternate word to misleading and used an on line Thesaurus then spurious is not an alternative?

Are you sure?

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/misleading?showCookiePolicy=true
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Even I'm getting embarrassed for you now.

Were you off school the day they taught you how to use a thesaurus? Of course you can use spurious as an alternative to misleading but what you're supposed to do next is look up in a dictionary the synonym for it's exact meaning so you don't use that word out of context unless of course you're intellectual enough to already understand the exact meaning. Which clearly you're not.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #414
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #415
skybluetony176 said:
Even I'm getting embarrassed for you now.

Were you off school the day they taught you how to use a thesaurus? Of course you can use spurious as an alternative to misleading but what you're supposed to do next is look up in a dictionary the synonym for it's exact meaning so you don't use that word out of context unless of course you're intellectual enough to already understand the exact meaning. Which clearly you're not.
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So what you are saying is a forged picture, say of a Constable, is a spurious work of art because it is a forgery?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #416
Grendel said:
So what you are saying is a forged picture, say of a Constable, is a spurious work of art because it is a forgery?
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ointlaugh: Thanks Grendull. That really cheered me up.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #417
skybluetony176 said:
ointlaugh: Thanks Grendull. That really cheered me up.
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Why has it cheered you up?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #418
I've just re-read your opening post and I understand now. It was a letter of complaint about an advert for trick cow shit that flashes up online when you read the SP article. Spurious Bullshit (false cowpat) it was so obvious. Boy do I feel silly.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #419
skybluetony176 said:
I've just re-read your opening post and I understand now. It was a letter of complaint about an advert for trick cow shit that flashes up online when you read the SP article. Spurious Bullshit (false cowpat) it was so obvious. Boy do I feel silly.
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You should feel silly - that wouldn't even make it onto Bobby Davro's warm up man's script.

It is a shame you did not answer the question as I knew what you would say. The problem is that you are confusing the term with the physical item. I suggest the likes of you, Astute and Martcov read the link regarding spurious data. Remember the headline is not false -- it is, however totally spurious due to a third variable conveniently overlooked.

This is the same with the article in question (before this childish attempt at diversion by you). The item is not false but the spurious element is that the process taken is not uncommon but never leads to the outcome the headline suggests.

Today's claim of 50% turnover is highly spurious as it does not even refer to the benchmark it is based on. Is it the last 4 months versus the prior 4 months? Given that there was a big pre-booked event over Easter then the suggestion this is a success would be highly spurious -- but not false.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27537142
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • Apr 9, 2015
  • #420
Grendel said:
The item is not false but the spurious element is that the process taken is not uncommon but never leads to the outcome the headline suggests.
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The headline once more:

Coventry City: Steven Pressley in legal threat over payout after his sacking
 
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