HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Don’t apologise. You and Mark became more credible within 3 months than the trust have been for years
Don’t apologise. You and Mark became more credible within 3 months than the trust have been for yearsFor sure - sorry
They are the ones recognised by the FSF are they not?
Ah, I see what you mean. Any supporter group can register with FSF I believe.
It can become self perpetuating though. Never forget a person at my church who thought she was a prophet. She would say the most outrageous things and claim it was god. Proof would be in how much people didn’t like her. MmmmmEach club only has one supporters trust recognised by Supporters Direct (now Football Supporters Association). With the recognition comes support networks and doors opened around fan representation and ultimately ownership
The set up and point of them is generally to try and get some level of fan ownership after a financial crisis at the club. The sort we went through before Sisu came in (when I believe the Trust was originally set up), and the sort we went through when Seppala was threatening to wind the club up if her demands weren’t met (when it was resurrected).
As it did last time the club wasn’t in existential crisis, I’d expect it to wither on the vine until it’s back in existential crisis (hopefully never).
As for the rather sad trolling attempts, all I’ll say if more than one person is involved with the Trust and almost all have identical experiences dealing with the club.
I’ll also treat insults thrown around by people who have been too scared to get off the sidelines with all the respect they deserve.
It can become self perpetuating though. Never forget a person at my church who thought she was a prophet. She would say the most outrageous things and claim it was god. Proof would be in how much people didn’t like her. Mmmmm
Each club only has one supporters trust recognised by Supporters Direct (now Football Supporters Association). With the recognition comes support networks and doors opened around fan representation and ultimately ownership
The set up and point of them is generally to try and get some level of fan ownership after a financial crisis at the club. The sort we went through before Sisu came in (when I believe the Trust was originally set up), and the sort we went through when Seppala was threatening to wind the club up if her demands weren’t met (when it was resurrected).
As it did last time the club wasn’t in existential crisis, I’d expect it to wither on the vine until it’s back in existential crisis (hopefully never).
As for the rather sad trolling attempts, all I’ll say if more than one person is involved with the Trust and almost all have identical experiences dealing with the club.
I’ll also treat insults thrown around by people who have been too scared to get off the sidelines with all the respect they deserve.
I wouldn't put Dave Eyles and Lionel Bird in the same brackets at all.Sadly not mate, he's been involved for years now & chairman for a lot of it.
Whilst the likes of him & Lionel Bird are involved they'll never change & have burned their bridges with the club.
I remember trying to google the new appointments on the board and couldn't find any indication that they posted about CCFC on social media or anything like that. Obviously not conclusive but you'd expect people who are bothered enough about the club to join the board of the trust to have some kind of digital footprint relating to the team they support.I thought they hired some people from job websites who had probably never even seen us play?
tbf, you'd only find me posting under unfunny pseudonyms.I remember trying to google the new appointments on the board and couldn't find any indication that they posted about CCFC on social media or anything like that. Obviously not conclusive but you'd expect people who are bothered enough about the club to join the board of the trust to have some kind of digital footprint relating to the team they support.
What's yours on here then NW?tbf, you'd only find me posting under unfunny pseudonyms.
What Pete didn’t see from the trust people was the lengths they went to shut down the debate and the dissenting voices.
Myself and Grendel have had massive attacks on our personal lives by these people because we disagreed, dared to push back and challenge them.
In my case going so far as finding out where I worked and trying to get me sacked-just for the crime of supporting my club.
Maybe if Pete and Mark knew about the things going on behind the scenes they’d be in a better place to make informed opinions on folks.
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I wouldn't put Dave Eyles and Lionel Bird in the same brackets at all.
Makes me sad. I’m sorry bothWhat Pete didn’t see from the trust people was the lengths they went to shut down the debate and the dissenting voices.
Myself and Grendel have had massive attacks on our personal lives by these people because we disagreed, dared to push back and challenge them.
In my case going so far as finding out where I worked and trying to get me sacked-just for the crime of supporting my club.
Maybe if Pete and Mark knew about the things going on behind the scenes they’d be in a better place to make informed opinions on folks.
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I remember trying to google the new appointments on the board and couldn't find any indication that they posted about CCFC on social media or anything like that. Obviously not conclusive but you'd expect people who are bothered enough about the club to join the board of the trust to have some kind of digital footprint relating to the team they support.
I'd forgotten about that. I got a 'we know you are chiefdave' message from an anonymous CCFC account on Facebook. Not like I exactly hide it so wouldn't have taken much working out.Kalns tried a very minor doxxing on me too
He tried to put my details on an account on twitter that he had locked so only about 25 follows could see it.I'd forgotten about that. I got a 'we know you are chiefdave' message from an anonymous CCFC account on Facebook. Not like I exactly hide it so wouldn't have taken much working out.
It's naive to think they aren't involved still, the same as Roger Ellis.
Just different names on the board, still the same people pulling the strings.
CJ good bloke tooClassic was that whataboutery from CJ when asked if Ellis was the guy from Rochdale
Classic was that whataboutery from CJ when asked if Ellis was the guy from Rochdale
But if your group tells you you need to think a certain way it takes balls to disagree with everyone else. Ask me about Burge and Grendel about everything else lolYeah, he knew full well. Same with all the troll accounts.
Lost count how many times it was pointed out to him.
But if your group tells you you need to think a certain way it takes balls to disagree with everyone else. Ask me about Burge and Grendel about everything else lol
YeahWhich is exactly the point. No interest in listening to anything apart from the likes of Roger Ellis and David Johnson.
Roger Ellis is on the FSA National Council representing the Trust - Board and National Council - Football Supporters' AssociationIt's naive to think they aren't involved still, the same as Roger Ellis.
Just different names on the board, still the same people pulling the strings.
Roger Ellis is on the FSA National Council representing the Trust - Board and National Council - Football Supporters' Association
"But CJ is alright"Exactly, yet when you ask people like CJ who were on the board at the time they couldn't answer.
Roger Ellis is on the FSA National Council representing the Trust - Board and National Council - Football Supporters' Association
What Pete didn’t see from the trust people was the lengths they went to shut down the debate and the dissenting voices.
Myself and Grendel have had massive attacks on our personal lives by these people because we disagreed, dared to push back and challenge them.
In my case going so far as finding out where I worked and trying to get me sacked-just for the crime of supporting my club.
Maybe if Pete and Mark knew about the things going on behind the scenes they’d be in a better place to make informed opinions on folks.
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I've been on the end of Kalns in the past too.
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