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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,206
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’ve no idea I just think if he won’t sign a new contract we have to sell
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15 million is decent enough, in my opinion you sign 2 players to replace Gus, a cdm and a cam

he does both superbly
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,207
shmmeee said:
?

Have we pissed him off??
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King challenged him to a dick measuring contest and the whole dressing room stood in awe as Doug unleashed an absolute meat mallet and pulverised Hamers cocktail sausage into something barely even recognisable as a penis anymore. He can no longer look his teammates in the eye and asked his agent to contact all clubs with a sub 3-inch changing room average.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,208
15m would be a great deal but I'd still rather he signs a new contract and keep part of what made us so successful last year. I'd back us to sign some decent players but both Gus and Gyok took a fee seasons to get to their peak.
 
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SuperFred

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,209
I know it's not part of the model we are trying to achieve, but I would rather he leaves on a free than lose him and Vik in the same window. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes but he doesn't seem like the type of player who's gonna down tools after Xmas even if he knows he's leaving on a free. If he kicks up a fuss then obviously we have no choice.

The £15m (before add ons) we've got from Vik should be enough to build a squad assuming we are able to reinvest half.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,210
He's still here.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,211
ccfcchris said:
He's still here.
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exactly, some cunts acting like he has gone already
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,212
ccfcchris said:
He's still here.
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He won’t be if he’s not offered what he wants
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,213
Matt smith said:
He won’t be if he’s not offered what he wants
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Not if we're not offered what we want
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,214
David O'Day said:
Not if we're not offered what we want
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Very true, but I imagine the club hasn’t gave him a contract that meets his demands, otherwise he’d have signed by now.

I’m not talking ridiculous figures as I could understand that from the clubs perspective of course, but for supposed 20 grand we should be doing this

if we get 15 for him I’d take it, but delusional to think we’ll be up there next year without couple seasons of consolidation
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,215
All players leave.

This season, we will either have Gus (brilliant)
or
Another good few million to invest in the team

Either way, we ought to be approaching the season with optimism.

New heroes always come along in a football team
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,216
Matt smith said:
Very true, but I imagine the club hasn’t gave him a contract that meets his demands, otherwise he’d have signed by now.

I’m not talking ridiculous figures as I could understand that from the clubs perspective of course, but for supposed 20 grand we should be doing this

if we get 15 for him I’d take it, but delusional to think we’ll be up there next year without couple seasons of consolidation
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Why is it? If we spend it wisely we can be a much better team than last year and won't have to hope 2 players drag us to victory.

I love your bipolar moods swings on the future of Coventry City though
 

hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,217
Matt smith said:
I imagine
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,218
David O'Day said:
Why is it? If we spend it wisely we can be a much better team than last year and won't have to hope 2 players drag us to victory.

I love your bipolar moods swings on the future of Coventry City though
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In your opinion? I think they’ll be really hard to replace, that’s your opinion that we’ll be a better team.

I disagree, so will many Cov fans
 

hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,219
Matt smith said:
What?
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You’ve invented 50 things, it’s all speculation. It’s boring.

Worry about it when it happens.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,220
Matt smith said:
I love it when you get slightly personal when you disagree with someone’s opinion
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Not personal, it's just that in any given day you can have us being really good to being relegated i.e. a bipolar view of the future of Coventry City.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,221
He's not going anywhere if he doesn't want to go. I've a horrible feeling he's going to sit tight and run his contract down.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,222
David O'Day said:
Not personal, it's just that in any given day you can have us being really good to being relegated i.e. a bipolar view of the future of Coventry City.
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Yeah fair enough, I haven’t said we’d get relegated? I said mid table consolidation
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,223
Matt smith said:
Yeah fair enough, I haven’t said we’d get relegated? I said mid table consolidation
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You spent the night after the Play Off final telling us we are fucked and going down.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,224
David O'Day said:
You spent the night after the Play Off final telling us we are fucked and going down.
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Yeah because I was upset and irrational as we lost the biggest game of my life.

I do genuinely get your point, but to expect rationality at that point is pretty unrealistic
 

Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,225
shmmeee said:
It was a joke. Out hashtag is #pusb Cardiffs is #ccfc
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Well no wonder we struggle with twitter profile, we got beaten to #ccfc!
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,226
Matt smith said:
Yeah because I was upset and irrational as we lost the biggest game of my life.

I do genuinely get your point, but to expect rationality at that point is pretty unrealistic
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Over 2000 posts in just over a year probably means you're repeating yourself a lot.

There definitely isn't that much to talk about.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,227
napolimp said:
Over 2000 posts in just over a year probably means you're repeating yourself a lot.

There definitely isn't that much to talk about.
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Nice comment mate, cheers

no need to check how many posts I put, what’s the need?
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,228
Matt smith said:
Nice comment mate, cheers
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You're not the only one though.
 

ceetee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,229
Matt smith said:
Very true, but I imagine the club hasn’t gave him a contract that meets his demands, otherwise he’d have signed by now.

I’m not talking ridiculous figures as I could understand that from the clubs perspective of course, but for supposed 20 grand we should be doing this

if we get 15 for him I’d take it, but delusional to think we’ll be up there next year without couple seasons of consolidation
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Not necessarily true. If he's had his head turn by thoughts of Prem League, then there no way the club can responsibly offer him enough to stay.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,230
We can't let a player of Hamer quality leave on a free, if he's not signing the club need to get the possible fee for him
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,231
ceetee said:
Not necessarily true. If he's had his head turn by thoughts of Prem League, then there no way the club can responsibly offer him enough to stay.
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There’s the nonsense about him “loving the club” - like all players in a short career it’s about maximising your opportunity
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,232
I echo the sentiment that if he’s not going to sign we need to sell. We can’t let a £10-15m asset leave for free.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,233
Matt smith said:
In your opinion? I think they’ll be really hard to replace, that’s your opinion that we’ll be a better team.

I disagree, so will many Cov fans
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This is in no way a criticism of you or your opinion, it's just a technique that might be worth trying to help see things from a rational perspective.

Try to take the emotion out of it for a moment and think with a logical, reasoned mind. Considering only the facts, try to answer the following questions:

1) Have we as a club made positive progress year on year since Mark Robins became manager?

2) Has Mark Robins or any other member of the management of the club said or done anything recently to make you doubt that they are in any way less committed or otherwise unable to continue the upward trajectory of the club?

3) Do you have any evidence that our budget or off-field business is in any way worse than the last 6 seasons?

4) Have we begin to recruit to replace players lost from last season?

5) Do we still have time to recruit more players?

6) Are other teams in the division in a similar position to us at this stage of pre-season?
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,234
Sell Hamer and replace with 2 more players ! FFS we can only put 11 outfielders on the pitch not 12 . He’s massive and DK needs to put his hand in his pocket and KEEP Hamer . He’s the engine that drives our team
 
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Samo

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,235
My hope is that he's already signed and will be announced with the kit launch.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,236
Covcraig@bury said:
Sell Hamer and replace with 2 more players ! FFS we can only put 11 outfielders on the pitch not 12 . He’s massive and DK needs to put his hand in his pocket and KEEP Hamer . He’s the engine that drives our team
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So if a premier club did want him and offers him £50k a week over 4 years we need to match that?
 
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Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,237
theferret said:
We lose both Vic and Gus in this window, we're in a bit of bother. It leaves a huge hole, it shouldn't be underestimated just how good they are.

When I say bother, I'm not suggesting we'd be in any trouble next season, but I couldn't see us pushing on from last term. It would require a comprehensive rebuild, and some of the signings will flop, it is inevitable. We have the right people in charge of course, but you feel the rebuild might take a couple of years to bear fruit.

We have to do what it takes to keep him for another season imo. 20K per week would only be an annual uplift of 500K or so. Surely we pay that rather than pay £2-3 million + wages for a replacement unlikely to be anywhere near his level (if of course he'd be willing to stay for that sort of money).
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It's a brilliant post that I entirely agree with, but then you went and used the "word" uptick! Increase or rise, maybe?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,238
pusbccfc said:
Like with Vik and the fee we got for him, £16m is too much to turn down.

People won't like it, but longer term we are in a brilliant position with those pounds. A season in mid-table and time to spend the money properly over the next 2 years isn't a bad option as long as we secure our status at this level. Making £30m+ of profit on two previously unknown players is incredible.
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Nonsense

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Covcraig@bury

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,239
Grendel said:
So if a premier club did want him and offers him £50k a week over 4 years we need to match that?
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No you take the money but posters on here are saying replace him with 2 players . It’s not that easy to get quality players like Hamer , if it was then the clubs looking at Hamer would be looking elsewhere
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,240
Grendel said:
There’s the nonsense about him “loving the club” - like all players in a short career it’s about maximising your opportunity
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He does love the club. And the fans. He does.

 
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