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Sbarcher

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,576
Macca1987 said:
I’m in Bali believing in you GIMOC
Don’t let me down lol
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Ooohh look at me. Etc etc….
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,577
Grendel said:
There’s obviously an agenda but there are concerns which can be sensibly expressed

The corporate pricing “strategy” was a debacle and shows some naivety at best. It’s clear he had no-one lined up so must have hoped existing customers or the waiting list would renew - it was badly managed

He’s not a big businessman. His company is modest and I doubt requires much customer relations management

So there clearly are issues ahead and the nagging question is why is he here
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Agree, he has a lot to learn about engagement and communication. Kings decision to sound off in the media about Gyokeres was a poor decision. It caused unnecessary tension between both camps and Gyokeres and his agent retaliated by threatening to stay and leave for free. City need that money and everyone knows it
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,578
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, I do have concerns about his style / naivety (my phone wants naturists!) / business sense. He got off very easily saying when he came in he hadn't really thought about the ground and that was madness as we needed some kind of plan. We don't know, but the need to squeeze from ticket sales could be magnified by that.

It's also clear he has alienated a number of staff. Fair? You'll always alienate some. At the same time, go too far and you can cause a crisis. I've worked places where the ghosts of previous management stalk the corridors long after they've left(!)

As for Hamer? At the end of the season before least the highest wage earner was Waghorn on close to £12k. £20k is a big jump from that, so it's maybe unsurprising it becomes a challenge for the club, especially as his current contract was mooted as unsustainable when signed.

To counter that, he has given the manager and assistant new contracts, and is sorting the training ground. He's interesting in the foundations, and a base that hasn't been touched for ages. He also stopped sales in January and allowed players to come in that drove us towards the playoffs

If transfer fees go on new players and running the club I'm happy. If they go on interest payments less so. It's early days and we have to see how it pans out, peaks and troughs, to get a bigger picture... and that won't be clear for a while.
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Agree with that. City can’t and shouldnt pay 20k wages. That’s a million a year.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,579
Fdnmré rc

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skyblu3sk

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,580
DrPoolittle said:
Agree, he has a lot to learn about engagement and communication. Kings decision to sound off in the media about Gyokeres was a poor decision. It caused unnecessary tension between both camps and Gyokeres and his agent retaliated by threatening to stay and leave for free. City need that money and everyone knows it
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I'll be honest I thought he played it spot on letting people know he wasn't going to bend over for them.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,581
DrPoolittle said:
Agree with that. City can’t and shouldnt pay 20k wages. That’s a million a year.
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I'm not even saying they shouldn't.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,582
skyblu3sk said:
I'll be honest I thought he played it spot on letting people know he wasn't going to bend over for them.
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I think he should have said that to them in private. Why go public, especially when the veracity of it is slightly dubious
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,583
DrPoolittle said:
I think he should have said that to them in private. Why go public, especially when the veracity of it is slightly dubious
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Because he was asked directly during an interview. It goes both ways either Gyok was unprofessional and King was too or neither were.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,584
DrPoolittle said:
Agree with that. City can’t and shouldnt pay 20k wages. That’s a million a year.
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Have you seen the fella play??????
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,585
RoboCCFC90 said:
Will believe it when the club announce it.
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I'll believe it when someone who doesn't believe in chemtrails reports it

@GIMOC what's your view on flat earth?
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,586
CovPusb85 said:
Hoping this is true…..didn’t you seem to suggest McNally was coming the other week though?
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To be fair on the McNally one he isn’t going anywhere until the Premiership 25 man squad is announced.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,587
GIMOC said:
Hamer 80% complete. Wages agreed. waiting on formality’s of bonuses and release clauses
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This would be great. Good old king Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a set number inserted so he can leave next summer if we don’t get promoted (hopefully around 15m which is fair on both sides)
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,588
DrPoolittle said:
Agree, he has a lot to learn about engagement and communication. Kings decision to sound off in the media about Gyokeres was a poor decision. It caused unnecessary tension between both camps and Gyokeres and his agent retaliated by threatening to stay and leave for free. City need that money and everyone knows it
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King didn’t sound off. He answered a question put to him, a question that had only arisen because Vik and his agent had both spoken to the media about their frustrations and with implied threats.

The higher up the leagues you go the more this takes place ….. this sort of nonsense happens a lot in the premier league ….
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,589
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, I do have concerns about his style / naivety (my phone wants naturists!) / business sense. He got off very easily saying when he came in he hadn't really thought about the ground and that was madness as we needed some kind of plan. We don't know, but the need to squeeze from ticket sales could be magnified by that.

It's also clear he has alienated a number of staff. Fair? You'll always alienate some. At the same time, go too far and you can cause a crisis. I've worked places where the ghosts of previous management stalk the corridors long after they've left(!)

As for Hamer? At the end of the season before least the highest wage earner was Waghorn on close to £12k. £20k is a big jump from that, so it's maybe unsurprising it becomes a challenge for the club, especially as his current contract was mooted as unsustainable when signed.

To counter that, he has given the manager and assistant new contracts, and is sorting the training ground. He's interesting in the foundations, and a base that hasn't been touched for ages. He also stopped sales in January and allowed players to come in that drove us towards the playoffs

If transfer fees go on new players and running the club I'm happy. If they go on interest payments less so. It's early days and we have to see how it pans out, peaks and troughs, to get a bigger picture... and that won't be clear for a while.
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Maybe they feel alienated 'cos they didn't get cufflinks...

 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,590
MusicDating said:
Maybe they feel alienated 'cos they didn't get cufflinks...

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This can’t be true guy hates his staff and treats everyone like shit.
 
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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,591
We’ve got 14 players ready to announce but they are waiting on the new kit first for the obligatory photo holding it. They’ve all completed the 5 day smile training course.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,592
hill83 said:
We’ve got 14 players ready to announce but they are waiting on the new kit first for the obligatory photo holding it. They’ve all completed the 5 day smile training course.
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Looking forward to see how this translates to a post on the Facebook forum
 
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Robinshio

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,593
I love the way Doug works through the night. Last night gus was a long way off this morning at 5am it is 80% done. What a great example
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,594
hill83 said:
We’ve got 14 players ready to announce but they are waiting on the new kit first for the obligatory photo holding it. They’ve all completed the 5 day smile training course.
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@slowpoke says it’s 15
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,595
GIMOC said:
Hamer 80% complete. Wages agreed. waiting on formality’s of bonuses and release clauses
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bu-bu-but.... Doug is trying to get players on the cheap and doesn't know what he's doing because he isn't a fOoTbAlL mAn!?!!?!?!?!?!
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,596
MusicDating said:
Maybe they feel alienated 'cos they didn't get cufflinks...

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Can confirm this is why there’s mass resignations - Boddy got wind of it and bought a new suit and shirt for the occasion.

was fuming when he didn’t get a set
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,597
skyblue93 said:
bu-bu-but.... Doug is trying to get players on the cheap and doesn't know what he's doing because he isn't a fOoTbAlL mAn!?!!?!?!?!?!
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Let’s wait to see this hit 100%, 80% leaves the response of “they couldn’t agree etc”
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,598
Grendel said:
There’s obviously an agenda but there are concerns which can be sensibly expressed

The corporate pricing “strategy” was a debacle and shows some naivety at best. It’s clear he had no-one lined up so must have hoped existing customers or the waiting list would renew - it was badly managed

He’s not a big businessman. His company is modest and I doubt requires much customer relations management

So there clearly are issues ahead and the nagging question is why is he here
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I've heard people say he hasn't paid SISU a penny yet and others have said it's a tidying up exercise to sell at a profit, might be some truth in it somewhere.
 

GIMOC

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,599
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Can confirm this is why there’s mass resignations - Boddy got wind of it and bought a new suit and shirt for the occasion.

was fuming when he didn’t get a set
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you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,600
GIMOC said:
you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
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Well rightly so… I agree with King on that.
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,601
GIMOC said:
you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
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To be fair, it’s their job to win football matches. They didn’t win the playoffs so not sure why they should expect a bonus. If we had of gone up then fair enough, but we didn’t.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,602
GIMOC said:
you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
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I’m not having that - I thought our new wage structure was heavily based on performances?

fisher overhauled the whole thing back before we got relegated to league two didn’t he?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,603
GIMOC said:
you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
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If players don’t have it in their contract then they can’t demand a bonus for making the playoff. The prize was to win the game at Wembley and get to the Premiership for financial reward.

I am with King on this one.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,604
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m not having that - I thought our new wage structure was heavily based on performances?

fisher overhauled the whole thing back before we got relegated to league two didn’t he?
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the players were all taking the piss out of the cufflinks. they expected a bonus of reaching the final. they didn’t receive anything. obviously on a win bonus but doubt reaching a playoff final would be part of any wage deal.
 
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cstring82

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,605
GIMOC said:
Hamer 80% complete. Wages agreed. waiting on formality’s of bonuses and release clauses
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I hope it’s true, you’re messing with a balding middle aged man’s emotions here
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,606
I heard Dabo missed the penalty out of spite because they misspelt his name on his playoff cufflinks.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,607
GIMOC said:
you’re not far off in a way. players were unhappy. none received a bonus for making the playoffs (wasn’t in the contract so unsure what they were expecting tbh) but they told Boddy as a group they thought they deserved something other than cufflinks. Boddy relayed that back to king and was told no bonus would be given.
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What a load of horsecrap, stick to your chemtrails and flat earth mate even that is more believable
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,608
mr_monkey said:
What a load of horsecrap, stick to your chemtrails and flat earth mate even that is more believable
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will do.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,609
I respect it from King if true. We should not be rewarding failure.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 29, 2023
  • #1,610
The cuff links did look incredibly shit tbf.
 
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