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Chris1987

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,341
Saddlebrains said:
Watch Sheff United bid for Hamer with some of that money
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Unlikely. The owners want to sell the club and are spending sweet F. A. as a consequence
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,342
Kizz said:
We ain’t busting it when simms is on 25k a week (rumoured wage), so why would it be busting out wage when he is the best player this club has seen for 20 years
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Rumoured from where?
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,343
Ccfcisparks said:
Rumoured from where?
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Just from twatter, I’m sure I read here somewhere also.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,344
Robinshio said:
O hare also not mentioned anywhere - he is free to leave on a free in 12 months . Should we not be looking at least at a 12 month extension now , surely a risk worth taking
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I literally made a thread about this yesterday
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,345
Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,346
SIR ERNIE said:
Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
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I think the bigger problem is that we rarely looked like a playoffs-calibre team without Gus firing on all cylinders. Sell him and we have to fix that, there isn’t an obvious answer.
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,347
SIR ERNIE said:
Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
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Him being injured cost us the prem, if he don’t get injured we beat Luton, that’s how important he is, as soon as he went off our attacking threat was gone.
 
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ceetee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,348
You could argue that if COH hadn't been injured Hamer would not have played such an advanced role etc............... It's all what ifs
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,349
Kizz said:
Him being injured cost us the prem, if he don’t get injured we beat Luton, that’s how important he is, as soon as he went off our attacking threat was gone.
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Maybe, maybe not.
We had the chances to win it after he went off.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,350
Kizz said:
We ain’t busting it when simms is on 25k a week (rumoured wage), so why would it be busting out wage when he is the best player this club has seen for 20 years
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There is no evidence Simms is on anything like that sort of money
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,351
SIR ERNIE said:
Maybe, maybe not.
We had the chances to win it after he went off.
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I don’t recall any tbh, maybe Gyokeres had a shot but that was it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,352
Kizz said:
No jet lag here, I’m back in cov for a few weeks , want a picture from the hotel room?
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I doubt the view outside the Brittania is particularly interesting on a Monday morning
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,353
Grendel said:
There is no evidence Simms is on anything like that sort of money
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Like there is no evidence of how much hamer wants, see the problem, that’s why I said rumour because that’s all there.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,354
Kizz said:
Him being injured cost us the prem, if he don’t get injured we beat Luton, that’s how important he is, as soon as he went off our attacking threat was gone.
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Complete fantasy

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,355
Grendel said:
I doubt the view outside the Brittania is particularly interesting on a Monday morning
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One up from the brittania , but even if that’s the case I don’t claim to stay in a lavish hotel, why would I?
What’s the saying the rich don’t stay rich by spending money on shit?

has a window, has a bed, has tv and ac that’s all I need, .

many way love to stay and chat but I got family to visit
 

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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,356
fernandopartridge said:
Complete fantasy

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A fantasy 40,000 people had, and share the same opinion as me, make that 40,000 had the fantasy 70,000 had the same opinion of if hamer stayed in we win that, as we spoke to a few Luton fans and they agreed.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,357
its a buzzard said:
I thought this was just you and me, and now you're bringing your friends.
While we're on the personal questions, what height are you lying down? Are you happy with pine, or would you rather splash out on something like oak?

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Cremation for me, pal. No worm, flesh-eating.

A jam jar will do just fine.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,358
Ccfcisparks said:
Sell for the £5m personally.
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Kizz said:
I don’t recall any tbh, maybe Gyokeres had a shot but that was it.
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You are joking! Godden had a bang on open goal 3 minutes after Hamer scored; it just went over the bar! That would have killed Luton off
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,359
Grendel said:
Yeah that’s a great strategy - commit nearly £5 million of wages to a player who could lose form or suffer a severe injury

Thank christ you aren’t running the club

He still wouldn’t sign it anyway
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Well we've just comitteed more that that on Simms in transfer fees and wages on a player who could be crap or get a severe injury tomorrow.

Only difference is we know Hamer is good, and are hoping Simms will be good
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,360
If we could sign the best midfielder in the championship for £5 million pounds transfer fee you would be buzzing.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,361
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Well we've just comitteed more that that on Simms in transfer fees and wages on a player who could be crap or get a severe injury tomorrow.

Only difference is we know Hamer is good, and are hoping Simms will be good
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We have no idea what Simms wages are - and again he would not sign the deal anyway
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,362
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If we could sign the best midfielder in the championship for £5 million pounds transfer fee you would be buzzing.
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Alex Scott will cost £25 million
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,363
Warwickhunt said:
You are joking! Godden had a bang on open goal 3 minutes after Hamer scored; it just went over the bar! That would have killed Luton off
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Don’t recall if it was 3 mins after hamers goal I was probably still celebrating + you said after hamer goal but we’re strictly talking after hamer went off.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,364
Warwickhunt said:
You are joking! Godden had a bang on open goal 3 minutes after Hamer scored; it just went over the bar! That would have killed Luton off
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It was a half chance

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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,365
Grendel said:
We have no idea what Simms wages are - and again he would not sign the deal anyway
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He's gonna be a top earner and at least £3.5 million in transfer fee, reckless going by your logic as we've committed well over £5 million of the budget to a player who might not perform or could get a long term injury.

He may well have not signed it and its all hypothetical but your reasoning doesn't make sense
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,366
Grendel said:
Alex Scott will cost £25 million
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Bargain in comparison then if you can keep Hamer for £5 million
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,367
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
He's gonna be a top earner and at least £3.5 million in transfer fee, reckless going by your logic as we've committed well over £5 million of the budget to a player who might not perform or could get a long term injury.

He may well have not signed it and its all hypothetical but your reasoning doesn't make sense
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Of course it makes sense. Simms has agreed to come here and commit as a player

Hamer has expressed that he wants to leave and can if he gets a move get wages in access of what we can offer. We can also then get funds back if we sell him to re-build the squad and replace him
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,368
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Bargain in comparison then if you can keep Hamer for £5 million
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But you can't as he wants to leave. So you maximise the opportunity at sale
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,369
Kizz said:
A fantasy 40,000 people had, and share the same opinion as me, make that 40,000 had the fantasy 70,000 had the same opinion of if hamer stayed in we win that, as we spoke to a few Luton fans and they agreed.
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Well yes, 40k people wanted Coventry to win
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,370
You're changing your argument now to suit, you were suggesting it would be insane of the club to commit £5 million of the budget to keep Hamer as he could get injured or loss of form. I don't think it would be insane and would be a good investment


If he won't sign, he won't sign and we need to get the maximum value from him now.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,371
Grendel said:
But you can't as he wants to leave. So you maximise the opportunity at sale
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Yea so you sell and maximise the transfer fee, but you were suggesting it would be madness from the clubs side to to invest £5 million to try and keep him. If the budget was available which we don't even know then I think you could spend £5 million in a lot of worse ways.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,372
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
You're changing your argument now to suit, you were suggesting it would be insane of the club to commit £5 million of the budget to keep Hamer as he could get injured or loss of form. I don't think it would be insane and would be a good investment


If he won't sign, he won't sign and we need to get the maximum value from him now.
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I'm not changing my argument

1. I don't think you can break your wage budget rules for 1 player anyway and certainly not £30k
2. The notion of a clause is ridiculous if we do not get promotion for someone you are committing a large percentage of salary to
3. Robins clearly has said he wants to go so he needs to be gone asap
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,373
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yea so you sell and maximise the transfer fee, but you were suggesting it would be madness from the clubs side to to invest £5 million to try and keep him. If the budget was available which we don't even know then I think you could spend £5 million in a lot of worse ways.
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Yes it would be madness as its a far higher wage than we would pay under our budget to retain his services - its not £5 million its £5 million plus his immediate resale fee which can now be used to invest in the squad
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,374
Grendel said:
He’d get 40 grand a week as a squad player in a premier league club and a 3 or 4 year deal and if he leaves for free he’d be able to negotiate even more
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Has to wait another season to do that and risks getting O'Hare'd in the mean time.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,375
The thought that giving Hamer an enormous contract has no consequence beyond just that contract is myopic in extreme
 
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