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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,061
Robinshio said:
Or he could get an acl and would look very different
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Which is a reason not to offer him a contract
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,062
Balli001 said:
He can negotiate any deal he likes in 6 months. he isnt going to sign a 1 year extension
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Not even if we offer silly money?

If that's the case then, we have 2 choices, let him run down his contract and leave on a free, or accept a bid of around £5 million tops and try to force him out.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,063
theferret said:
Not even if we offer silly money?

If that's the case then, we have 2 choices, let him run down his contract and leave on a free, or accept a bid of around £5 million tops and try to force him out.
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Course not. We arent going to offer silly money remotely near what he could get elsewhere.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,064
The likelihood is that Gus May well want to stay and sign and get on with things but I expect that he has some money grabbing pushy agent in there stirring all manner of shit up like they do .
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,065
Grendel said:
he won’t want a contract - say goodbye to number 38
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Time to retire the shirt.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,066
CovPusb85 said:
We haven’t got time to wait for the best money possible! It’s clear we’ll need to sell him before we get a replacement in, this is exactly why it should have been sorted weeks ago.
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Christ are you still peddling this one. I explained several times why this may not have happened but you ignored me each time
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,067
Number 38

 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,068
Ashdown said:
The likelihood is that Gus May well want to stay and sign and get on with things but I expect that he has some money grabbing pushy agent in there stirring all manner of shit up like they do .
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Robins as good as said that he wants to leave yesterday
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,069
Ashdown said:
The likelihood is that Gus May well want to stay and sign and get on with things but I expect that he has some money grabbing pushy agent in there stirring all manner of shit up like they do .
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Ahh yes, it's all down to the big bad agent who's taken away his free will.
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,070
Balli001 said:
Course not. We arent going to offer silly money remotely near what he could get elsewhere.
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So we have no choice but to let him run down his contract then?

He holds all the cards, we can accept any bid we like, but he can just refuse. Do we drop him in that scenario?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,071
CovPusb85 said:
Because he should have had an ultimatum, this is poor preparation
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What, like, say, the end of July? Giving us a month to sell him and get in a replacement?

Though I doubt it'd have been said in the confrontational way you put as, as that'd be pretty much guaranteeing him saying no.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,072
I think someone has got to him and simply said we will offer you this amount of money but only on a free. See your last 12 months out then you’re going to be rich man.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,073
There's an awful lot of thinking on this thread.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,074
As far as I can see he’s not gone anywhere yet and no one has made an acceptable offer. It’s as it were until we hear differently
 
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Badge72

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,075
CCFC54321 said:
I think someone has got to him and simply said we will offer you this amount of money but only on a free. See your last 12 months out then you’re going to be rich man.
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Or a Dutch club can’t afford to buy him now but in 12 months can give him a good enough package to go back there.
 
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twistandshout

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,076
Balli001 said:
But if he held on he could earn even more and get a massive signing on fee
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Apparently this is not a financial decision, his wife and son are staying in Holland. The guy just wants to be close to his son.
 
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its a buzzard

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,077
Otis said:
There's an awful lot of thinking on this thread.
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Not really.

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CCFC54321

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,078
Badge72 said:
Or a Dutch club can’t afford to buy him now but in 12 months can give him a good enough package to go back there.
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Exactly!!!
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,079
Otis said:
There's an awful lot of thinking on this thread.
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I think that it’s good for people to think
 

ovduk78

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,080
Otis said:
There's an awful lot of thinking on this thread.
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There's also an awful lot of people who know exactly why he wants to leave and there are at least 3 different reasons why.
It's disappointing if he wants to leave but we will get over it. Last season we had plenty who thought we should get rid after his 2nd red card, now he's worth £15m, is irreplaceable and we should retire the number 38
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,081
ovduk78 said:
There's also an awful lot of people who know exactly why he wants to leave and there are at least 3 different reasons why.
It's disappointing if he wants to leave but we will get over it. Last season we had plenty who thought we should get rid after his 2nd red card, now he's worth £15m, is irreplaceable and we should retire the number 38
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I agree. If Hamer god forbid had an ACL tomorrow we would have to move on next season and work the problem or replace him just like o’hare last season.

We could bring it two/three absolute gems if he was sold tomorrow and move on. I personally see him being with us next season and going on a free back to Holland. If so, interesting how Robins plays this out.
 
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Badge72

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,082
CCFC54321 said:
Exactly!!!
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So he spends 12 months going back and forth. Possibly detrimental to his form. So the club end up missing out from every angle including fee’s/replacement. Hence the club trying to force the matter now.
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,083
Badge72 said:
Or a Dutch club can’t afford to buy him now but in 12 months can give him a good enough package to go back there.
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Feyenoord are a decent sized club that is not unfamiliar with reasonably big numbers. They sold kokcu (a midfielder) for £25m earlier this month. Unfortunately they have now spent ~£14m of that on two more midfielders.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,084
CCFC54321 said:
I personally see him being with us next season and going on a free back to Holland. If so, interesting how Robins plays this out.
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Of all the theories, I can very much see this being the case. Has always sounded like he wants to go back, there may also be personal reasons, and there's a good chance Dutch clubs (club) can't match Coventrys valuation (or don't want to).
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,085
Otis said:
If you've got her address, I will send her a box of chocolates and a bunch of flowers.


jammer en mis je

Gus
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To be fair we know how that turned out the last time you tried it
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,086
Burnley are close to signing Lokonga. Looks like he won’t be heading there.
 
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Badge72

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,087
napolimp said:
Of all the theories, I can very much see this being the case. Has always sounded like he wants to go back, there may also be personal reasons, and there's a good chance Dutch clubs (club) can't match Coventrys valuation (or don't want to).
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Robin’s comment re waiting to see how recruitment pans out and seeing what’s with Hamer then supports this theory/guess. I.e keep him if no suitable replacement found.
 

Marty

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,088
This maybe a situation that's ever changing, if it's true his wife has just left him and took the kids back to Holland, he's probably hurting like fuck and desperate to be back with them, but in 6 months time we might be romping to first, he may have found someone else and wants to stay here with them. Let's not do anything hasty.
 
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SkyblueTexan

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,089
If there is no proper resolution to this by the transfer deadline of Sep 1 (i.e. Hamer not signing on for another year or being sold for a reasonable fee), I guess we have no choice but to play him this season and let him run his contract down and leave on a free like BBD. It sucks I know, but what other alternatives are there. Hopefully, he continues to give his all this season and stays committed to our goal of trying to achieve promotion. In the meantime, we’ve got to hope that MR and his team have already started looking for capable replacements as Hamer leaving was always a possibility for the last few transfer windows.
 

WestEndAgro

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,090
Otis said:
There's an awful lot of thinking on this thread.
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Makes a pleasant change
 

ExmouthNeil

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,091
Has he handed in a transfer request?
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,092
Whatever happens wrt Gus i will always thank him for his part getting us to the Playoffs and Scoring that beauty at Wembley - cheers bud
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,093
SIR ERNIE said:
Can you?
For this club in its current position competing such a highly competitive league I think it would be irresponsible madness.
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Why?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,094
shmmeee said:
Why?
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because your retaining an asset that depreciates to zero value in less than a year
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,095
shmmeee said:
Why?
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Because when he goes for nothing next summer you’d need to replace him and strengthen the squad elsewhere with no extra cash.
 
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