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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,026
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Don't think it's about money with Gus, missing his kids and wants to go back to Holland to be closer.

Trouble is, no team in Holland will pay the asking price.
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I've been told before that it is about the money. To be fair, that waa earlier in his Cov career so things might have changed.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,027
I'd be more comfortable if we had both Palmer and O'hare fit, although you still need someone alongside Sheaf to bring the ball out of the back.

Not convinced by this whole he wants to go back to Netherlands thing. There was so much speculation about the contract negotiations, why would there have even been negotiations if he knew he didn't want to sign because he wanted to go home? Something just doesn't seem quite right.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,028
mmttww said:
I think you, Me, and the rest of the forum know absolutely nothing, which means ranting like an entitled maniac about what's "acceptable" is a waste of time.
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I call bullshit. This forum knows everything.
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,029
rexo87 said:
Dawkins has backtracked in his last tweet

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Dawkins should keep his beak out.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,030
Give Hamer the money he wants and if true his misses will come back to him, not really I don't know anything just making it up.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,031
shmmeee said:
Like I say it wouldn’t be the end of the world, but equally I can see the sense in a gamble on keeping such an influential player for a season and rolling the dice on £180m.
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Can you?
For this club in its current position competing such a highly competitive league I think it would be irresponsible madness.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,032
Ccfcisparks said:
Is there no chance of reconciliation between him and his ex and he can get her back over here?
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If you've got her address, I will send her a box of chocolates and a bunch of flowers.


jammer en mis je

Gus
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Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,033
If he leaves, he leaves. It's not the end of the world and I have faith in MR that we can replace him.

Might not quite be like for like, but if we get a good fee, I'm sure we will be fine.

This current squad compared to last year's squad is already looking stronger.
 
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coop

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,034
Rumour is he is offered 22k a week so it's not about the money as I'm sure that's enough for anyone.So probably wants a premier league move.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,035
It was always a possibility. MR will have a list of replacements. The difficulty will be getting the right fee and the right player in.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,036
CovPusb85 said:
Let’s sell him then, and use the money and wages on 1/2 top midfielders…..grimes is the player we should go all out for
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Not sure we would pay the 7 odd million they are looking for tbh
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,037
CovPusb85 said:
Surely that would be realistic though? If Hamer was to go for say 12-15 million, if not would you rather go all out on 1 player to replace him or get 2 in?
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I think that's why Robins has said 3 more for now, sell Gus and look again at what's needed
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,038
If he doesn’t want to be here we need to get rid.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,039
If Hamer goes then I don’t but this we need 2-3 to replace him. The squad is shaping up nicely and if Hamer goes we just need a like for like replacement. If that means 5m on a player then so be it. Gus should fetch 10-12m. 15m is a bit fanciful but hope I’m wrong
 

Robinshio

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,040
Grendel said:
if he wants to go to one club he’d go anyway so why sign a deal?
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Because in the interim he could earn say £20k a week instead of whatever he is currently on
 

Otis

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,041
Sick Boy said:
If he doesn’t want to be here we need to get rid.
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Yup. It's that simple. If we force him to play out his contract, you can't expect the same level of motivation from him.

If he wants to go, we have to let him.

Just try and get the best fee we can.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,042
Robinshio said:
Because in the interim he could earn say £20k a week instead of whatever he is currently on
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But if he held on he could earn even more and get a massive signing on fee
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,043
slowpoke said:
Robbie Keane didn’t demand to leave.
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yes, he did. He told Strachan he wanted out
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,044
Otis said:
Yup. It's that simple. If we force him to play out his contract, you can't expect the same level of motivation from him.

If he wants to go, we have to let him.

Just try and get the best fee we can.
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That’s exactly right. A club like ours cannot afford to miss out on £15 million by letting him leave for free, as well as losing a motivated player.

Robbie Keane demanded to leave. Other players have demanded to leave. It’s disappointing that Hamer wants to go but City need to maximise the income.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,045
If he goes, I preferred the Gyokeres method of departure
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,046
Deleted member 5849 said:
If he goes, I preferred the Gyokeres method of departure
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for £20 million? I agree
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,047
DrPoolittle said:
for £20 million? I agree
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Also the being straight about what's going on, getting it done, allowing everyone to move on with the memories.

(And sign replacements with the cash!)
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,048
Deleted member 5849 said:
Also the being straight about what's going on, getting it done, allowing everyone to move on with the memories.

(And sign replacements with the cash!)
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I agree, better to be ruthlessly told a player wants out like Vik rather than this non committal Hamer rubbish. It's souring him a bit as it's really not ideal with a week to go.

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DrPoolittle

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,049
TomRad85 said:
I agree, better to be ruthlessly told a player wants out like Vik rather than this non committal Hamer rubbish. It's souring him a bit as it's really not ideal with a week to go.

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One of the many theories is that Hamer wants to stay but is trying to squeeze the best possible deal from the club, with the expectation that he will then leave next summer.

I am hoping that he can see what Robins is doing. I am hoping that Hamer might just want to stay to see what happens this season because Robins is building a squad of genuinely exciting talented players. Hamer might just value the chance to be the key player around which a team is being constructed
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,050
Whatever the outcome we have to trust in the coaching and recruitment team who have proved many times over that with player development we have few equals. If Hamer goes maximise the fee and see how it is spent. Its not beyond the realms of fantasy that Cov could splash out another Simms type fee in these circumstances.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,051
Robinshio said:
Because in the interim he could earn say £20k a week instead of whatever he is currently on
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Whereas he could leave for nothing in the summer and command a far higher wage and terms as he’s a free agent
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,052
DrPoolittle said:
That’s exactly right. A club like ours cannot afford to miss out on £15 million by letting him leave for free, as well as losing a motivated player.

Robbie Keane demanded to leave. Other players have demanded to leave. It’s disappointing that Hamer wants to go but City need to maximise the income.
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I may have missed it, but who is offering £15 million? I thought we'd only received a £3 million bid so far?

Clubs know the situation we're in and won't be offering that sort of money. Like I say, could have missed it. If he continues to refuse to sign, we may be forced to accept far less than that.

For me, you make a silly offer to Gus to get him to sign a one year extension. If it costs us an extra £1 million in wages so what. If he is still unsettled in Jan, sell him then for a proper fee. The difference in the fee we might receive would eclipse the cost of his uplift in wages.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,053
theferret said:
I may have missed it, but who is offering £15 million? I thought we'd only received a £3 million bid so far?

Clubs know the situation we're in and won't be offering that sort of money. Like I say, could have missed it. If he continues to refuse to sign, we may be forced to accept far less than that.

For me, you make a silly offer to Gus to get him to sign a one year extension. If it costs us an extra £1 million in wages so what. If he is still unsettled in Jan, sell him then for a proper fee. The difference in the fee we might receive would eclipse the cost of his uplift in wages.
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No one is offering it. This forum has decided it’s what he’s worth based off a tweet a few asks ago

As you say the offers will be far less. The collective view of him on here isn’t it seems shared by the wider football world.

He won’t be signing a new deal - that ship seems to have sailed
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,054
theferret said:
I may have missed it, but who is offering £15 million? I thought we'd only received a £3 million bid so far?

Clubs know the situation we're in and won't be offering that sort of money. Like I say, could have missed it. If he continues to refuse to sign, we may be forced to accept far less than that.

For me, you make a silly offer to Gus to get him to sign a one year extension. If it costs us an extra £1 million in wages so what. If he is still unsettled in Jan, sell him then for a proper fee. The difference in the fee we might receive would eclipse the cost of his uplift in wages.
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Agree, offer Gus a pay uplift and a 1 year extension on his existing contract. Let’s see where we are Xmas - February. This gives us time to get in place a replacement then sell .
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,055
Covcraig@bury said:
Agree, offer Gus a pay uplift and a 1 year extension on his existing contract. Let’s see where we are Xmas - February. This gives us time to get in place a replacement then sell .
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He can negotiate any deal he likes in 6 months. he isnt going to sign a 1 year extension
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,056
Personally I think if don't get a bid over 7m I'd rather keep him for a year and see if he can help us get promoted before he leaves for free
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,057
Covcraig@bury said:
Agree, offer Gus a pay uplift and a 1 year extension on his existing contract. Let’s see where we are Xmas - February. This gives us time to get in place a replacement then sell .
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he won’t want a contract - say goodbye to number 38
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,058
covcity4life said:
Personally I think if don't get a bid over 7m I'd rather keep him for a year and see if he can help us get promoted before he leaves for free
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Insane
 

Robinshio

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,059
Grendel said:
Whereas he could leave for nothing in the summer and command a far higher wage and terms as he’s a free agent
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Or he could get an acl and would look very different
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 30, 2023
  • #4,060
Robinshio said:
Or he could get an acl and would look very different
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He could get that anyway. Doesnt mean he will sign a contract though
 
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