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Hamer injury (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Saddlebrains
  • Start date Dec 4, 2021
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Saddlebrains

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  • Dec 4, 2021
  • #1
Looked off it and unfit from minute 1, was marking thin air until he went down and had to come off.

Rushed back?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 4, 2021
  • #2
Yeah it's the foot injury he got the other week and went off.

Clearly wasn't fit, didn't want to take corners, couldn't kick it.
 
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larry_david

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  • Dec 4, 2021
  • #3
Ridiculous of MR to start him if he can't even take corners because it hurt.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 4, 2021
  • #4
Think the player said he was okay so I’m not blaming Robins. But perhaps should have subbed him earlier it was obvious he wasn’t right.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 4, 2021
  • #5
Get him properly right - hate players being played when carrying injuries. Worse for the player / team longer term. Sooner have a slightly weaker, but fit, player in the side any day of the week.
 
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #6
Just read that they are sending him for a scan. Fingers crossed its just bruising or something minor!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #7
slowpoke said:
Think the player said he was okay so I’m not blaming Robins. But perhaps should have subbed him earlier it was obvious he wasn’t right.
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Do we not have physios and a medical team to decide if a player is actually ready?
 

ceetee

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #8
If I understood Robins' comments after the match correctly, he was suggesting that Hamer should have declared himself unfit
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #9
ceetee said:
If I understood Robins' comments after the match correctly, he was suggesting that Hamer should have declared himself unfit
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As above, why are we relying on players diagnosing themselves?
 
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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #10
No idea on the nature of the injury. But if there is no fracture or obvious signs of severe bruising/swelling I suppose you have to rely on the player to an extent? Not sure if they’d MRI scan for a fairly impact type injury?! Maybe they would.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #11
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As above, why are we relying on players diagnosing themselves?
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League 1 set up still.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #12
stay_up_skyblues said:
No idea on the nature of the injury. But if there is no fracture or obvious signs of severe bruising/swelling I suppose you have to rely on the player to an extent? Not sure if they’d MRI scan for a fairly impact type injury?! Maybe they would.
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No but a physio should still be able to offer a more objective assessment than a player, as they will nearly always say they’re good to go.
 

Esoterica

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #13
The bit I don't get is that Robins should have known if Hamer couldn't take corners. That should all be scripted pre-game.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #14
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No but a physio should still be able to offer a more objective assessment than a player, as they will nearly always say they’re good to go.
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For sure. You’d assume then that the physio had given the green light.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #15
Esoterica said:
The bit I don't get is that Robins should have known if Hamer couldn't take corners. That should all be scripted pre-game.
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Surely he would have seen in training?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #16
Nick said:
Surely he would have seen in training?
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It’s pretty bizarre and if true incompetent from the management team
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #17
Might be the last we see of him if rumours are to believed
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #18
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Might be the last we see of him if rumours are to believed
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Not if he's out injured for a few months.
 

larry_david

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #19
Grendel said:
It’s pretty bizarre and if true incompetent from the management team
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It's pathetic if we've let hamer convince us he's fit when it was clear after 5 mins he couldn't kick the ball.

He's going for a scan now, sorry, but why wasn't this done 2 weeks ago when he did the injury?
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #20
Only the player knows if he's fit or not . He probably thought he was okay in the warm up but as soon as the game started realised he wasn't. Anyone who's played at any level should know this
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #21
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Only the player knows if he's fit or not . He probably thought he was okay in the warm up but as soon as the game started realised he wasn't. Anyone who's played at any level should know this
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So he could take corners on the Friday warm up then and also i assume on the Saturday before kick off?

It may be at the level of the dog and duck but a club one promotion from the premiership

Really?
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #22
Grendel said:
So he could take corners on the Friday warm up then and also i assume on the Saturday before kick off?

It may be at the level of the dog and duck but a club one promotion from the premiership

Really?
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There's more to his game than taking corners.
I've heard Alex Ferguson bemoan players for not declaring themselves fit before.
It would appear as usual you're using any excuse to take a pop at the management team.
Yesterday in game time you used the phrase " inept tactics " and anyone who uses such a term loses all credibility
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #23
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Might be the last we see of him if rumours are to believed
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Is that the rumour you've just made up?
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #24
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Only the player knows if he's fit or not . He probably thought he was okay in the warm up but as soon as the game started realised he wasn't. Anyone who's played at any level should know this
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Any decent championship club would have a physio who could give the manager a percentage of fitness.

I'd assume Robins was given a 50/50 and Hamer made the decision.

Either that, or our physio team is poor.

Ultimately, it shows that Robins is forced to play the likes of O'Hare and Hamer when injured/off form because our squad is so weak.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #25
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Might be the last we see of him if rumours are to believed
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Do tell
 
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Skyblue54

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #26
Couldnt todd kane do a job in midfield?..
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #27
Johnnythespider said:
Do tell
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Just been a lot of whispers about him having personal issues and wanting to go back to the Netherlands. Heard it from a couple of people and seen others on here say it too.
 

shepardo01

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #28
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Just been a lot of whispers about him having personal issues and wanting to go back to the Netherlands. Heard it from a couple of people and seen others on here say it too.
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Think they are old/going back to lockdown and behind closed doors games.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #29
larry_david said:
It's pathetic if we've let hamer convince us he's fit when it was clear after 5 mins he couldn't kick the ball.

He's going for a scan now, sorry, but why wasn't this done 2 weeks ago when he did the injury?
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There are some strange things afoot in several respects at the moment. Part of me wonders if MR himself is having some issues
 

ccfctommy

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #30
pusbccfc said:
League 1 set up still.
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Happened with Southampton yesterday. Their goalkeeper stayed on despite being injured.
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #31
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Just been a lot of whispers about him having personal issues and wanting to go back to the Netherlands. Heard it from a couple of people and seen others on here say it too.
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Have heard the same recently too, really struggling to settle and apparently has his agent working overtime.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #32
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There are some strange things afoot in several respects at the moment. Part of me wonders if MR himself is having some issues
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We get this every season. Give it 6 weeks and come back it this thread
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #33
Love the old rumour mill:

Wife having an affair
Player having an affair
Player has coke problem
Player has drink problem

Player has heroin Problem was a staple ofthe 80s but you don't hear it nowadays.

Heard once that Gareth Southgate was a massive pill head, the most uptight fucker in the country!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #34
skybluesam66 said:
We get this every season. Give it 6 weeks and come back it this thread
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It's possible for something temporary to be distracting him, by his own admission he has made a number of errors of judgment in the last few blocks of games.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 5, 2021
  • #35
pusbccfc said:
Any decent championship club would have a physio who could give the manager a percentage of fitness.

I'd assume Robins was given a 50/50 and Hamer made the decision.

Either that, or our physio team is poor.

Ultimately, it shows that Robins is forced to play the likes of O'Hare and Hamer when injured/off form because our squad is so weak.
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What a load of rubbish, a physio cannot make a declaration like that
 
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