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Transfer Rumour Haji Wright (10 Viewers)

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Calista

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,381
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I mean when things are going badly it’s safe to assume people will write accordingly, don’t need to look or be surprised
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But people are going way too far with stuff along the lines that he's not good enough to be a pro footballer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,382
Calista said:
But people are going way too far with stuff along the lines that he's not good enough to be a pro footballer.
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And at games, for now anyway, they sing his name and clap him off despite him helping us lose 2 points. When it turns toxic at games is when there’s a problem.
 
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Domo

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,383
hinckley cov said:
The difference is gyo could run with ball and make his own chances, and I think Simms could have that in his armoury, but I’m not so sure about wright his control don’t look great at the moment.
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Maybe, and maybe Wright can too, time will tell.

have you seen viks first two gaols from 2021 season? one was a hit into an open goal, the second literally hit him in the face, gotta keep the faith, more chances will come when either our midfield is plauing better, or we get some back from injury.
 
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Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,384
Calista said:
But people are going way too far with stuff along the lines that he's not good enough to be a pro footballer.
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And that is clearly bullshit. All the same, if I was doing my job and someone said I wasn't fit to do it (it has been known!), I wouldn't give up and quit, I'd try to prove them wrong.
 
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Calista

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,385
Finham said:
And that is clearly bullshit. All the same, if I was doing my job and someone said I wasn't fit to do it (it has been known!), I wouldn't give up and quit, I'd try to prove them wrong.
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Agreed, and we have to hope he'll make people eat their words. I believe he can.
 
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Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,386
Calista said:
Agreed, and we have to hope he'll make people eat their words. I believe he can.
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It's the price tag, isn't it? If he'd been £2m we'd still remember his goal, the Leicester near miss, and his part in the built up to a couple of Godden goals. And without the expectation that the fee brings, his head wouldn't have dropped so rapidly.

Ultimately though, social media-especially twitter, TT and FB-is rank and possibly the worst invention of the last 30 years. It's rotted people's brain. Very interesting Naomi Klein interview on Channel 4 News tonight where she discussed how since lockdown ramped up our online existence, our "doppelgangers" have taken over: we aren't ourselves online, we're a version of ourselves. But eventually those alter-ego's begin to change who we are as people in "real life"! If you want to see it, it's on +1 in a few mins!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,387
Finham said:
So we should not discuss things because of "vibes"? Is that even a real thing? So if I type something on here it goes into the ether or becomes part of some social critical mass where all the players know what we type?

I'm sure twitter and facebook are more of a problem in that anyway, that's a platform that almost every player will have anyway. They're asking for trouble if they seek out Sky Blues Talk!
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Vibes are a definite thing. And a vibe of “we’re fucked” will run off on the players. I’d argue it’s their fault we think that though. If they showed a little fight and/or quality we might not be so glum.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,388
Finham said:
And that is clearly bullshit. All the same, if I was doing my job and someone said I wasn't fit to do it (it has been known!), I wouldn't give up and quit, I'd try to prove them wrong.
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How many people boo you at work?

This is some primary school level sports psychology right here.
 
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Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,389
shmmeee said:
Vibes are a definite thing. And a vibe of “we’re fucked” will run off on the players. I’d argue it’s their fault we think that though. If they showed a little fight and/or quality we might not be so glum.
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I might not know what the word means now, as in I think it might have changed since "my era"! Do you simply mean "the atmosphere in the dressing room" Or is it the crowd?
 

Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,390
shmmeee said:
How many people boo you at work?

This is some primary school level sports psychology right here.
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I've been shouted at and one manager told me on their first day "Listen, I've not heard good things about you and as far as I am concerned, I want you out that door as soon as possible". Did the same with 3-4 other people who left. I stuck it out a year, proved her wrong and outlasted her. I agree that it doesn't always work though!
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,391
Finham said:
I might not know what the word means now, as in I think it might have changed since "my era"! Do you simply mean "the atmosphere in the dressing room" Or is it the crowd?
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Yeah atmosphere, basically. But around the whole club. Same way people said the club was buzzing when we got to the playoffs. Players interact with fans and pick up on the mood of the crowd. It’s a definite thing. I’m not sure what you can do though.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,392
Finham said:
I've been shouted at and one manager told me on their first day "Listen, I've not heard good things about you and as far as I am concerned, I want you out that door as soon as possible". Did the same with 3-4 other people who left. I stuck it out a year, proved her wrong and outlasted her. I agree that it doesn't always work though!
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That’s not quite the same as 20k people shouting you’re shit.
 

Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,393
shmmeee said:
That’s not quite the same as 20k people shouting you’re shit.
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Is that what's happening?
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,394
Also “I had a shit manager and only 75% of staff left” isn’t exactly an endorsement
 

Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,395
shmmeee said:
Also “I had a shit manager and only 75% of staff left” isn’t exactly an endorsement
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80% stayed!
 

Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,396
shmmeee said:
Yeah atmosphere, basically. But around the whole club. Same way people said the club was buzzing when we got to the playoffs. Players interact with fans and pick up on the mood of the crowd. It’s a definite thing. I’m not sure what you can do though.
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Well it's not like fans can automatically be happy with poor football, can they? And overpaid/underperforming record signings in particular.

I agree that booing is counter-productive and I wouldn't do it, never had and never will apart from maybe the odd owner. But online? That is a totally different matter, we're discussing footballers on a place for it. I don't think "vibes" from Sky Blues Talk matter one jot!
 

Calista

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,397
The price tag is definitely the problem. As you say, if he'd been bought for a lot less as a squad player/ impact sub, the conversation would be very different. Personally, I'm realistic about the price. It's a huge sum for CCFC of course, but in Premier League squads there are loads of duds who cost four times as much. £10m is the new £1m unfortunately, and it's getting obscene.
 
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Calista

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,398
It may have been mentioned already, but if we were pursuing Haji before the playoff final, does that mean we'd have bought him if we'd been promoted?
 

Finham

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,399
Calista said:
It may have been mentioned already, but if we were pursuing Haji before the playoff final, does that mean we'd have bought him if we'd been promoted?
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There's a sobering thought. Maybe he'd do better in the Prem with us playing more direct/counter like we did last season!
 
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Hincha

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  • Sep 26, 2023
  • #2,400
People forget Gyok couldn't even get in ahead of Biamou during his loan spell here.

It is clear it is going to take these signings some time to develop. Let's give it to them.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,401
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Gyo was quite a bit younger when he arrived and had been recovering from COVID initially, but he clearly had something about him.

Wright is 25 and far more expensive but looks devoid of any self belief.
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Loads of people were slagging him off and said he wasn't good enough (i'm not saying you did). Here's a few from a quick search:

cc84cov said:
Not for me
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SBAndy said:
Gyokeres did very little given his chance to start today. Not interested in signing backup players, would rather look to improve the first XI and the squad in that way. So thanks but no thanks.
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Magwitch1 said:
If I have to choose between Gyokeres or Biamou I’d take Max but we need another as priority buying strikers is a nightmare for any manager, going back over our history of big money at the time signings failures Chris Chilton, Kevin Drinkell, Bobby Graham, Tony Hateley all regular goal scorers at the time but all flopped here and probably our best Ian Wallace was a bargain at£40k.
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procdoc said:
If we are to progress next season a better striker than all of our options this season is required. Obviously finding one is the difficult part
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Marty said:
I wouldn't touch Gyokeres, I think we'll go into the summer with Walker as first choice and try to find someone to play along side him, maybe go with a target man.
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shmmeee said:
Style of player mostly. Doesn’t seem to be the target man we needed and seemingly has been tried and failed at this level already. At least with Gnanduillet (sp?) there’s a chance he can step up. And last season he did better than any of our strikers in L1.
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And many many more.
 
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fatso

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,402
robbiekeane said:
Loads of people were slagging him off and said he wasn't good enough (i'm not saying you did). Here's a few from a quick search:











And many many more.
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We're not talking about Gyokeres though are we.

Expecting Wright to follow in the same footsteps as Gyokeres is like expecting lightning to strike the same place twice.

Or like saying Walker, Waghorn, Biamou, Bakayoko, Cashman etc etc etc would of turned in to £20million pound players if we'd of stuck with them a little longer.
 
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mark82

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,403
Calista said:
It may have been mentioned already, but if we were pursuing Haji before the playoff final, does that mean we'd have bought him if we'd been promoted?
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Quite possibly, yes. Although he'd have had better players around him and expectations may well have been lower.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Sep 27, 2023
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I'm well up for giving him some time, he looks incredibly raw for this league but Gyok did too. His price tag is definitely an issue as people are expecting to see the finished article rather than a player with potential. We have to buy players with potential otherwise we'd be trying to spend the same money we got for Gyok and Hamer on one player replacements who we wouldn't be able to afford the wages for. It's tough cause we all remember we were a few kicks from the premier league but it's where we are at.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2023
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skyblu3sk said:
I'm well up for giving him some time, he looks incredibly raw for this league but Gyok did too. His price tag is definitely an issue as people are expecting to see the finished article rather than a player with potential. We have to buy players with potential otherwise we'd be trying to spend the same money we got for Gyok and Hamer on one player replacements who we wouldn't be able to afford the wages for. It's tough cause we all remember we were a few kicks from the premier league but it's where we are at.
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He’s 25.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,406
What are the odds on Tavares to outscore him and be a better player?
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,407
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What are the odds on Tavares to outscore him and be a better player?
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1,000,000 - 1
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,408
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What are the odds on Tavares to outscore him and be a better player?
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Unfortunately for Tavares, Wright has already managed to equal his goal tally and the former will likely never play again for us.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,409
robbiekeane said:
Loads of people were slagging him off and said he wasn't good enough (i'm not saying you did). Here's a few from a quick search:











And many many more.
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In my defence at that point no one had seen him play!
 

Otis

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,410
Grendel said:
he really isn’t
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Well they both have beards.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,411
Sick Boy said:
1,000,000 - 1
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Bosh a tenner on that then, (see now my logic here is if I say haji’s gonna be shit then Im gonna get proved wrong like almost always)
 

Matt smith

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,412
robbiekeane said:
Loads of people were slagging him off and said he wasn't good enough (i'm not saying you did). Here's a few from a quick search:











And many many more.
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@Ccfcisparks gnaduillet
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,413
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What are the odds on Tavares to outscore him and be a better player?
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From what I have seen in Tavares (cant be more than 180 mins) hes more ability and x factor. From the 500 plus mins I have seen of Wright and the 180 mins of Tavares. I'd be developing Tavares rather than that lump.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,414
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Bosh a tenner on that then, (see now my logic here is if I say haji’s gonna be shit then Im gonna get proved wrong like almost always)
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Well one is a full international and the other is only a few years younger and has hardly played any first-team football and looks way out of his depth at this level.
 

Calista

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  • Sep 27, 2023
  • #2,415
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He’s 25.
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And the position he plays is arguably the toughest on the pitch, which is why plenty of big strikers only grow fully into the role relatively late in their careers. Haji hasn't played in a league like this before so we have to give him time to adapt, and more support in the form of runners from midfield.
 
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