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Transfer Rumour Haji Wright (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 1, 2023
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #701
Evo1883 said:
His overall record is pretty good tbh
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But not at great levels. Whenever he's played at levels as high as the Dutch League he hasn't scored. Danish League is no great shakes.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #702
shmmeee said:
You’ve said I went looking for things matching my opinion. How when I didn’t have an opinion until I went looking

And yes I think they are wrong to offer to pay that for a player with his record TBH. I don’t rate Turkey as a decent level and IIRC Chris Birchall played at a WC, doesn’t mean I’d spend £9m on him!

It’s a hell of a jump in our transfer strategy and quite surprising to me we’ve done it. For the money I’d rather three young players.
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Again though I have to point you to the fact alot of european level clubs were interested in him , 2 bids over 7 million rejected that we know of and in the thoughts of atkeast 2 premier league clubs in Palace and brentford ..

You have to ask of Chris Burchill could ever
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #703
Finham said:
But not at great levels. Whenever he's played at levels as high as the Dutch League he hasn't scored. Danish League is no great shakes.
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Nobody was queuing up to sign Gyokeres after his first full season in the Championship either.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #704
Finham said:
But not at great levels. Whenever he's played at levels as high as the Dutch League he hasn't scored. Danish League is no great shakes.
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But he's also scored more World Cup knockout goals than Ronaldo!
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #705
Evo1883 said:
Again though I have to point you to the fact alot of european level clubs were interested in him , 2 bids over 7 million rejected that we know of and in the thoughts of atkeast 2 premier league clubs in Palace and brentford ..

You have to ask of Chris Burchill could ever
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Seeing as we're discussing Chris Birchill...if we'd spent that on Cobi Jones we'd have been insane and he was a USA international legend.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #706
Finham said:
But not at great levels. Whenever he's played at levels as high as the Dutch League he hasn't scored. Danish League is no great shakes.
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We also have to add in the ability of our coaching staff to improve players ..like hamer , vik , Sheaf , fadz etc
 

Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #707
Evo1883 said:
We also have to add in the ability of our coaching staff to improve players ..like hamer , vik , Sheaf , fadz etc
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With younger players, with the exception of Fadz who is being fed a special mulch.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #708
OK, fact is we do have to accept there is no guarantees this works out

We have to hope we get the best from the lad too
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #709
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So we must have a pretty good reason to be doing it.
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Hope so. We’re in uncharted territory here.
 

Martin180

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #710
Finham said:
But not at great levels. Whenever he's played at levels as high as the Dutch League he hasn't scored. Danish League is no great shakes.
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We play in the Championship …….
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #711
Finham said:
With younger players, with the exception of Fadz who is being fed a special mulch.
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Well even Ben Wilson was transformed from 'Coco the Clown' into a golden glove winner.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #712
Finham said:
With younger players, with the exception of Fadz who is being fed a special mulch.
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Let's just trust the process , it's done us well over the last few years. I doubt they would spend this kind of money if the data didn't back it up
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #713
shmmeee said:
Hope so. We’re in uncharted territory here.
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Well put simply, we'll only be spending a fee like it again if we're either promoted or sell one of this year's intake for another bumper fee.
 

Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #714
Evo1883 said:
OK, fact is we do have to accept there is no guarantees this works out

We have to hope we get the best from the lad too
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No, of course not. I'm just a little frightened.

Besides, there always has to be some wanker to get brought up as "huh, he never rated Haji" so I will go for that role (with a side-dish of "Simon Moore's crap" @shmmeee !)
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #715
shmmeee said:
Hope so. We’re in uncharted territory here.
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Think this is why it's so scary
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #716
In my head he's taken 2 players away whilst palmer puts it on a plate for simms
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #717
Martin180 said:
We play in the Championship …….
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I mean if you really rate the Danish League and the bottom 14 of the Turkish League, that's fine, he's guaranteed goals.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #718
Evo1883 said:
Is it because he's not small and technically brilliant ? I see now , this is your dream team View attachment 31085
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Ah, Barcelona at their tiki-taka prime.
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #719
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well even Ben Wilson was transformed from 'Coco the Clown' into a golden glove winner.
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..to reserve GK again because we've signed Beckenbauer to replace him.
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #720
Finham said:
I mean if you really rate the Danish League and the bottom 14 of the Turkish League, that's fine, he's guaranteed goals.
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Just adding reasoning to your rhetoric
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #721
Evo1883 said:
In my head he's taken 2 players away whilst palmer puts it on a plate for simms
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In mine he's putting Wout Faes on his arse, breaking past Callum Doyle with only the keeper to beat, then the linesman's flag goes up. Rinse and repeat
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #722
Finham said:
I mean if you really rate the Danish League and the bottom 14 of the Turkish League, that's fine, he's guaranteed goals.
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If we go off his last 3 seasons , as a player improving and developing he's scored 40 in his last 90 league games
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #723
Finham said:
..to reserve GK again because we've signed Beckenbauer to replace him.
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More because he's injured, I imagine he'd be starting otherwise.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #724
Evo1883 said:
If we go off his last 3 seasons , as a player improving and developing he's scored 40 in his last 90 league games
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But at what level to justify a fucking massive fee? For £9m I’d want someone who hadn’t flopped at similar levels before. He’s a gamble and the price should reflect that.
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #725
Brighton Sky Blue said:
More because he's injured, I imagine he'd be starting otherwise.
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I hope so, but it's not what others think though.
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #726
Good strikers cost lots of money, if there was no risks at all with this signing he wouldn’t be coming to Cov. We needed a striker and we seem to have signed a good one here.
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #727
Evo1883 said:
If we go off his last 3 seasons , as a player improving and developing he's scored 40 in his last 90 league games
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At lower levels than he'd played before. Denmark and Turkey is not great standard and some teams would be "fill your boots time". He went 7 games without a goal towards the end of this season, maybe he struggles against the better Turkish sides?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #728
shmmeee said:
But at what level to justify a fucking massive fee? For £9m I’d want someone who hadn’t flopped at similar levels before. He’s a gamble and the price should reflect that.
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I'm guessing he fits the criteria for many teams , the data must be good because he's been the subject of bids from big European clubs .. and interest at premier league level ..

There has to be something no ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #729
Finham said:
I hope so, but it's not what others think though.
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The point remains though that this random lower league journeyman was turned into a genuinely solid Championship keeper. In general I think we've got many more transfers right than we have wrong.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #730
Finham said:
At lower levels than he'd played before. Denmark and Turkey is not great standard and some teams would be "fill your boots time". He went 7 games without a goal towards the end of this season, maybe he struggles against the better Turkish sides?
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He scored 4 against the Turkish leagues top 6
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #731
Finham said:
At lower levels than he'd played before. Denmark and Turkey is not great standard and some teams would be "fill your boots time". He went 7 games without a goal towards the end of this season, maybe he struggles against the better Turkish sides?
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I still have to point out that a top Scottish side and a european level la liga side both had bids turned down too .. there simply has to be something there
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #732
Seems he had a problem with over zealous demanding fans over the time he took out too welcome his new son,,think the relationship with the fans became broken because of it, possible he wanted out from there.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #733
shmmeee said:
You’ve said I went looking for things matching my opinion. How when I didn’t have an opinion until I went looking

And yes I think they are wrong to offer to pay that for a player with his record TBH. I don’t rate Turkey as a decent level and IIRC Chris Birchall played at a WC, doesn’t mean I’d spend £9m on him!

It’s a hell of a jump in our transfer strategy and quite surprising to me we’ve done it. For the money I’d rather three young players.
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If we’re serious about getting to the Prem, then clearly we’re not going to get there on a 2-3 €2m punts. Case in point: Tom Bayliss v Maddison - both costing couple of million back in the day. One is an England intnational and the other is currently plying his trade at Shrewsbury.

A full international for the USA playing in the Turkish premier league is hardly a dosser. He’s relatively unknown to us on this forum, but with all due respect, we’re all amateurs.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #734
Finham said:
No, of course not. I'm just a little frightened.

Besides, there always has to be some wanker to get brought up as "huh, he never rated Haji" so I will go for that role (with a side-dish of "Simon Moore's crap" @shmmeee !)
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fair enough but if he smashes 20 goal this season, you'll never live it down.


Seriously though, it is a risk, definitely. I'm nervous about the club spending this much money but much of that is because it's so alien to us.

The last 5/6 years have given me confidence to trust the process.

Sent from my M2101K6G using Tapatalk
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #735
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point remains though that this random lower league journeyman was turned into a genuinely solid Championship keeper. In general I think we've got many more transfers right than we have wrong.
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Oh yeah, me too, and I love Wilson.
 
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