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Bristol sky blue

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The next few months are a generation defining moment for this club.
Do you trust Haji Wright to help us see that through as the lead striker?
It's a no from me.
I have defended Wright on here but I agree with you.
We can't rely on him as a guaranteed starter, however I still feel he has an important part to play for us for the rest of the season.

What frustrates me is that other players are making obvious mistakes too (e.g. MVE has made tons recently), but Wright doesn't get cut any slack at all. IMO Eccles dropping to the floor more often than a whore's knickers is just as annoying as Wright not holding up the ball as well as he should. Not saying we should criticise everyone, the exact opposite.
 

skybluecb

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An interesting read about Wright, all be it written a few years ago, but exactly what we saw from him end of last season and currently now.

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DT-R

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An interesting read about Wright, all be it written a few years ago, but exactly what we saw from him end of last season and currently now.

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The majority of this squad in the last 12 months under Frank have risen to new levels. Haji hasnt. Haji has clearly peaked, we've seen the best of him. He's no different a player now to the player that walked in to Ryton 3 years ago.

Add to that, when he's not scoring goals he offers absolutely nothing to the team. No outlet, no assists, no use defending corners against 10 men teams (see PNE). No good holding the ball up (see Ipswich last week).

For a player that cost what he cost, and wages are what as high as he'll be on, we can do much better imo. Just somebody who will leave everything on the pitch every week, regardless of whether theyre scoring or not. Somebody that offers something even if theyre not scoring.

Im calling right now, if Haji stays here, and Bamford signs till the end of the season with Blunts, Bamford finishes the season with more goals. Even though Haji had a 3½ month headstart and is effectively playing in the better attacking team.

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skybluecb

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Can't read the article, but does it say "sometimes, I just can't be arsed", by any chance?
Yeah it does, it was a game he played for America and basically it says it was an embarrassing performance, he was terrible, lazy, lack of effort, showed no interest. Apparently Josh Sargeant ran, so Wright could jog.
 

Speedie's Head

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If he'd got two or three of the penalty shouts that should have been given recently we wouldn't even be having the discussion! We don't have anyone else who's scored at the WC finals and we're not going to get one to replace him!

 

Londonccfcfan

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The frustrations lye because we know hes capable of so much more. Hes got alot more natural attribtes than Simms.

But Simms does the basics of goal scoring well.

Simms has ridiculous goal scoring minutes stats atm.

We have to back Haji. I certainly would not be selling him. He has a part big part to play.

We are lucky to have this team.
 

richnrg

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I'm not so fussed about his recent (lack of) goalscoring form - its more the fact that when he's on the pitch its like we're playing with 10 men. Having won the ball in defence, a ball up to Wrights feet/head/chest/general vacinity is effectivey the same as passing it straight back to the opposition - perhaps with an added 1/2 second delay.
 

skybluecam

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I don't really get what most of his critics think is going on in his head?

Do people really think he's not trying? Why would he do that? It makes no sense.

The fact is that he is a goalscorer, and not much else. He doesn't hold the ball up or playmake particularly well. Never has. So when he's not scoring, of course he doesn't look great. His game is all about receiving the ball facing goal in and around the box, we're struggling to create those opportunities often enough right now so it just isn't happening for him.

He's underperformed personally, but is probably unlucky to have not scored 1 or 2 in the last 10 games which would probably have taken some heat off his back.
 

Londonccfcfan

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I don't really get what most of his critics think is going on in his head?

Do people really think he's not trying? Why would he do that? It makes no sense.

The fact is that he is a goalscorer, and not much else. He doesn't hold the ball up or playmake particularly well. Never has. So when he's not scoring, of course he doesn't look great. His game is all about receiving the ball facing goal in and around the box, we're struggling to create those opportunities often enough right now so it just isn't happening for him.

He's underperformed personally, but is probably unlucky to have not scored 1 or 2 in the last 10 games which would probably have taken some heat off his back.
It woukd be interesting to have an interview with him..im sure hes as frustrated as we all are. If hes not then theres gotta be questions.
 

Briles

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I don't really get what most of his critics think is going on in his head?

Do people really think he's not trying? Why would he do that? It makes no sense.

The fact is that he is a goalscorer, and not much else. He doesn't hold the ball up or playmake particularly well. Never has. So when he's not scoring, of course he doesn't look great. His game is all about receiving the ball facing goal in and around the box, we're struggling to create those opportunities often enough right now so it just isn't happening for him.

He's underperformed personally, but is probably unlucky to have not scored 1 or 2 in the last 10 games which would probably have taken some heat off his back.
He also has played his best games for us from the left but Lampard wants him down the middle. He aint going anywhere so fans need to support him
 

Cally Fedora

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Lampard is going with Wright. So it’s pointless to keep playing in to his feet. He’s no good in that scenario. We can argue till we’re blue in the face whether he should be but he isn’t. If he plays we have to prioritise balls into the channel.
 

eyesee

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Lampard is going with Wright. So it’s pointless to keep playing in to his feet. He’s no good in that scenario. We can argue till we’re blue in the face whether he should be but he isn’t. If he plays we have to prioritise balls into the channel.
i assume by "into the channel" you're referring to where haji stands while he is inevitably offside.

i'm not attacking the guy out of hand. he's had some amazing games for us, but they were almost all on the left wing for me.
he needs time and space to get the ball under control, and stretch his legs. and you just don't get that in the box.
add to that his lack of heading ability, and i just do not see him as a striker.

enjoy him while you can. i just have a feeling he's off.
 

Evo1883

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He also has played his best games for us from the left but Lampard wants him down the middle. He aint going anywhere so fans need to support him
The best haji has ever played for us was through the middle against sunderland , he was unbeleivable that day , hes a striker

Hes nowhere near EMC as a winger
 

PVA

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Wasn’t there some talk on here from an ITK that he got an absolute roasting from some players (I think Kitching was mentioned) in the dressing room after the playoffs last year, for a lack of effort?

No idea if it’s true or not of course.

I don’t think it is a lack of effort or that he’s not interested. I think it’s just his demeanour sometimes maybe falsely gives that impression.
 

Essexrobbie

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Its no coincidence that since loosing Asante through injury our whole energy level of press has dropped considerably and goal threat too. Wright isn't a goal threat in the air and even Simms who has had a few isnt outstanding in that regard. We have also missed the aerial presents of Thomo too which has all contributed to our downturn in form of late.
 

Cally Fedora

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i assume by "into the channel" you're referring to where haji stands while he is inevitably offside.

i'm not attacking the guy out of hand. he's had some amazing games for us, but they were almost all on the left wing for me.
he needs time and space to get the ball under control, and stretch his legs. and you just don't get that in the box.
add to that his lack of heading ability, and i just do not see him as a striker.

enjoy him while you can. i just have a feeling he's off.
I agree he’s better on the left. I wouldn’t be against sticking Simms up top and rotating Wright and EMC on the left. He’s our best attacking player by far but we’re not seeing the best of him.
 

Speedie's Head

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He also has played his best games for us from the left but Lampard wants him down the middle. He aint going anywhere so fans need to support him
Usually on the left of a two though and with a back 5, not stuck out on the wing where he can't provide enough defensive cover either.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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The best haji has ever played for us was through the middle against sunderland , he was unbeleivable that day , hes a striker

Hes nowhere near EMC as a winger
Your using one match, his best run of semi consistent form was off the left in his first season or at the start of this season as a striker if you want to argue his best position is striker.

He was largely crap as a striker last season with the Sunderland performance being an anomaly.
 

Speedie's Head

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Your using one match, his best run of semi consistent form was off the left in his first season or at the start of this season as a striker if you want to argue his best position is striker.

He was largely crap as a striker last season with the Sunderland performance being an anomaly.
12 goals in half a season with four months out is pretty good going by any standards, don't forget the he got hurt early preseason in the "friendly" and missed most of that too. I don't know what expectations you have?
 

Skyblueabo1111

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If he'd got two or three of the penalty shouts that should have been given recently we wouldn't even be having the discussion! We don't have anyone else who's scored at the WC finals and we're not going to get one to replace him!

No, we have inform striker, Ellis Simms, 7 in 8 starts.
 

Speedie's Head

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No, we have inform striker, Ellis Simms, 7 in 8 starts.
He got one yesterday from the free cross playing in Haji's position. He was unremarkable for the rest of the game and in his two previous starts. I like the lad but he's a carthorse next to Haji, I'm afraid. I remember last season too in forty odd starts - seems some do not but I do not want us to be relying on the long ball, it dilutes all of the players' skills over time.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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He got one yesterday from the free cross playing in Haji's position. He was unremarkable for the rest of the game and in his two previous starts. I like the lad but he's a carthorse next to Haji, I'm afraid. I remember last season too in forty odd starts - seems some do not but I do not want us to be relying on the long ball, it dilutes all of the players' skills over time.
He had a solid game, 2 headers on target, worked hard and layed the ball off well. He is scoring, Wright isn't..Like I say, 7 in 8 starts, Haji, not one. "Carthorse next to Haji!".. are you serious? Haji looks like he can't be bothered. When Simms starts, we win games.
 

Liquid Gold

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He just seems to have lost all strikers instincts.

Early season Haji would have scored his chance yesterday but he had an awful first touch and then pounced it well wide. He also seems to want an extra touch whenever in a decent position which inevitable results in a defender closing him down.

Whatever happens for the rest of this season I hope Frank and Doug realise we can't rely on a guy who goes missing for months at a time and we improve in the summer.
 

Evo1883

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Your using one match, his best run of semi consistent form was off the left in his first season or at the start of this season as a striker if you want to argue his best position is striker.

He was largely crap as a striker last season with the Sunderland performance being an anomaly.
Hes a striker , lampard plays him there and the usa

Was only robins really that played him wide more than through the middle
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Hes a striker , lampard plays him there and the usa

Was only robins really that played him wide more than through the middle
He’s clearly streaky goal scorer too, he had runs last season where he’d score 5-6 games in a row.

He needs tough love and by that, needs to be dropped and forced to work his way back in the team. His last goals were in October, he’s missed big chances in big games for us and Simms right now, is the better goal scorer.

If he wants to mope about it, tough shit. It’s not like last season where he was working his way back into match fitness and being shifted from striker to LW every other game.

The same applies to Rudoni, hasn’t been the same since he came back from injury and needs to earn his spot back.
 

eyesee

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He got one yesterday from the free cross playing in Haji's position. He was unremarkable for the rest of the game and in his two previous starts. I like the lad but he's a carthorse next to Haji, I'm afraid. I remember last season too in forty odd starts - seems some do not but I do not want us to be relying on the long ball, it dilutes all of the players' skills over time.
simmos goal yesterday was a perfect example of the difference between him and haji. haji would have taken a touch, and been closed down. no goal.
 

Grendel

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simmos goal yesterday was a perfect example of the difference between him and haji. haji would have taken a touch, and been closed down. no goal.

Yeah - the other difference is Haji will be worth at least 3 times what Simms would get in transfer fees. This forum is getting more ridiculous by the day.
 

Grendel

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Good finish though yesterday wasnt it

Great. Paul Williams once scored a 35 yard volley in the Premier League - whose worth more if we sold?
 

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