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bigfatronssba

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,396
1ccfc said:
As it stands that's two different valuations, as the maximum someone is willing to pay does not match our valuation. Just because I value my house at a certain figure, doesn't necessarily mean it's worth it.
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Just because 10 people offer you £100 also doesn’t mean that’s its valuation.

It’s supply and demand.

The amount we’re prepared to sell for affects his value
 
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Speedie's Head

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,397
bigfatronssba said:
Just because 10 people offer you £100 also doesn’t mean that’s its valuation.

It’s supply and demand.

The amount we’re prepared to sell for affects his value
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Only if you're serious about walking away.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,398
Speedie's Head said:
Only if you're serious about walking away.
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And if you’re prepared to meet the consequences…. If King is prepared to walk away from 18m is he gonna supplement Robins’ budget whilst dealing with an unhappy striker
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,399
Bertola said:
Fly all the way to England.... Just to offer the same deal they pretty much started out with. FFS. You know the asking price, stump up the cash.

Robins should be on the phone to Vik telling him that they clearly dont rate him enough to pay what he's worth
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With the agents???
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,400
Tomh111 said:
So you're advocating for losing your bottle and take the offer?

There is next to no chance that Sporting walk away completely and even less chance that he sits out his contract.

We know Sporting have more cash, they've just sold a striker to PSG. We know they're all in, cause of the media coverage and rumour. Both sides are working out when the other will break.

Sporting will not want to spend all this time, effort etc and not get their man. We ultimately have made a decision that Vik is worth 20 million at this point. I'm happy to trust Doug has rationale behind that, he has actually done nothing but be astute since he came into the club.
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Who bears the greatest risk? Them with £50m in the bank or us with nothing?
 

1ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,401
bigfatronssba said:
It’s supply and demand.
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Let's hope that the demand is there for the price we want. So far there doesn't appear to be the demand above what SL are offering. Although, as fans we probably don't know everything that's happening and there is still time. Still, it's a big gamble for a club like ours.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,402
If Sporting take their ball home for good then your next bidder offers less if they've got any sense. Say £15m
 
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edgy

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,403
Sporting fans now turning on their president for failing to agree figures.

Seems to be some discrepancies between the first reported fee of 20m, which he confirmed in an interview and the latest reported fee of 18m + unknown add ons.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,404
Speedie's Head said:
If Sporting take their ball home for good then your next bidder offers less if they've got any sense. Say £15m
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Of course they do, if Sporting walks away now the ceiling price has been set
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,405
Well I guess we’ll see how this all plays out.

Either King is awful at negotiating a sale, or he has a level of respect for our club that no owner in my lifetime has had.

Whatever happens, it’s nice to see us not being a pushover for once. Also it casts doubts on recent theories that Doug is a chancer who is just out for a quick buck
 

edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,406
fernandopartridge said:
Of course they do, if Sporting walks away now the ceiling price has been set
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Not entirely. The next bidder may well come in at that price to start with but may also have the clout to increase if they want to secure the deal.
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,407
Still two months to play with, not like we’re a fortnight away from the window closing. £15m seems a bit of a shit offer, King must know we can get more.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,408
Ultimately it should be up to Robins if he goes unless Doug is offering to match the budget. And if Robins wants to cash in then he has a say on time no so he can gel replacements in time.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,409
I can’t believe how quickly some of you lose your bottle.

It was generally regarded as fact on here a few weeks ago that for Gyokeres and Hamer we’d get a combined £40m in
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,410
I’m starting to think a few posters aren’t the master negotiators/business minds they like
to think they are.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,411
Oh no, we're not immediately shipping Gyokeres off for first bid
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,412
Yorkshire SB said:
Still two months to play with, not like we’re a fortnight away from the window closing. £15m seems a bit of a shit offer, King must know we can get more.
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We're 4 weeks or so from the season starting and have 1 other senior striker at the club. We sell Gyokeres with a week left of the window and what happens?
 
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,413
Worst comes to worst we know we can call Blackburn in late August to see if they fancy him for half price. Nice to have a fallback option
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,414
edgy said:
Not entirely. The next bidder may well come in at that price to start with but may also have the clout to increase if they want to secure the deal.
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Why? They don't need to increase their price, we need to sell no matter what and they will know it.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,415
fernandopartridge said:
Why? They don't need to increase their price, we need to sell no matter what and they will know it.
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Yeah other clubs are going to be aware of this and take advantage - we’re really not coming at this from the position of strength some like to think.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,416
it’s good to know that the club continue to drive a hard bargain, although it does look as if a deal might be concluded this week.

But keeping Gyokeres until his contract expires isn’t a viable option. The club need that money, otherwise how can Robins bring in 8 or so players.

Not only that, an unhappy Gyokeres isn’t going to perform to the best of his ability and risk injury.

City will sell.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,417
I understand the offer for Vik is 18m Euros
The current rate is 0.85
15% less?
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,418
fernandopartridge said:
Of course they do, if Sporting walks away now the ceiling price has been set
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Completely and utterly incorrect.

We set the price. If anything, the opposite is true and the basement price has been set.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,419
shmmeee said:
Ultimately it should be up to Robins if he goes unless Doug is offering to match the budget. And if Robins wants to cash in then he has a say on time no so he can gel replacements in time.
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I think Simms is all but a done deal.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,420
Tomh111 said:
Completely and utterly incorrect.

We set the price. If anything, the opposite is true and the basement price has been set.
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Christ.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,421
oldfiver said:
I understand the offer for Vik is 18m Euros
The current rate is 0.85
15% less?
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If the €18m offer was on the table last week it would have been worth £180k more then than it is now. Genius.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,422
clint van damme said:
I think Simms is all but a done deal.
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Can genuinely not tell who actually thinks they are itk and who's taking the piss anymore.

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Tomh111

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,423
Tomh111 said:
Completely and utterly incorrect.

We set the price. If anything, the opposite is true and the basement price has been set.
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Just to be clear I mean for other clubs. Obviously if Sporting walk away then they have reached their ceiling.

They aren't the only club interested however.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,424
TomRad85 said:
Can genuinely not tell who actually thinks they are itk and who's taking the piss anymore.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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Not taking the piss and not ITK, just got a feeling he'll be with us next season.
 
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DrPoolittle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,425
Tomh111 said:
Just to be clear I mean for other clubs. Obviously if Sporting walk away then they have reached their ceiling.

They aren't the only club interested however.
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Possibly

But I suspect Gyokeres only wants to go to Lisbon. I don’t blame him.

City can accept bids from elsewhere but you can’t force a player to leave
 
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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,426
clint van damme said:
Not taking the piss and not ITK, just got a feeling he'll be with us next season.
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It's written on the wind, it's everywhere you go?
 

Essexrobbie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,427
There has got to be a deadline as to whether he goes or stays. If clubs think they can take him the day before the season starts giving us no time to find a replacement then they've got to know that's not on.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,428
DrPoolittle said:
Possibly

But I suspect Gyokeres only wants to go to Lisbon. I don’t blame him.

City can accept bids from elsewhere but you can’t force a player to leave
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I'm not sure that it's that cut and dry. He clearly has a preference for Sporting, but if Atalanta or a Prem side come in and its laid plain - them or us then I don't think he stays.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,429
Essexrobbie said:
There has got to be a deadline as to whether he goes or stays. If clubs think they can take him the day before the season starts giving us no time to find a replacement then they've got to know that's not on.
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No honour among thieves of course
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 4, 2023
  • #3,430
Essexrobbie said:
There has got to be a deadline as to whether he goes or stays. If clubs think they can take him the day before the season starts giving us no time to find a replacement then they've got to know that's not on.
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We wouldn’t have much choice.
 
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