no_loyalty
Well-Known Member
I would like to think this saga won’t go on for too long, but if Vik has the desire to go to Sporting Lisbon only then this could drag on for sometime.
We can’t sell a player to a club he doesn’t want to go to though. Worst case is he leaves for free after being disgruntled for a season (unlikely). I agree that we shouldn’t sell to first offer* but on the flip side other clubs should move asap if they want him as they know Sporting are pushing to get the deal done. I think the window opens tomorrow so clubs should be getting offers in
*it sounds like we might turned down Sportings first offer
Agreed, although you'd think that the position has improved, with regards to improved TV deals and improved forecast attendances, release of ST income etc helping cash flow etc. Not saying that bridges the gap, but most likely improves it. As you rightly say, that doesn't explain his motive, but that could be levied at a few purchasers. My point with the original poster was that it would be a strange business model indeed to ignore any income from player sales (as it would be expenditure).He purchased a club with clear operational losses - I still don’t see any motive why he purchased it
This is what’s getting me, he’s not got a background in football, it makes no sense why he bought usHe purchased a club with clear operational losses - I still don’t see any motive why he purchased it
Deals are done prior to the transfer window opening, there's nothing to stop clubs from bidding for players.The bid hasn't been accepted yet. The transfer window isn't even open. The bids will come.
What club sells their best player to the first offer on the opening day of the transfer window? It would be amateur.
You're normally the one pointing out the small-mindedness of some of our supporters so this does surprise me.
Deals are done prior to the transfer window opening, there's nothing to stop clubs from bidding for players.
I'm hardly shitting myself.That doesn't change anything. The transfer window is 2.5 months long and many clubs take a while to get their houses in order. You won't get the most for a player as in demand as Gyökeres by doing early bird sales.
Stop shitting yourself.
Surprising that they didn't go up at any point with those goals. You wonder who was so rubbish at the back but they had Mark Venus for years and he did well with Ipswich in the Prem when he got there.Andy Mutch, yeah, that was the guy I had in mind. Stand corrected on his being a winger, and I'm sure you're right about Bull scoring loads of goals anyway. Got to be one of the better strike forces outside the top flight ever, I'd think. Sad that, like Celtic winning the European Cup with a team all born within 30 miles of the home ground, it'll never happen again.
Not necessarily - the longer it goes the more desperate we’ll get to sell. As soon as September 1st comes he’s going on a free.That doesn't change anything. The transfer window is 2.5 months long and many clubs take a while to get their houses in order. You won't get the most for a player as in demand as Gyökeres by doing early bird sales.
Stop shitting yourself.
That couple of million might be the difference between Hamer staying or leaving, get the best deal you can imoAs long as Doug is happy covering the fees up front. Otherwise you lose as much in lost targets and increased fees as you gain.
Get him gone. Another couple of mil isn’t worth the hassle IMO. Let Sporting have him for £17m + sell on. It’s a fair price and the next talented person that we’re after might recognise us as a club that’ll be decent to its players.
When all’s said and done, when he goes, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s undisclosed unless the purchasing team publish the numbers. I’d be ok with that if it spares us a financial kicking with any players we are looking to sign.
Plenty of owners know naff all about football. Even Joy learned the vagaries of how to not run a club.This is what’s getting me, he’s not got a background in football, it makes no sense why he bought us
Name of her next novel, isn't it?Plenty of owners know naff all about football. Even Joy learned the vagaries of How to Not Run a Club.
In line (the valuation) with a lot of the views on here, you can't knock the lad for giving his opinion in a balanced and reasoned way. With 2/3 years in his contract he would go for near £30m, as it he has a year and that weakens our bargaining point. That said if someone wants him enough they will stump up the cash... I can see this one running and running tho, we'll want the to wring every penny.‘Reports from Portugal last week claimed that Sporting are now willing to push to just over £17m to get their man’. No mention of add ons.
‘City’s valuation for the player, however, is understood to be north of £20m’.
I’d call £4m or £5m significant. Significant enough to pay some decent quality player wages for a few years.
The Vagaries MonologuesName of her next novel, isn't it?
But we’re a football club without a stadium and leaking money. There’s no economical sense In buying usPlenty of owners know naff all about football. Even Joy learned the vagaries of how to not run a club.
One reason you might go to Lisbon is they have a highly rated young coach, who's always linked with top jobs. Impress him, and there's a chance he comes in for you when he moves on...
They are... and still finished fourth!they’re one of only three elite clubs in the Primeira Liga
To early, too cheap as the club has’t tested the interest through touting him out. Hoping 22-25m. Dreaming more
18 team league isn’t it, so 25+ goals would be impressive indeed!I can see why he’d want to go to Sporting, they’re one of only three elite clubs in the Primeira Liga and I reckon he’d bag 25 plus goals a season. Plus guaranteed European football every season and home crowds of 30k every week, 40k for big games. There’s every chance his profile within Europe would sky rocket. He’d very quickly be on the radar of much bigger clubs.
I watched a fair bit of Portuguese football several years ago in the Algarve. More than half the league get average attendances of below 5k. Outside the top 4 or 5 clubs, the players are L1 or Championship level at best. Vik would have a field day against some of those defenders.
Good move for him at this stage of his career.
He lives on…18 team league isn’t it, so 25+ goals would be impressive indeed!
Top scorer got 22 this year
Primeira Liga Top Scorers - BBC Sport
Primeira Liga top scorers. Showing assists, time on pitch and the shots on and off target.www.bbc.co.uk
Still in his twenties, has been for the last 30 years.
and Lisbon is a f*cking beautiful place!One reason you might go to Lisbon is they have a highly rated young coach, who's always linked with top jobs. Impress him, and there's a chance he comes in for you when he moves on...
or tell anyone else that's interested to get offers in as soon as the window opens because we want it done. Feels like we're in the driving seat with this one. No need to wait around in case someone beats the first club's offer. For all we know, the club's helping leak the story re: Sporting to get others making offers.To early, too cheap as the club has’t tested the interest through touting him out. Hoping 22-25m. Dreaming more
Wonder if he'll still be here when the season opens in early August, and if so - does he play?
Lameiras...a terrific player we completely had a blind spot about...Isn't Lameiras playing in the primera liga now? Shows the standard of the division, would surely be a stepping stone to a big European club for Gyokeres?
I agree, excellent player. Was pretty annoyed we released him at the time, he'd have absolutely murdered league 2.Lameiras...a terrific player we completely had a blind spot about...
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