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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #456
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Of course they do, I've not said otherwise. But any notion that Gyokeres warrants equal to or more than Spence in terms of a fee is utterly ridiculous given the latter's demand, potential and quality.

Gyokeres' erratic finishing and lack of consistency in front of goal likely would put off a number of potential suitors.
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I’ve not seen enough of Spence tbh and I will stick my neck out and say you probably haven’t either…but the criteria you used can more or less be said of Gyokeres…possibly more.
They are seemingly both very good championship players, with bright futures. So as strikers go for more than fullbacks it’s not inconceivable/ridiculous that they would go for similar amounts…even if you think Gyokeres is not as good?
 
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Skybluemichael

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #457
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It'll be Cameron Archer.
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What you mean premier league
Aston Villa’s Cameron archer
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #458
Skybluemichael said:
What you mean premier league
Aston Villa’s Cameron archer
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It says playing in the Championship recently.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #459
Skybluemichael said:
What you mean premier league
Aston Villa’s Cameron archer
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Read the quote again...
 

RegiswasGod

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #460
Skybluemichael said:
What you mean premier league
Aston Villa’s Cameron archer
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Playing in the Championship recently. Archer was on loan at Preston
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #461
Good spot
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #462
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It'll be Cameron Archer.
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Not sure why Cameron Archer warrants £20m-25m in your mind, yet Vik should be less than half that?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #463
Terry_dactyl said:
I’ve not seen enough of Spence tbh and I will stick my neck out and say you probably haven’t either…but the criteria you used can more or less be said of Gyokeres…possibly more.
They are seemingly both very good championship players, with bright futures. So as strikers go for more than fullbacks it’s not inconceivable/ridiculous that they would go for similar amounts…even if you think Gyokeres is not as good?
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Actually I went to Forest a few times last season due to a few friends of mine being ST holders. He's a special talent and it's of no surprise a top 6 PL club is actively looking to sign him. If anything IMO £15m rising to £20m is a steal.

How can you say the criteria can be said more of Gyokeres given the stark difference in the stature of clubs interested in both players? The most definitive interest in Gyokeres so far in this window is Middlesbrough?

Given at Spence's age Gyokeres was struggling to get a game for Swansea, Spence quite clearly has a far brighter future than him.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #464
I hope we’re trying to take the piss like that. He’s the one we need to keep the most but if we get an offer of £20m then he’d obviously be long gone.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #465
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Not sure why Cameron Archer warrants £20m-25m in your mind, yet Vik should be less than half that?
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Given Villa has valued Keinan Davies at £15m I'd imagine they've valued Archer at an equally inflated figure.

Middlesbrough have also been reported to have shown interest.
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #466
I think that's £20-£25m for Vic
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #467
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Given Villa has valued Keinan Davies at £15m I'd imagine they've valued Archer at an equally inflated figure.

Middlesbrough have also been reported to have shown interest.
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Keinan Davies is probably worth that imo. Archer no more, but probably a little less. I think Vik is of similar value to the former.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #468
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Actually I went to Forest a few times last season due to a few friends of mine being ST holders. He's a special talent and it's of no surprise a top 6 PL club is actively looking to sign him. If anything IMO £15m rising to £20m is a steal.

How can you say the criteria can be said more of Gyokeres given the stark difference in the stature of clubs interested in both players? The most definitive interest in Gyokeres so far in this window is Middlesbrough?

Given at Spence's age Gyokeres was struggling to get a game for Swansea, Spence quite clearly has a far brighter future than him.
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What you, I or anyone else think Gyokeres is worth is irrelevant. If we have quoted Middlesbrough £20m to £25m it most likely is a message that we don't want to sell, which is a message I'm happy with, and means we will not sell at a lower price, even if its a price you think he is worth. We don't have to sell as he still has only 2 years on his contract, so as long as he doesn't become unsettled we are in a good position to command a much larger fee and force any potential buyer to pay over the odds if they really want to buy him, a position we have rarely been in over the last however many years.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #469
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Keinan Davies is probably worth that imo. Archer no more, but probably a little less. I think Vik is of similar value to the former.
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Hmm I disagree. Archer's stock would've risen exponentially. It's also been widely reported that it would take a significant fee for Villa to sell, hence why I'd imagine that's who Chris Wilder will be talking about.

It certainly won't be Gyokeres. The club are in no position to be placing price tags of that size on the heads of their players.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #470
Super Graham Withey said:
I think that's £20-£25m for Vic
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Well it isn't is it. Look at players sold by Championship clubs for that figure and you'll realise any notion of the club placing a value of that size on Gyokeres' head is frankly idiotic.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #471
Skybluemichael said:
do you think he’s talking about gyokeres
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Either way this is pleasing

Could mean that they are in for other targets and maybe not so dead set on getting Viktor as the press made out, or for a change we are playing hard-ball over our prized assets
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #472
I think it's a case of ask for £20m/£25m, but accept 17m/18m - including add ons. You're always going to quote above the actual price you'll sell at.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #473
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Well it isn't is it. Look at players sold by Championship clubs for that figure and you'll realise any notion of the club placing a value of that size on Gyokeres' head is frankly idiotic.
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Could I refer you to Legia Sky Blue's post.I'm of the same opinion.I and many others hope it put and end to any thought of Vic leaving.Love it to be the same Callum and Gus.
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #474
Are people missing the recently part? Which implies it was a striker on loan from a Premier League club he’s talking about. Could be Balogun who they had?
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #475
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Are people missing the recently part? Which implies it was a striker on loan from a Premier League club he’s talking about. Could be Balogun who they had?
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Or Connoly
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #476
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Well it isn't is it. Look at players sold by Championship clubs for that figure and you'll realise any notion of the club placing a value of that size on Gyokeres' head is frankly idiotic.
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alexccfc99

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #477
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Or Connoly
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I would safely put absolutely everything I own on it NOT being Aaron Connolly
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #478
alexccfc99 said:
I would safely put absolutely everything I own on it NOT being Aaron Connolly
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To be fair Connolly is definitely worth nowhere near that value stated, and seeing as Brighton arent complete dicks
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #479
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
To be fair Connolly is definitely worth nowhere near that value stated, and seeing as Brighton arent complete dicks
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Considering he was booed off at The Riverside on numerous occasions and he got caught doing laughing gas at a house party the night before a match I very highly doubt they’d be in for him again
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #480
It could be Adam Armstrong or David Nugent for all we know. Pointless even talking about it.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #481
skyblue93 said:
It could be Adam Armstrong or David Nugent for all we know. Pointless even talking about it.
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Who receives the £20m for Nugent, he’s a free agent isn’t he?
 
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procdoc

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #482
If Middlesbrough offered 20-25 million for Vik (they won’t) I’d drive him there myself
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #483
procdoc said:
If Middlesbrough offered 20-25 million for Vik (they won’t) I’d drive him there myself
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It'd cost you £1m in petrol !!!!!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #484
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why wouldn't you look at goals and assists? We have one number 10 who is amazing at everything apart from end product, and we really need more in that area. This is not just one season's worth of data we are looking at, he has failed to provide a good amount in six seasons in the championship.

He might be a 'classy player' in your eyes, and I am sure your experience watching him is valid, but how on any planet is that enough? If there is no end product then it is pointless. If he is going to be one of our highest paid players then there are a lot of question marks too.
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Clueless
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #485
fernandopartridge said:
Clueless
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Strong counter argument. Is it because I said something about COH? Everyone knows how much you get triggered at even the slightest bit of criticism of him.

The facts are there. He doesn't have enough end product at the moment and we've just signed a player in the same position who also has questionable stats. Why don't you tell us how assists and goals aren't important for attacking players, rather than posting a one word stroppy reply?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #486
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Strong counter argument. Is it because I said something about COH? Everyone knows how much you get triggered at even the slightest bit of criticism of him.

The facts are there. He doesn't have enough end product at the moment and we've just signed a player in the same position who also has questionable stats. Why don't you tell us how assists and goals aren't important for attacking players, rather than posting a one word stroppy reply?
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You're placing far too much onus on goals and assists and completely ignoring how integral he is to the side.

Other than Hamer he's probably our only consistent link between defence and attack, his ability to stop the opposition's run of play by tracking back and get the ball back quickly is also invaluable given the lack of quality we have in defence, and due to his attacking threat he regularly draws defenders away ultimately creating room for others to get into dangerous positions.

Given we scored more goals last season than 15 sides but only conceded less than 7 I'd probably be more concerned about our issues at the other end of the pitch.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #487
The opposition basically build their defensive game plan on stopping O’Hare. Every pundit comments on how integral he is to us. Should he score and assist more? Yes. If he added that consistently he wouldn’t be playing for us. It’s very basic just to judge him on his goals and assists when his game is so much more than that
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #488
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Of course they do, I've not said otherwise. But any notion that Gyokeres warrants equal to or more than Spence in terms of a fee is utterly ridiculous given the latter's demand, potential and quality.

Gyokeres' erratic finishing and lack of consistency in front of goal likely would put off a number of potential suitors.
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Oh man. By the looks of it you might give Gyokeres to them for free
 

WGABSOOS

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #489
procdoc said:
The opposition basically build their defensive game plan on stopping O’Hare. Every pundit comments on how integral he is to us. Should he score and assist more? Yes. If he added that consistently he wouldn’t be playing for us. It’s very basic just to judge him on his goals and assists when his game is so much more than that
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Well he is an attacking midfielder paid to score or assist goals right? I fear the meltdown if palmer starts actually producing and ohare gets dropped.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2022
  • #490
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You're placing far too much onus on goals and assists and completely ignoring how integral he is to the side.

Other than Hamer he's probably our only consistent link between defence and attack, his ability to stop the opposition's run of play by tracking back and get the ball back quickly is also invaluable given the lack of quality we have in defence, and due to his attacking threat he regularly draws defenders away ultimately creating room for others to get into dangerous positions.

Given we scored more goals last season than 15 sides but only conceded less than 7 I'd probably be more concerned about our issues at the other end of the pitch.
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I clearly highlighted how important to the team he is, I am just pointing out (and I know it upsets people) that his end product isn't very good, and that we have signed someone who based on past exploits doesn't look likely to compensate for those flaws. Whilst our defence is clearly a problem, we should have also scored many more goals, which also acts as a defensive deterrent in itself.

I'm not sure why you are just constantly looking for arguments on here? You haven't even read what I've written at all either.
 
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