Gyokeres was miles more important, with what he brought to the club and what his transfer out enabled for us.
that’s not the point of this thread?Yeah but we didn't know what a player he'd turn out to be when we signed him from Brighton - there's not one of us when he joined who would've said 'This is one of the most mportant signings we've ever made'
I think Thomas must have loads of those pre assists too. Seems to be involved in almost every goal.Too soon to say. Some good shouts above though.
I do think Grimes is massively underrated by a few and often over looked by the press for TOTW or team of the season of far votes. To me he just quietly does most things way better than the majority players in this league. Very little flash to it just dictates a game or breaks up the oppositions rhythm.
I'm pretty sure there are wanky stats about 'pre assists' I'd be very surprised if he isn't really high in that as he seems to often make the pass that unlocks the space that ends in a goal a pass or two down the line.
Great player and an absolute daylight robbery we got him for what we paid. He is the one player I dread getting injured.
Doyle was absolutely not a more important signing than Matty GrimesNot even close I'm afraid . Great signing but others have been more important. Keane , McAllister , Gyokeres , Hamer McFadz and Doyle in recent times to name a few
Well worth the net +2.5m in signing him and offloading sheafI think we all agree that without him, we'd be much worse off.
If we get promoted, he will have been well worth the 3.5m fee, and possibly be the most important and most lucrative transfer ever.
It’s a football joke isn’t it?Well worth the net +2.5m in signing him and offloading sheaf
Doyle was absolutely not a more important signing than Matty Grimes
Gyokeres was miles more important, with what he brought to the club and what his transfer out enabled for us.
Ultimately MR,ADY the coaching team but that bloke who our recruiter ex Wolves, went onto Blackpool got a short-lived promotion then sacked quiteYeah but we didn't know what a player he'd turn out to be when we signed him from Brighton - there's not one of us when he joined who would've said 'This is one of the most mportant signings we've ever made'
Absolute collossus.I think Thomas must have loads of those pre assists too. Seems to be involved in almost every goal.
Well he's outright top for chance creation, successful passes, crosses and also has touched the ball more than anyone else in the league. So it's probably safe to say there's nobody better in the league at what he does.Too soon to say. Some good shouts above though.
I do think Grimes is massively underrated by a few and often over looked by the press for TOTW or team of the season of far votes. To me he just quietly does most things way better than the majority players in this league. Very little flash to it just dictates a game or breaks up the oppositions rhythm.
I'm pretty sure there are wanky stats about 'pre assists' I'd be very surprised if he isn't really high in that as he seems to often make the pass that unlocks the space that ends in a goal a pass or two down the line.
Great player and an absolute daylight robbery we got him for what we paid. He is the one player I dread getting injured.
that’s not the point of this thread?
Well he's outright top for chance creation, successful passes, crosses and also has touched the ball more than anyone else in the league. So it's probably safe to say there's nobody better in the league at what he does.
In the prem you need that extra physicality as a DM. So I think we would look to bring one in. There would likely be games where we require two DM’s though so he would play a partI know he's well regarded with people in the know but it is surprising he isn't talked about more in the press. I guess he doesn't really do the flashy moments that can be clipped for social media.
I'd love to see how he would get on in the Prem, I have a suspicion he'd cope well. Being super tidy on the ball and having a great read of the game can serve players really well. Can't put my finger on a player he reminds me of. Maybe a tad of Jorginho. Tidy keeps things ticking, not a classic man mountain of DM.
Fitness record is nearly perfect too which bodes well for the league above, my concern would be the speed and physicality going up another level which is perhaps why nobody's taken the chance on him.I know he's well regarded with people in the know but it is surprising he isn't talked about more in the press. I guess he doesn't really do the flashy moments that can be clipped for social media.
I'd love to see how he would get on in the Prem, I have a suspicion he'd cope well. Being super tidy on the ball and having a great read of the game can serve players really well. Can't put my finger on a player he reminds me of. Maybe a tad of Jorginho. Tidy keeps things ticking, not a classic man mountain of DM.
In the prem you need that extra physicality as a DM. So I think we would look to bring one in. There would likely be games where we require two DM’s though so he would play a part
Fitness record is nearly perfect too which bodes well for the league above, my concern would be the speed and physicality going up another level which is perhaps why nobody's taken the chance on him.
Two exceptions to the ruleThat's one reason I mentioned Jorginho, he I 5'11" and not exactly a rippling boby builder, he survived/thrived on his guile on the ball and reading of the game. Obviously he has had a far more successful career but it does prove you can do it at the top level even if you aren't super athletic.
Pirlo is another, different style for me but he just relied on being a beat ahead of almost everyone else rather than physical stuff.
Adam Wharton is pretty skinny, MacAllister isn't giant. Joshua Kimmich again 5' 10" and lean. There are plenty of examplesTwo exceptions to the rule
Has to be Terry Yorath. How did we managed to sign him?
It depends which way you look at it. When we signed Doyle we were about as low as you could go and we couldn't see a way out. But somehow we managed to get above the sides like Accrington Stanley who did the double over us. Without his fighting spirit we would most probably have been down the lower reaches of the football league for longer. No Gyokeres, Hamer or Grimes. No flying at the top of the Championship this season.Doyle was absolutely not a more important signing than Matty Grimes
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