Get that clown out of goal (1 Viewer)

[Sick Boy]

Collins is the better keeper, definitely.

But, in the interest of fairness...

People posted Collins' post shot xG a few weeks ago showing he's one of the best in the league.

Wilson's PSxG last season is better than Collins' this season.

Wilson's is much worse this season of course , but I think it's worth pointing that out to put Collins' season in perspective.

Collins should be first choice, end of. I'd prefer us to go out and invest in a 'keeper who we could be our number one for years to come. It doesn't seem as though Robins sees it as a priority position though.

 

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[Old Warwickshire lad]

Unless the 6 yard box is completely congested,any high balls coming in from a distance have to be the keepers ball.
To take four or five steps and jump to catch the ball should be chicken feed, especially as you will be completely protected by the ref.

 

[CCFCSteve]

That's why I asked if it was Robins or Thomas telling him to stay. He has come for crosses before so why not this one ?

He’s always been hit and miss when it comes to crosses. I don’t know what might’ve been said but I can 100% guarantee that Robins hasn’t told a keeper not to come for crosses in his six yard box. Calls like that will always be left to the keeper as there’s so many variables

Quite a few have also questioned Collins recently, in particular not holding onto/parrying shots which again is a fair observation, especially if there’s opposition players near. Collins has been the better keeper this season though and I think just gives the defence a bit more confidence…yesterdays back four didn’t do Wilson any favours though

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.

 

[procdoc]

Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.

Stockdale?

 

[Happy_Martian]

yesterdays back four didn’t do Wilson any favours though

It's just this. Regardless of circumstances, fans hate on Wilson no matter whereas Collins gets a clean bill of health, even though he's constantly letting goals in.

 

[fernandopartridge]

hate on Wilson

You should be banned for that

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[SBT]

Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.

Ahh David Stockdale. The nailed on GK for the CCFC Short-Lived Legends team, also featuring Dennis Wise, Lee Mills and Richie Partridge

 

[SBT]

The "delay" in Wilson getting to the ball for the second goal...

Seems to be another defender in the way to protect that ball. Keeper leaves that to his defenders, 9 times out of 10.

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And the own goal...

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Weight on his left side to fall that way. Ball goes through his legs. @Nick, are you suggesting he could have stopped it with his legs ? Bent down to collect it ? Remember the speed at which the ball is travelling.

Screengrabbing iFollow screenshots to try and Zapruder your way into believing that Ben Wilson is a good keeper, you deserve better in life my friend, don’t do this to yourself

 

[Happy_Martian]

You should be banned for that

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Being quoted out of context ?

 

[Calista]

Leaving aside the wider question of whether Wilson or Collins are good enough for our ambitions, the cross for the first goal isn't a harmless floaty ball of the type we tend to put in. It's whipped in hard but has a looping trajectory that would put doubt into most keepers' minds.

 

[ccfctommy]

Collins has player over 200 league games and is 5 years younger than Wilson

At his age wilson played less than 30 and was dumped out to Telford

There’s zero comparison.

So? Liverpools keeper today (Kelleher) has only played ten league games. He's 25.

 

[alfielloyd]

So? Liverpools keeper today (Kelleher) has only played ten league games. He's 25.

If you are unable to recognise the difference between being Liverpool's reserve keeper, second to a keeper capped by Brazil over 60 times and being Accrington's reserve keeper you obviously do not know too much about the great game.

 

[Evo1883]

 

[slowpoke]

Premier clubs have three keepers all of which are good enough for their first team, we have three keepers too, Moore is leaving and might be followed by Wilson, we have nothing at the moment backing up Collins.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

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Just absolutely mental from Robins to drop Collins.

 

[TomRad85]

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Not much between them though mate...

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[skybluecam]

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that's actually comical

 

[TomRad85]

that's actually comical

It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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[slowpoke]

It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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I admit I’m a bit old school when it comes to goalkeepers probably spoilt by having Glazier & Oggy for the best part of 25 years who dominated the six yard box catching most crosses, corners, free-kicks, long throw’s etc, none of ours do, distribution seems more important nowadays. The trouble with that defenders have to be on the ball and get to the loose ball first.
Most important position on the pitch.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Ahh David Stockdale. The nailed on GK for the CCFC Short-Lived Legends team, also featuring Dennis Wise, Lee Mills and Richie Partridge

Not on about legends or anything else, just pointing out how a keeper commanding his area can instil confidence in his defence.
He was a bit of a fat git as well .

 

[Hertsccfc]

It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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There can be all sorts of reasons for decisions about team selection which we as fans have no knowledge of. Robins has more knowledge than any of us.

 

[TomRad85]

There can be all sorts of reasons for decisions about team selection which we as fans have no knowledge of. Robins has more knowledge than any of us.

Nah, it's bullshit and makes no sense. Hopefully he's figured it out now.

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[shmmeee]

For the Clean Sheet King

 

[hamertime]

I’d stick with Wilson for another game at least, also for his goal threat.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

One good catch and calm passing around the back a good keeper does not make

 

[Covkid1968#]

Wasn’t it the West Brom home game that got Wilson dropped!! With Collins ill it could be Wilson chance to redeem himself!!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Wasn’t it the West Brom home game that got Wilson dropped!! With Collins ill it could be Wilson chance to redeem himself!!

So long as they don’t shoot we’ll be fine

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

So long as they don’t shoot we’ll be fine

Lol

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

The Wilson/Collins debate is boring. Why can’t we just accept they’re both shite. We haven’t had a solid keeper since Westwood

A new no 1 for next season would be good

 

[JSL]

Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?

I heard Robins interview on CRW after the game and he said Collins was ill.

 

[Frostie]

Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?

Yes. Didn't train day before either.

At least there's no chance of Wilson catching it... 🫣

 

[Milne Out]

It’s hard talking and judging keepers as we have had Glazier, Blythe and Oggy in the past. All with their faults , but all outstanding keepers

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

It’s hard talking and judging keepers as we have had Glazier, Blythe and Oggy in the past. All with their faults , but all outstanding keepers

We haven't had a top keeper since Westwood, when I think of Scott Shear and that Italian guy who played one game at Tranmere in a league cup game I break out into a cold sweat.