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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #316
PVA said:
Collins is the better keeper, definitely.

But, in the interest of fairness...

People posted Collins' post shot xG a few weeks ago showing he's one of the best in the league.

Wilson's PSxG last season is better than Collins' this season.

Wilson's is much worse this season of course , but I think it's worth pointing that out to put Collins' season in perspective.
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Collins should be first choice, end of. I'd prefer us to go out and invest in a 'keeper who we could be our number one for years to come. It doesn't seem as though Robins sees it as a priority position though.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #317
Unless the 6 yard box is completely congested,any high balls coming in from a distance have to be the keepers ball.
To take four or five steps and jump to catch the ball should be chicken feed, especially as you will be completely protected by the ref.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #318
Happy_Martian said:
That's why I asked if it was Robins or Thomas telling him to stay. He has come for crosses before so why not this one ?
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He’s always been hit and miss when it comes to crosses. I don’t know what might’ve been said but I can 100% guarantee that Robins hasn’t told a keeper not to come for crosses in his six yard box. Calls like that will always be left to the keeper as there’s so many variables

Quite a few have also questioned Collins recently, in particular not holding onto/parrying shots which again is a fair observation, especially if there’s opposition players near. Collins has been the better keeper this season though and I think just gives the defence a bit more confidence…yesterdays back four didn’t do Wilson any favours though
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #319
Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.
 
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procdoc

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #320
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.
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Stockdale?
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #321
CCFCSteve said:
yesterdays back four didn’t do Wilson any favours though
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It's just this. Regardless of circumstances, fans hate on Wilson no matter whereas Collins gets a clean bill of health, even though he's constantly letting goals in.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #322
Happy_Martian said:
hate on Wilson
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You should be banned for that

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SBT

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #323
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Who was the keeper came on loan from brum, podgy git ambled out, caught every high ball that came in. Changed our defence overnight from a bunch of nervous wrecks, to confident defenders who knew they had a goalkeeper they could trust.
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Ahh David Stockdale. The nailed on GK for the CCFC Short-Lived Legends team, also featuring Dennis Wise, Lee Mills and Richie Partridge
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #324
Happy_Martian said:
The "delay" in Wilson getting to the ball for the second goal...

Seems to be another defender in the way to protect that ball. Keeper leaves that to his defenders, 9 times out of 10.

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And the own goal...

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Weight on his left side to fall that way. Ball goes through his legs. @Nick, are you suggesting he could have stopped it with his legs ? Bent down to collect it ? Remember the speed at which the ball is travelling.
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Screengrabbing iFollow screenshots to try and Zapruder your way into believing that Ben Wilson is a good keeper, you deserve better in life my friend, don’t do this to yourself
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #325
fernandopartridge said:
You should be banned for that

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Being quoted out of context ?
 

Calista

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2024
  • #326
Leaving aside the wider question of whether Wilson or Collins are good enough for our ambitions, the cross for the first goal isn't a harmless floaty ball of the type we tend to put in. It's whipped in hard but has a looping trajectory that would put doubt into most keepers' minds.
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Feb 25, 2024
  • #327
Grendel said:
Collins has player over 200 league games and is 5 years younger than Wilson

At his age wilson played less than 30 and was dumped out to Telford

There’s zero comparison.
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So? Liverpools keeper today (Kelleher) has only played ten league games. He's 25.
 

alfielloyd

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  • Feb 25, 2024
  • #328
ccfctommy said:
So? Liverpools keeper today (Kelleher) has only played ten league games. He's 25.
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If you are unable to recognise the difference between being Liverpool's reserve keeper, second to a keeper capped by Brazil over 60 times and being Accrington's reserve keeper you obviously do not know too much about the great game.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #329
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #330
Premier clubs have three keepers all of which are good enough for their first team, we have three keepers too, Moore is leaving and might be followed by Wilson, we have nothing at the moment backing up Collins.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #331
Evo1883 said:
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Just absolutely mental from Robins to drop Collins.
 

TomRad85

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #332
Evo1883 said:
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Not much between them though mate...

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skybluecam

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #333
Evo1883 said:
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that's actually comical
 

TomRad85

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #334
skybluecam said:
that's actually comical
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It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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slowpoke

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #335
TomRad85 said:
It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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I admit I’m a bit old school when it comes to goalkeepers probably spoilt by having Glazier & Oggy for the best part of 25 years who dominated the six yard box catching most crosses, corners, free-kicks, long throw’s etc, none of ours do, distribution seems more important nowadays. The trouble with that defenders have to be on the ball and get to the loose ball first.
Most important position on the pitch.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #336
SBT said:
Ahh David Stockdale. The nailed on GK for the CCFC Short-Lived Legends team, also featuring Dennis Wise, Lee Mills and Richie Partridge
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Not on about legends or anything else, just pointing out how a keeper commanding his area can instil confidence in his defence.
He was a bit of a fat git as well .
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #337
TomRad85 said:
It's not even one where you say you need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt, as he's, you know, the manager and we're just blokes on a forum. On this he's completely wrong, end of discussion.

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There can be all sorts of reasons for decisions about team selection which we as fans have no knowledge of. Robins has more knowledge than any of us.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #338
Deleted member 9744 said:
There can be all sorts of reasons for decisions about team selection which we as fans have no knowledge of. Robins has more knowledge than any of us.
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Nah, it's bullshit and makes no sense. Hopefully he's figured it out now.

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2024
  • #339


For the Clean Sheet King
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #340
I’d stick with Wilson for another game at least, also for his goal threat.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #341
One good catch and calm passing around the back a good keeper does not make
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #342
Wasn’t it the West Brom home game that got Wilson dropped!! With Collins ill it could be Wilson chance to redeem himself!!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #343
Covkid1968# said:
Wasn’t it the West Brom home game that got Wilson dropped!! With Collins ill it could be Wilson chance to redeem himself!!
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So long as they don’t shoot we’ll be fine
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #344
Sky Blue Pete said:
So long as they don’t shoot we’ll be fine
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Lol
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #345
PorkySmurf said:
The Wilson/Collins debate is boring. Why can’t we just accept they’re both shite. We haven’t had a solid keeper since Westwood
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A new no 1 for next season would be good
 

JSL

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #346
Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #347
JSL said:
Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?
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I heard Robins interview on CRW after the game and he said Collins was ill.
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #348
JSL said:
Was Collins "ill" forvyesterdays match hence why he wasnt selected? Anyone know?
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Yes. Didn't train day before either.

At least there's no chance of Wilson catching it... 🫣
 
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Milne Out

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #349
It’s hard talking and judging keepers as we have had Glazier, Blythe and Oggy in the past. All with their faults , but all outstanding keepers
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Feb 27, 2024
  • #350
Milne Out said:
It’s hard talking and judging keepers as we have had Glazier, Blythe and Oggy in the past. All with their faults , but all outstanding keepers
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We haven't had a top keeper since Westwood, when I think of Scott Shear and that Italian guy who played one game at Tranmere in a league cup game I break out into a cold sweat.
 
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