They are outcasts in society even if they are growing slightly. As you've seen, out yourself as a member of the far right you get fired and tbf I can kinda see why, although I respect you for not being comfortable with that, I'm not either. The comments he made that Otis put up are far more of a sackable offence than the plane so maybe he got what he deserved anyway.
But on the other hand you have this Cambridge professor who's been backed by her employers for her anti white tweets (Google it if you haven't seen it.) This kind of thing does nothing but stoke the flames of division and is doing the far rights recruitment for them.
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Is that not whataboutism that people hate?
Farage and Hopkins are horrible cunts. It doesn't mean people who sway the other "way" can't be horrible cunts.
Hopkins made a career out of being a c**t, she is in the same bracket as Piers Morgan. All about the reaction.
They are calculated as opposed to the braindead knuckledraggers.
Piers Morgan? The Piers Morgan who voted for the Conservatives?You're argument really is on shaky ground when you're comparing Farage and Hopkins to Morgan
I actually think it's a bit unfair on Farage lumping him in with Hopkins to be honest
You're argument really is on shaky ground when you're comparing Farage and Hopkins to Morgan
I actually think it's a bit unfair on Farage lumping him in with Hopkins to be honest
Agree, if they took the political compass test I think Hopkins would be significantly to the right of Farage.You're argument really is on shaky ground when you're comparing Farage and Hopkins to Morgan
I actually think it's a bit unfair on Farage lumping him in with Hopkins to be honest
Agree, if they took the political compass test I think Hopkins would be significantly to the right of Farage.
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Piers Morgan who fabricates pictures and hacks the phones of dead girls?
Nah, they are all in the bracket of "horrible cunts who will stir things up as much as they can".
Don't even think she believes in the shit she talks. It just keeps people talking about her. Makes her no less of a c**t though.Agree, if they took the political compass test I think Hopkins would be significantly to the right of Farage.
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Speaking of Ash Sarkar, I see she posted a photo on Twitter of her eating an ice lolly in a park, an hour before the Reading attack, but some just saw the photo without even bothering to look at the time she posted it, and she got a shed load of racist abuse and death threats and someone said they were going to pour petrol over her and set her on fire.But this is why people question people's motives.
They accuse people like Morgan of stirring racial tension but give the far right a pass.
Look at Tom's comments, the far right are outcasts.
They really aren't there a menace.
I'm not sure which branch of the authorities released figures on the far right threat in the last couple of weeks but they said there was a 6 or 7 percent increase in foiled attacks yet people bang on about Ash Sakar!
And I've slated Morgan for that. Got banned from.twitter for calling him out on it.
But this debate is about race baiting and stirring trouble.
Morgan not in the same league as the others especially Hopkins.
Don't even think she believes in the shit she talks. It just keeps people talking about her. Makes her no less of a c**t though.
I agree with everything you just said and I also hope you are wrong.I fear you're under estimating them Tom though it's one of those arguments where I hope I'm wrong.
As for the professor I haven't seen it but those comments seem clearly racist.
I try to advocate for free speech which is why I said the Burnley fella shouldn't have been sacked (based on the plane stunt I hadn't seen his social media comments at the time).
But I think a free speech debate needs a thread of its own as it's a big discussion.
Speaking of Ash Sarkar, I see she posted a photo on Twitter of her eating an ice lolly in a park, an hour before the Reading attack, but some just saw the photo and she got al shed load of racist abuse and death threats and someone said they were going to pour petrol over her and set her on fire.
What is happening with people these days?
I agree with everything you just said and I also hope you are wrong.
We could talk about it for ages, in my eyes the only way the far right gets the numbers to be a threat is if reasonable people get pushed there.
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We could talk about it for ages, in my eyes the only way the far right gets the numbers to be a threat is if reasonable people get pushed there.
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I agree to an extent, when people get angry then can end up adopting an extreme argument out of frustration. I like to think most people are more reasonable and dare I say it, centrist, in every day life.I'm not sure there are any more hardcore left/ right wingers, the problem is that the country is now so divided that there are a whole lot more people who can be swayed & persuaded to take one of those stances.
But the photo clearly says 17.24.Think she posted it after the attack which some mentalists on the other "side" took it as mocking because she put 3 emojis.
That's the thing, the racist cunts giving her abuse are wrong. She is wrong for coming out with racist comments as well to stir things up but goes on ITV and forgets to mention her previous comments.
But the photo clearly says 17.24.
This is in the attacking paediatricians thinking they are paedophiles bracket.
Scum.
I am not disagreeing with you, Nick, I am just saying you can clearly see the photo is before the attack and she says she posted it before she knew of the attackNo she posted it in the evening.
Again, people posting nooses and all that bullshit? Scum
I think she is in the clever, calculated bracket. She gets all the braindead, knuckledraggers worked up and then plays off it.
I'm not on about just random troll accounts.
Again, it isn't standing up for him to point out there are others in positions who haven't lost their jobs for stirring up racial tension. Yeah it turns out the guy is a c**t, wants to be mates with Tommy Robinson. I am just pointing out there needs to be consistency.
Go extreme "right" with your comments and you lose your job, go extreme "left" and you get a slot on a morning TV show to keep pushing views.
This is part of the issue, it's almost as if some things can't be mentioned. Do people want discussions or is it a case of "shut up and listen and what is said, goes"?
I am not disagreeing with you, Nick, I am just saying you can clearly see the photo is before the attack and she says she posted it before shetshe knew of the attack
Doesn't take 5 seconds to work it out.
Yeah, the photo was in the day but then she posted it after the attack. As she has posted racist stuff in the past, mentalists then took the 3 oranges as representing the 3 people who were reported dead in that attack by that time. That's the picture I got from it.
I enjoy the weather reports on GMTV (Good Marxist Television). Turns out it's going to be sunny again tomorrow, comrade!
There's the asian girl who loves a bit of baiting on social media. The one who made the video saying the white population of London is down but the Minority is double and "we are winning". She seems to get a slot on ITV as an expert because of it.
Now imagine if a white bloke made the same comments that if the number of black people / muslims etc was going down and white people going up and said "We are winning".
There needs to be balance, there needs to be more Dizzee Rascals, there needs to be more people like the guy who saved the bloke from getting a kicking, there needs to be more of the veterans and BLM protestors sitting having a chat in the sun. You don't see that, you see riots and anger. You see the police getting beaten.
These kinds of peaceful, non-confrontational gestures are precisely the kinds of things that the football community has been doing for days now (taking a knee, BLM on the shirts etc), yet people still complain it's being 'shoved down our throats' and start leaping to the defense of those who would try to undermine even the most token gestures of support.
It seems highly convenient to me that the only kinds of things you want to see more coverage of are the things that make you feel like everything's fine and you don't need to challenge your own way of thinking one bit.
To be fair, the Overton window in this country has steadily gone to the right, so what is seen as ‘hard left’ now may not have been 10/20/30 years ago. Literal communists mind you are as far left as they come. Maybe agree to disagree but I think in general you have to do much more to be seen as ‘far right’ than ‘far left’.
I agree with this. That kind of wording of 'winning/losing' suggests it's a battle with the intention to about gaining supremacy rather than equality.
Someone far left today would've been considered a centrist in the 70's. Certainly nowhere near radical enough to be in power.
Take the unions - the leaders are largely ignored by many as being radical but they're hardly Scargill are they?
Hopkins seems to currently be trawling the small social media apps like Telegram to try and raise funding so that she can "sue twitter". I actually thought that she had some kind of mental illness when she was coming out with her stuff, she can't be all there.
I agree to an extent, when people get angry then can end up adopting an extreme argument out of frustration. I like to think most people are more reasonable and dare I say it, centrist, in every day life.
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The same woman who constantly decries people having to fund the actions of others through taxes.....
If you can't afford to sue Twitter yourself love maybe you should've thought about being such a horrid c*** on it beforehand. Take responsibility for your own actions. Why should others fund your behaviour?
The same woman who constantly decries people having to fund the actions of others through taxes.....
If you can't afford to sue Twitter yourself love maybe you should've thought about being such a horrid c*** on it beforehand. Take responsibility for your own actions. Why should others fund your behaviour?
Discussion quite reasonable this morning chaps. No one has called anyone a c**t yet.
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