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Nick

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #841
fernandopartridge said:
They're not 'allowed to' they did it illegally. Christ almighty.
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They were allowed to to be fair. The police stood and let them.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #842
Nick said:
They were allowed to to be fair. The police stood and let them.
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I'm saying they didn't make an appointment to do it.

As for the police 'letting them' - what do you expect them to do?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #843
fernandopartridge said:
I'm saying they didn't make an appointment to do it.

As for the police 'letting them' - what do you expect them to do?
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I'd expect them to police.

Wonder how many were arrested for it? Wonder how many of the people driving with people hanging out of their cars were done for it?

It really can go too far, groups of police are being chased down and attacked in London.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #844
Ring Of Steel said:
I don't know how this works, but if it wasn't them, do they have any recourse to take action?
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No idea. I'd like to think so.
It's a cowardly thing to do so to be falsely accused and have your picture circulated wouldn't be very pleasant.

Thinking about it I'm dubious it's true. I'd imagine the police will be gathering intelligence and releasing photos in good time. Not sure how someone would find out they knew it was this pair and that the police are with holding it. That's just a guess though
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #845
I would be surprised if the BLM protesters in London did not contain some state agent provocateurs tbh
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #846
fernandopartridge said:
I would be surprised if the BLM protesters in London did not contain some state agent provocateurs tbh
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They wore sexy undies?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #847
Nick said:
I'd expect them to police.

Wonder how many were arrested for it? Wonder how many of the people driving with people hanging out of their cars were done for it?

It really can go too far, groups of police are being chased down and attacked in London.
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What does that mean? The police turned up and escorted them off the motorway didn't they? What did you expect? a baton charge?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #848
Nick said:
I'd expect them to police.

Wonder how many were arrested for it? Wonder how many of the people driving with people hanging out of their cars were done for it?
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That is policing.
Same as sometimes they decide to call an end to a high speed chase if they think their actions could increase the chance of danger to life.
I'm not going to defend people going on the motorway but in the end no one was hurt and no one died so I think the police called it right.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #849
fernandopartridge said:
I would be surprised if the BLM protesters in London did not contain some state agent provocateurs tbh
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And got a few of them pregnant by the end of the night going on.past performance
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #850
TomRad85 said:
Yes. You can't go around deplatforming people because you don't like what they say. Where would it end?

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Hopefully with fewer black people being murdered on the street
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #851
fernandopartridge said:
What does that mean? The police turned up and escorted them off the motorway didn't they? What did you expect? a baton charge?
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You stated it was illegal and they weren't allowed, surely that means they would be arrested? Surely do people for motoring offences for stopping on the motorway or having people hanging out of their cars while driving?

I am not saying a baton charge but it's pointless being illegal if you can do it and just walk away isn't it?

Standing and watching while they walk down the motorway and not doing anything during or after is allowing it.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #852
Ring Of Steel said:
Hopefully with fewer black people being murdered on the street
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Very dramatic

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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #853
Ring Of Steel said:
I don't know how this works, but if it wasn't them, do they have any recourse to take action?
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Social media is judge, jury and executioner now.

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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #854
Nick said:
You stated it was illegal and they weren't allowed, surely that means they would be arrested? Surely do people for motoring offences for stopping on the motorway or having people hanging out of their cars while driving?

I am not saying a baton charge but it's pointless being illegal if you can do it and just walk away isn't it?

Standing and watching while they walk down the motorway and not doing anything during or after is allowing it.
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I can see why the police wouldn't want to antagonise them otherwise they risk another riot, damaged cars & have the thing escalate out of control all over the place, better to have them all in the same place doing their thing without wrecking everything- were the police filming or anything? I would have thought at least a few of these people could expect an early morning knock on the door in the coming days
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #855
Ring Of Steel said:
I can see why the police wouldn't want to antagonise them otherwise they risk another riot, damaged cars & have the thing escalate out of control all over the place, better to have them all in the same place doing their thing without wrecking everything- were the police filming or anything? I would have thought at least a few of these people could expect an early morning knock on the door in the coming days
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Not saying snipe them all from bridges but letting them all walk away with no action kind of defeats the object of something being illegal.

It makes people think they can do whatever the fuck they want and are untouchable. It then attracts more people who want to act up and get away with it under the guise of a protest.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #856
Nick said:
Not saying snipe them all from bridges but letting them all walk away with no action kind of defeats the object of something being illegal.

It makes people think they can do whatever the fuck they want and are untouchable. It then attracts more people who want to act up and get away with it under the guise of a protest.
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I haven't seen it but if it was a large gathering theres no chance of getting the police numbers to deal with them all. If there were obvious ring leaders, they should have been hauled away tbh.

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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #857
Nick said:
Not saying snipe them all from bridges but letting them all walk away with no action kind of defeats the object of something being illegal.

It makes people think they can do whatever the fuck they want and are untouchable. It then attracts more people who want to act up and get away with it under the guise of a protest.
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It’s civil disobedience and a legitimate protest tactic. They’re not allowed to take a knee, they’re not allowed to march, they’re not allowed to cause disruption and you wonder why things have been escalating.

We just going to recourse to sending them to an island with the racist coppers and letting them sort it out man to man like we’re fucking teenagers again?
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #858
Is this david,ros,Brighton or ian then ffs.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #859
Liquid Gold said:
It’s civil disobedience and a legitimate protest tactic. They’re not allowed to take a knee, they’re not allowed to march, they’re not allowed to cause disruption and you wonder why things have been escalating.

We just going to recourse to sending them to an island with the racist coppers and letting them sort it out man to man like we’re fucking teenagers again?
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Doesn't the word "illegal" kind of say you aren't meant to do it?

Where does it end? Can we go and throw bikes at police horses and if anybody mentions it just make out they are racist? Maybe we can start battering the police and just allow that because it's just a protest tactic.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #860
Nick said:
Doesn't the word "illegal" kind of say you aren't meant to do it?

Where does it end? Can we go and throw bikes at police horses and if anybody mentions it just make out they are racist?
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They’ve been following the law for years and got nowhere. Hundreds of thousands of people have been out this weekend peacefully demanding an end to systemic racism. A few twats throwing stuff at police horses have been roundly condemned on all sides.

Hopefully it ends when police take concrete steps to work on the institutional racism that got us here in the first place. Whatever you think about Minneapolis disbanding their police there is no chance it would have happened without people saying enough is enough and causing some disruption.

What the poll tax riotous did was illegal, what the suffragettes didn’t was illegal, what the diggers did was illegal, we’re they all wrong or is it a case that when you push people to far and they get nothing going through the legal channels then they try and do something different.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #861
Liquid Gold said:
They’ve been following the law for years and got nowhere. Hundreds of thousands of people have been out this weekend peacefully demanding an end to systemic racism. A few twats throwing stuff at police horses have been roundly condemned on all sides.

Hopefully it ends when police take concrete steps to work on the institutional racism that got us here in the first place. Whatever you think about Minneapolis disbanding their police there is no chance it would have happened without people saying enough is enough and causing some disruption.

What the poll tax riotous did was illegal, what the suffragettes didn’t was illegal, what the diggers did was illegal, we’re they all wrong or is it a case that when you push people to far and they get nothing going through the legal channels then they try and do something different.
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Yeah all of the millennial white people walking down the M6 filming themselves and having a jolly have been pushed too far.

There's a point where it becomes lawless and gets silly and people just join in to cause trouble rather than the actual point. People jump on because they can get out of lockdown and have a day out and get away with it.

Which things that are illegal are OK to do and to label civil disobedience? Is there a checklist on which laws can be broken and which can't?
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #862
You don't have to specifically be a target of racism to oppose it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #863
ajsccfc said:
You don't have to specifically be a target of racism to oppose it.
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You can also oppose it without walking down a motorway filming yourself for likes on social media. I am sure half of them will be onto the next fashionable thing in a few weeks.

We just need a list of what suddenly stops becoming illegal.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #864
Nick said:
I'd expect them to police.

Wonder how many were arrested for it? Wonder how many of the people driving with people hanging out of their cars were done for it?

It really can go too far, groups of police are being chased down and attacked in London.
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How did these people actually get onto the M6. Did they drive on, park up, then walk? Or did they park off the motorway and walk up the slip road.
Surely the police or cameras should fine every car owner that shows that the cars are effectively abandoned. Any innocent people caught up in this would stay with their vehicles. Anyone parking on the hard shoulder and then deliberately causing a blockage should be picked up quite easily.
Its a smart motorway. Cameras are everywhere.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #865
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
How did these people actually get onto the M6. Did they drive on, park up, then walk? Or did they park off the motorway and walk up the slip road.
Surely the police or cameras should fine every car owner that shows that the cars are effectively abandoned. Any innocent people caught up in this would stay with their vehicles. Anyone parking on the hard shoulder and then deliberately causing a blockage should be picked up quite easily.
Its a smart motorway. Cameras are everywhere.
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There were some cars parked up on the slip road, there were some cars with people hanging out of them driving slowly. People on push bikes riding down the M6.

Let's hope any of the owners of vehicles involved get a letter through the door.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #866
Nick said:
You can also oppose it without walking down a motorway filming yourself for likes on social media.
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Doesn't seem as though most people are doing this for their socials really, but it's an easy way to dismiss it all
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #867
Nick said:
Yeah all of the millennial white people walking down the M6 filming themselves and having a jolly have been pushed too far.

There's a point where it becomes lawless and gets silly and people just join in to cause trouble rather than the actual point. People jump on because they can get out of lockdown and have a day out and get away with it.

Which things that are illegal are OK to do and to label civil disobedience? Is there a checklist on which laws can be broken and which can't?
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Do you think women would have won the right to vote if the suffragettes didn't break the law?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #868
ajsccfc said:
Doesn't seem as though most people are doing this for their socials really, but it's an easy way to dismiss it all
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Not most of them, not a majority. People who are filming themselves and can't keep their phones away.

I must be imagining it though and there was nobody on the m6 yesterday just there for a jolly and to cause a bit of trouble. Nobody was filming themselves and taking pictures of themselves doing it as a souvenir.

It's not much different to those people who break into shops and take things just to show their outrage.

It shouldn't distract from the cause but it does and will do more and more the more that troublemakers use it as an excuse to kick off.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #869
Nick said:
There were some cars parked up on the slip road, there were some cars with people hanging out of them driving slowly. People on push bikes riding down the M6.

Let's hope any of the owners of vehicles involved get a letter through the door.
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So a peaceful process then. Fair play to them.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #870
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Oh dear, the c**t is a cov fan
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If it is him that did it. It's a bit trial by social media at the moment but if it was then he deserves getting jailed.

Edit - and the fella whose tweet you've posted is a massive racist Dom.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #871
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Oh dear, the c**t is a cov fan
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That photo is from 2019 so if it's meant to be any kind of evidence someone's doing a stitch-up.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #872
Loving the upset gammon this morning.

Some people pulled down a statue the people of bristol hate and is only still standing because it was listed

Some people block a motorway for an hour




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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #873
skybluetony176 said:
So a peaceful process then. Fair play to them.
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Just depends if it's now OK to break the law because of it? Seems it must be and that nobody was using it as an excuse to cause trouble.

As I said, where does it end? Which things that are illegal are OK to do and what aren't?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #874
ajsccfc said:
That photo is from 2019 so if it's meant to be any kind of evidence someone's doing a stitch-up.
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Problem is, now his chances of being on the receiving end of a fair old beating has gone up exponentially, regardless.

And if he is the wrong person, that provokes a spot of revenge violence... and so on, and so on.

Life's a bit shit just atm.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 8, 2020
  • #875
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Oh dear, the c**t is a cov fan
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Do you know it was him Dim or do you just repost anything you see online?

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