Members of the local community received death threats from right wing morons over the unofficial memorial that the family didn’t want. There’s an official memorial in line with the regiments tradition and the families wishes but certain right wing elements wanted to trample on this.I lived a few streets away from where Lee Rigby was murdered at the time. The whole area was very sombre for a while and the whole community completely came together in condemnation until I think the Sunday 4 days later when the EDL turned up, had a march and smashed up the square. The racists fuckwits have never had a problem with using him to further their own agenda.
Loads of people in Bristol heading to a BLM demonstration today.
Imagine if Jeremy Corbyn had have had historically said similar things.1) he wasn't pm
2) it was 2002
3) taken out of context and actually a dig at Blair
4) has a record of fighting for rights of BAME and gay before you bring up tank top bumboys
5) has fk all to do with racist American police or the death of George Floyd
6) the guy was killed in the street like an animal by a racist fk, so can everyone please stoo saying leftie snowflake and right-wing bigot to score cheap points as uk politics have fk all to do with this.
Certain extreme right wing*Members of the local community received death threats from right wing morons over the unofficial memorial that the family didn’t want. There’s an official memorial in line with the regiments tradition and the families wishes but the right wing wanted to trample on this.
1) he wasn't pm
2) it was 2002
3) taken out of context and actually a dig at Blair
4) has a record of fighting for rights of BAME and gay before you bring up tank top bumboys
5) has fk all to do with racist American police or the death of George Floyd
6) the guy was killed in the street like an animal by a racist fk, so can everyone please stoo saying leftie snowflake and right-wing bigot to score cheap points as uk politics have fk all to do with this.
Do fk off Tony, plenty of other shitty threads for this crap that I avoid dailyImagine if Jeremy Corbyn had have had historically said similar things.
Quite right. Corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.Certain extreme right wing*
By no means all.
point proved.
So was the Coventrian correct or not?The one where I asked where the stats were from? Yes, as I started to Google them instead.
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“So the question is why are black people more likely to be arrested”
Are you serious?
Oddly as black people as a percentage commit mire crimes - it’s not difficult
Stuff I've just read is that poverty and inequality has the strongest link to crime and violent crime in the US, despite ethnicity or age. It just so happens that theres a much higher % of BAME that live in poverty and inequality.If you’re now attempting to divert away by suggesting that black people are simply just more genetically predisposed to criminality than other races then there’s not really much more that can be said, no wonder we are where we are.
Stuff I've just read is that poverty and inequality has the strongest link to crime and violent crime in the US, despite ethnicity or age. It just so happens that theres a much higher % of BAME that live in poverty and inequality.
This has nothing to do with genetics.
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Oddly as black people as a percentage commit mire crimes - it’s not difficult
Stuff I've just read is that poverty and inequality has the strongest link to crime and violent crime in the US, despite ethnicity or age. It just so happens that theres a much higher % of BAME that live in poverty and inequality.
This has nothing to do with genetics.
Plus the american justice system is one of the most corrupt in the world, and when you have institutional racism it's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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If you’re now attempting to divert away by suggesting that black people are simply just more genetically predisposed to criminality than other races then there’s not really much more that can be said, no wonder we are where we are.
No I’m not saying that at all - Im quoting a stats which are beyond dispute
Tbf I suspect Grendel would agree with the principle that there's a social inequality that causes different life chances. We may have different views on how to solve it, but I suspect he's on 'our' side on the initial premise.yes I know, however I also know you’re not stupid enough to believe they tell the whole story.
Oddly as black people as a percentage commit mire crimes - it’s not difficult
Stuff I've just read is that poverty and inequality has the strongest link to crime and violent crime in the US, despite ethnicity or age. It just so happens that theres a much higher % of BAME that live in poverty and inequality.
This has nothing to do with genetics.
Plus the american justice system is one of the most corrupt in the world, and when you have institutional racism it's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Tbf I suspect Grendel would agree with the principle that there's a social inequality that causes different life chances. We may have different views on how to solve it, but I suspect he's on 'our' side on the initial premise.
Tbf I suspect Grendel would agree with the principle that there's a social inequality that causes different life chances. We may have different views on how to solve it, but I suspect he's on 'our' side on the initial premise.
Do you have evidence regarding most corrupt in the world? There are over 200 countries in the world
So are you saying people have been framed ? That’s a hell of an accusation without any evidence.
No he wasn’t about his opening statement about the crime sheet of George FloydSo was the Coventrian correct or not?
Do you have evidence regarding most corrupt in the world? There are over 200 countries in the world
So are you saying people have been framed ? That’s a hell of an accusation without any evidence.
It's well known that innocent people (esp black and uneducated) are often given legal advice to accept a plea deal and a reduced sentence because:
a. They're often too poor to afford independent legal advice and so end up with a state appointed defence lawyer who are pushed by DA's to put that forward as the option so they get a 'case solved' in their stats.
b. Due to racial discrimination they're far more likely to be found guilty regardless if they go to court.
Some of these are minor offences but end up having a massive detriment to their ability to get work, credit etc.But some innocent people have been executed for murders they didn't commit and police have fabricated evidence - have you seen the video from the riots of the police forcing a weapon into an unarmed person's hand to get their prints on it to give them 'just cause'? Often used in cases - obviously some will be lying but that video proves it does happen.
Then when you add on the disproportionate number of black people stopped/arrested due to racial profiling you can see why it's a big problem.
In which case ask yourself why do they proportionally commit more crimes.
Here's a clue. poor people are more likely to commit crimes than affluent people.
most corrupt in the world? Who knows?
But their judicial system is deeply flawed, very corrupt and heavily weighted to discriminate against young black males.
Joe Biden played a big part in making it so, if he gets in lets hope he rights some of his wrongs.
My issue is on the manipulation of statistics.
52% of homicides in the US occur from 13% of the population. It’s the conclusion you draw from that fact that is the relevance
Poor people are more likely to be caught and prosecuted for petty crime. The state has long turned a blind eye to the crimes of the affluent.
White collar crime as an example - is that something rife in the poorer communities?Evidence please
Doesn’t the US have one of the highest incarceration levels in the world?It's well known that innocent people (esp black and uneducated) are often given legal advice to accept a plea deal and a reduced sentence because:
a. They're often too poor to afford independent legal advice and so end up with a state appointed defence lawyer who are pushed by DA's to put that forward as the option so they get a 'case solved' in their stats.
b. Due to racial discrimination they're far more likely to be found guilty regardless if they go to court.
Some of these are minor offences but end up having a massive detriment to their ability to get work, credit etc.But some innocent people have been executed for murders they didn't commit and police have fabricated evidence - have you seen the video from the riots of the police forcing a weapon into an unarmed person's hand to get their prints on it to give them 'just cause'? Often used in cases - obviously some will be lying but that video proves it does happen.
Then when you add on the disproportionate number of black people stopped/arrested due to racial profiling you can see why it's a big problem.
Where is your evidence?
That is of course those that are charged and sentenced... if you want to talk about statistical manipulation.
Evidence please
There are copious amounts of stats which show the U.K. to have the worst handling of the coronavirus in the world- also stats on how Boris is losing support fast, there you just ignore and/or reject. Yet here all of a sudden you’re all about the stats? Tribalism is now more important than values, all part of the problem.
Even on a lesser scale look how much money and resources our government puts into chasing the minority of unpaid tax compared to the majority of off unpaid tax which comes from a lesser number. In essence the government spends something like 80% of its funding chasing 20% of unpaid tax yet allows large scale tax fraud from a minority of powerful individuals and corporations of the hook.there's absolutely loads out there, I'm not going to spend my Sunday digging it up because I can't be arsed. A good starting point would be the documentary the house we live in if you can track it down.
Or just look into how a black teenager with a small amount of cannabis is treated in States where its illegal compared to a white teenager caught with cocaine.
Or go to the website of the US version of LEAP (law enforcement against prohibition), to see how it works. I can't recall what they're called. I don't think it's LEAP US though.
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