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Again, you might want to let him know if it's racist as his whole brand is based around it.
He has a clothing brand called "Beast Mode" FFS.
I am saying black people are commonly referred to as beasts or savages and that's why water buffalo remark probably comes from someone who sees black people in that way knowing or unknowingly
Like the commentary bias report that came out about black players being praised for power and pace but not intelligence
All different ways black people can suffer racism without the N word being used
I never said beast was racist term
I am talking about the water buffalo remark
And it all stems from an idea that black people are less human.
Beast mode etc are all terms used commonly. That's not an issue. I am giving you my opinion on the water buffalo remark would hurt him
He can build a brand on beast if he wa ts. Doesnt mean people have a right to refer to him as different animals though
You have a personal dislike for him that much is clear. Because he rang klopp?
Shmee No one is syaing you cannot refer to bake in those terms. But can you not see that someone like kante has such amazing positional sense but many will see him as hard working tough tsckling defensive midfielder instead at best?
No one is saying that every single case is racist. But seems silly to deny there are any problems full stop and shut down discussion
I am saying black people are commonly referred to as beasts or savages
There was no accusation. You are always in argumentivr mood. Its troll like. I got a lot of likes for saying lets talk things thru but it seems thats just not possible on the internetThat seems like an accusation of racism to be fair.
People need to start making up their minds because while it's OK for me to be called a Gammon or a Snowflake based on skin colour I have absolutely no fucking idea when I might be accused of racism for saying somebody is Hench as fuck or something equally innocent.
If the buffalo remark is so hurtful, don't refer to himself as like one then.
It really is just common sense, a lot of it.
There was no accusation. You are always in argumentivr mood. Its troll like. I got a lot of likes for saying lets talk things thru but it seems thats just not possible on the internet
I said in my previous posts that I hate terms like gammon and snowflake. So let's not assume anyone who dislikes racism to black people automatically is fine with terms like those.
Hench is very different to water buffalo. We all know that.
Akinfenwa referee to himself as a water buffalo?
Alot of it is common sense
Shame people want to take that the wrong way and eliminate shades of grey
If that's case he is silly i agreeIt isn't about taking things the wrong way.
Yes, he literally posted a picture of 2 animals referring to him and a team mate.
How can you then say "I don't want to be compared to an animal".
Just don't fucking say things like that in the first place. It's that simple.
Water buffalo is black right? It's more of a reference to him beining a beast anyway. All things black people have to put up with
Who was that big white guy that played upfront for Bradford or hull I think. Scored loads of headers. Heard him referred to as a tank or big lump. Never a "beast"
That's the oneForest Green sign journeyman striker Jon 'The Beast' Parkin from Fleetwood Town
FOREST Green boss Ady Pennock has pulled off the shock signing of former Stoke City striker Jon Parkin on a one-year deal from Fleetwood Town.www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk
Team humanity not team black or white
But how do you tease apart what’s what? I mean there are a lot of powerful black players, Baka is one that I’ve described like that. Should I stop saying that about him even though I think power and pace are some of his best attributes?
Simple as that really. A c**t is a c**t. Not a white c**t, black c**t, Chinese c**t etc.
I don't mean vagina either. Although the same probably does apply.
Simple as that really. A c**t is a c**t. Not a white c**t, black c**t, Chinese c**t etc.
I don't mean vagina either. Although the same probably does apply.
This would have been done and dusted but instead it's Akinfenwa.
But some cunts are cunts to your face and some operate in the shadows.
The first one is a lot easier to spot than the second.
And that's my whole point.
There is a lot of ambiguity but we shouldn't just dismiss something because we don't think it's racist.
The majority of us haven't lived the experience so we shouldn't judge those that have.
If we draw a clear line there will be snidey fuckers who always push the boundary but make sure they stay just the right side of it to push their hate.
Look at antisemitism, it's not all rants like Wileys a lot is more discreet and similarly that can lead to people reading meaning into comments that aren't there.
As alan dugdale has said it's all about context. The same phrase can be used in both a racist and non racist way.
With regard to this incident imagine if the person who made the remark had had the bollocks to come out and say I was taking the piss but there was no racial intent and I'm sorry it was interpreted as such. This would have been done and dusted but instead it's Akinfenwa.
I think this is the problem. There’s no real way of knowing someone’s intent.
I totally agree. Which means you can t make a definitive judgement either way.
So does everybody just stay quiet? There will be some people who want to rinse it which then detracts from people who are really suffering.
It's that thing about a good discussion, Prince William gets some footballers in a changing room to talk mental health and it's so hard hitting. When it comes to this the media publish shite like Coco Pops or black man wants to stab white man or white EDL man wants to attack mosque etc.
No. Don't stay quiet. But don't just dismiss someone's argument when you can't prove they're wrong. Especially when you haven't lived there experience.
As Shmmeee said, it's hard to know someone's intent, in this case that goes for both Akinfenwa and the fella who threw the insult.
i don't think i've ever seen such a big beast of a player in professional football as Akinfenwa. I've seen taller, wider, but never such a huge battering ram of a player.I am saying black people are commonly referred to as beasts or savages and that's why water buffalo remark probably comes from someone who sees black people in that way knowing or unknowingly
Like the commentary bias report that came out about black players being praised for power and pace but not intelligence
All different ways black people can suffer racism without the N word being used
I just don't get it. The badge has a picture of what appear to be an indian chief wearing a full headset of chieftain feather . Why on earth is that offensive to native American Indians ? Has anyone actually stated the reasons ?Exeter Chiefs Rugby club have been hunted down by the social justice gestapo and told to change their name and logo. The ended up ditching their mascot (a native american version of sky blue sam) but they've kept the rest.
When the group lobbying for the change were asked who got offended, they said they had contacted some native american people to get their opinion. Basically, they went looking for who they could find that got offended.
Shit like this dilutes the real problems.
I just don't get it. The badge has a picture of what appear to be an indian chief wearing a full headset of chieftain feather . Why on earth is that offensive to native American Indians ? Has anyone actually stated the reasons ?
The world is going bonkers - lets look for people who are easily offended, find out what offends them and then set to get it removed .
Get rid of Sky Blue Sam - a fucking fat elephant that doesn't encourage healthy eating. I'm offended. Deal with it.
I think if people respond with but baka is pacey and powerful its looking at it th wrong way
No one is saying every case is racism. But to argue that that every case is not racism is kind of sayibg that there is no problem at all
Havw no idea mateI think people are talking past each other. Both are concerned with the extremes and not trusting the “other side” to be sensible about things. How do you fix that trust?
Havw no idea mate
People just need to be normal
Like to me
BLM great cause
BLM looting and violence is pathetic
Why would someone defend or support both statements?
Just be normal!
I'm guessing they never ever worse feathers .
Yes he did now you mention it . He was way ahead of his time. Be offended everyone .I'm sure Onye Igwe did actually suggest that during his glorious spell with us
I read today on the BBC red button that the police have to use force more frequently when arresting black people (didn't specify which group) than white . One officer (didn't state who or rank) said it was because black people are more violent when arrested. You'd think that that would be the only possible reason, wouldn't you ?I am saying black people are commonly referred to as beasts or savages and that's why water buffalo remark probably comes from someone who sees black people in that way knowing or unknowingly
Like the commentary bias report that came out about black players being praised for power and pace but not intelligence
All different ways black people can suffer racism without the N word being used
I read today on the BBC red button that the police have to use force more frequently when arresting black people (didn't specify which group) than white . One officer (didn't state who or rank) said it was because black people are more violent when arrested. You'd think that that would be the only possible reason, wouldn't you ?
I'm just putting it out there. Who's to blame for that ? Any thoughts anyone ?
If they have stats to back it up I don't see an issue with itI read today on the BBC red button that the police have to use force more frequently when arresting black people (didn't specify which group) than white . One officer (didn't state who or rank) said it was because black people are more violent when arrested. You'd think that that would be the only possible reason, wouldn't you ?
I'm just putting it out there. Who's to blame for that ? Any thoughts anyone ?
The police will be to blameTony ROS and David will be sharing their collective brain cell before responding
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