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This is a weird one. Seattle are getting an NHL team and this week they have announced the name, they will be Seattle Kraken.
Predictably it wasn't long before their fans were being referred to as Krak Heads and the arena as the Krak Den. However this seems to have caused outrage in some quarters as apparently that's racist. What am I missing?
This is a weird one. Seattle are getting an NHL team and this week they have announced the name, they will be Seattle Kraken.
Predictably it wasn't long before their fans were being referred to as Krak Heads and the arena as the Krak Den. However this seems to have caused outrage in some quarters as apparently that's racist. What am I missing?
Absolute nob. Compared Jews to the kkk. Way to generalise. I despair.Looks like Wiley has been having some sort of episode on Twitter against Jewish people.
His management should have got his Twitter blocked.
I dare say because the lad was white, and a football supporter, it won't get much air time on the nationals. However, if the copper had his knee on his neck, it should , in keeping with the London incident, where a violent scumbag also resisted arrest but which also promoted hysterics because of his colour.
Absolute nob. Compared Jews to the kkk. Way to generalise. I despair.
You’re really concerning yourself with who does the voice of a talking water buffalo, I’ll just say that again, a talking water buffalo in a cartoon, I’ll say that again, a cartoon? I’ve seen some desperate attempts at trolling before but the use of a talking animal in a cartoon has to take 1st prize #desperateJust touching on the Akinfenwa issue again.
Zootropolis is on bbc1 right now. Animation.
The chief of police is a big fat water buffalo. Voice appears to be Idris Elba or at least that of a black actor.
Anyone offended by that ?
Idris Elba or the actor doing the voice clearly wasn't .
Trolling who ?You’re really concerning yourself with who does the voice of a talking water buffalo, I’ll just say that again, a talking water buffalo in a cartoon, I’ll say that again, a cartoon? I’ve seen some desperate attempts at trolling before but the use of a talking animal in a cartoon has to take 1st prize #desperate
So you’re suggesting that Zootropolis contains subliminal far right messages then and they’ve tricked a black man into playing along with it. #superdesperateTrolling who ?
As for this hashtag desparate crap, grow up.
If you look back to the 1930's a certain group in central Europe used cartoon posters as propaganda. So just for the record, cartoons are actually relevant. And don't try the old trick of saying I'm comparing this animated film to the Nazi propoganda machine because I'm not. It's just that you're talking out of you're arse.
Personally I couldn't care less about the voice of black actor over a water buffalo. The vast majority of people probably couldn't care less. However, some might. Young kids watch these films and is it right to put a black voice over a large black buffalo ? Young kids might just associate large black buffalo with large black people. These kids shouldn't have that seed planted in their minds in the first place .
I might be playing devil's advocate but for me having a black voice over a large buffalo doesn't fit the current climate. There should be an outrage about this surely ?
Do yourself a favour and look up Nazi propoganda posters. It didn't matter because they're just cartoons.
The water buffalo in zootropolis represents only a water buffalo, nothing else.Think he means that if a water buffalo was a racist term then somebody would have pointed out when they use it to picture a black character.
It's that thing again, people will decide themselves if they think something is racist or not.
Well he's in a police uniform for starters. He is also large and played by a man who is black.The water buffalo in zootropolis represents only a water buffalo, nothing else.
Hang on Tony - putting aside the story about that footballer Akinfenwa being linked to a water buffalo and how racist it was, wasn't there also an outcry because they wanted black actors playing black people in cartoons (eg Simpsons?).You’re really concerning yourself with who does the voice of a talking water buffalo, I’ll just say that again, a talking water buffalo in a cartoon, I’ll say that again, a cartoon? I’ve seen some desperate attempts at trolling before but the use of a talking animal in a cartoon has to take 1st prize #desperate
I've said nothing of the sort. The usual labelling far right/ far left nonsense from you .So you’re suggesting that Zootropolis contains subliminal far right messages then and they’ve tricked a black man into playing along with it. #superdesperate
So is the issue that a black English man of Sierra Leonean and Ghanaian parents is playing an animal that’s native home is Asia?Hang on Tony - putting aside the story about that footballer Akinfenwa being linked to a water buffalo and how racist it was, wasn't there also an outcry because they wanted black actors playing black people in cartoons (eg Simpsons?).
I think you need to write to Matt Groening, tell him it's OK and we want the bloke playing Apu not to hand his cards in.
You brought up Nazis into a “discussion” about cartoons not me.I've said nothing of the sort. The usual labelling far right/ far left nonsense from you .
Its funny that the likes of you were up in arms on behalf of Akinfenwa when he was likened to a fat water buffalo but on this occasion it's okay .
As for tricking Idris Elba into doing the voice why would they and how would they ?
Idris Elba clearly didn't have an issue with it . He clearly doesn't think that a water buffalo is a race issue, though a while back many on here did.
Does it matter where either are from ?So is the issue that a black English man of Sierra Leonean and Ghanaian parents is playing an animal that’s native home is Asia?
Who's compared Idris Elba to a water buffalo ?You brought up Nazis into a “discussion” about cartoons not me.
I didn’t actually pass comment either way on the comments about Akinfenwa.
Idris Elba wasn’t being compared to a water buffalo, he was voicing a fictional character in a cartoon of a talking buffalo. Akinfenwa is a real person who was compared to a water buffalo. You can see the difference I’m...
... no. Wait. I’ve just remembered who I’m talking to.
You’re dismissing your own argument with your first line.Who's compared Idris Elba to a water buffalo ?
You clearly didn't know that the Nazis used cartoons effectively as propoganda. I thought everyone knew that
...no wait. I've just remembered who I'm talking to.
Apparently Akinfenwa has lost the right to be insulted at being compared to a water buffalo because a different black man chose to voice a talking water buffalo in a cartoon.Who's arguing what now?
Who's arguing what now?
Who's compared Idris Elba to a water buffalo ?
You clearly didn't know that the Nazis used cartoons effectively as propoganda. I thought everyone knew that
...no wait. I've just remembered who I'm talking to.
Would you be offended if someone described you as a paedophile because Kevin Bacon played one in a film so if, as a white man, he's ok with it what right do you have to be offended?
Why Kevin Bacon ? I don't look like Kevin Bacon.Would you be offended if someone described you as a paedophile because Kevin Bacon played one in a film so if, as a white man, he's ok with it what right do you have to be offended?
I don't think 7 year old kids would watch Kevin Bacon as a paedophile do you ?Would you be offended if someone described you as a paedophile because Kevin Bacon played one in a film so if, as a white man, he's ok with it what right do you have to be offended?
Akinfenwa also compared himself to one didn't he?Apparently Akinfenwa has lost the right to be insulted at being compared to a water buffalo because a different black man chose to voice a talking water buffalo in a cartoon.
Why Kevin Bacon ? I don't look like Kevin Bacon.
I don't think 7 year old kids would watch Kevin Bacon as a paedophile do you ?
However, if they met him the next day having watched the film they might believe he was a paedophile.
Would you ?
What the hell has that got to do with it?
Your argument was Akinfenwa had no right to consider being called a water buffalo offensive because another black man was content enough to voice one in a film.
So I'm saying you'd have no right to consider being called a paedo offensive because another white man was content enough to play one in a film.
Isn't that missing the point that Akinfenwa himself compared himself to a Water Buffalo?
Some black people refer to other black people by the “N” word. Are you suggesting that it has the same connotation when a member of the far right uses the “N” word to address a black person.Isn't that missing the point that Akinfenwa himself compared himself to a Water Buffalo?
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