Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Haha. Funny. In the same way as Craig Bellamy was largely disliked when he left City on the grounds that he was Welsh.
I’ll just ask one more time- so you don’t think there is any racism there?
Haha. Funny. In the same way as Craig Bellamy was largely disliked when he left City on the grounds that he was Welsh.I’ll just ask one more time- so you don’t think there is any racism there?
It's hardly the same, think about context.
One more time ? Or else what ?
The photo is not himself referring to himself in a derogatory manner as a fat water buffalo repeatedly. So it's not the same.So he can call himself it, but a white person does, it's immediately racist?
Oh I see. In that case perhaps relatives would have a tattoo of a large hammer or rope or whatever Sutcliffe used. Either way, it's unhinged.Is he? Where is the evidence for that? As for your tattoo analogy, he'd have to have the face of the person who murdered his father tattooed on him for it to make sense.
So what have you done about it ? Just constantly slagging those off who don't quite agree with you .Or else I won’t ask again, which I think was reasonably obvious. Here’s a guy that’s actually had monkey chants aimed at him, and you still can’t / won’t see that perhaps there is a bigger problem here than is evidenced by random videos of cyclists on Twitter.
Maybe if there was a rope or hammer culture that they'd vowed not to get involved in but obviously that isn't a thing so it still doesn't work.Oh I see. In that case perhaps relatives would have a tattoo of a large hammer or rope or whatever Sutcliffe used. Either way, it's unhinged.
Absolutely spot on with this. I don't believe the individual who made the remark necessarily knew the colour of a buffalo in the first place.As foir the Akinfenwa schizzle. Personally I'm not convinced it's racist, I'm not convinced whoever said it thought it racist (although the choice of water buffalo for an insult is interesting).
If, however, the person it was directed to said it was racist, I'd think of another insult for next time, rather than trying to justify why I should use it again.
If your relative was murdered with a machete, would you consider having a machete tattooed in response ? Or gun , crossbow etc .Maybe if there was a rope or hammer culture that they'd vowed not to get involved in but obviously that isn't a thing so it still doesn't work.
The photo is not himself referring to himself in a derogatory manner as a fat water buffalo repeatedly. So it's not the same.
It was a great excuse wasn't it ? Is it a " cultural" thing do you think ?Maybe if there was a rope or hammer culture that they'd vowed not to get involved in but obviously that isn't a thing so it still doesn't work.
So what have you done about it ? Just constantly slagging those off who don't quite agree with you .
What have you actually done apart from rant on here ? Nothing I assume. Shame on you.
Notice the Met chief has apologied to the lady for any distress during the stop. Thats good, if the police need taking to task about how and when they handcuff people, all for that. Anything that makes sure we are all are dealt with professionally, safely and respectfully when we interact with them should be policy.As they say they drove a bit further down the road and pulled into a parking space when safe to do so it's the same road.
Still any excuse to blame the black folk
But here's a thread where it's being justified?Absolutely spot on with this. I don't believe the individual who made the remark necessarily knew the colour of a buffalo in the first place.
However, if the same remark was to be made now, knowing how it was taken first time, it could be deemed different.
Fortunately I have no idea what I'd do in that situation.If your relative was murdered with a machete, would you consider having a machete tattooed in response ? Or gun , crossbow etc .
It was a great excuse wasn't it ? Is it a " cultural" thing do you think ?
In other words ,no. You've done nothing.lol, your response is typical, expected and kind of sums up a very big part of the problem. Quick to write things off as “playing the race card” (and some of it is indeed nonsense, no argument there), however utterly unable/ unwilling to see racism when it’s right there in front of your face.
Context. Keep up .Why are you so offended at his tattoos? I can’t stand tattoos but I don’t get wound up at what other people want to do to themselves
In other words ,no. You've done nothing.
You're response is typical, expected and sums up a very big part of the problem . All gesture, all pointing the finger but doing nothing about it. Wanting to be seen as part of the solution by slagging off everyone who doesn't want to follow the crowd whilst doing sweet nothing. Well done .
Me neither, but I doubt if ever get a copy of the murder weapon engraved on me.Fortunately I have no idea what I'd do in that situation.
I'm going to cry.i expected better.Well actually I’d say that in other words I don’t owe you any explanations of myself when you are presenting yourself in such a bad way.
Context. Keep up .
I don't see him as needing an excuse. Why the "cultural"?It was a great excuse wasn't it ? Is it a " cultural" thing do you think ?
I couldn't actually give a toss about raheem sterling suffice it to say he's unhinged.Ah, I see. So to sum up, you are offended at Sterling deciding to get a tattoo of a gun, but not offended when he gets monkey chants aimed at him. I think we’re done here.
I really don't know when I've ever heard of a buffalo being used as a racist term. I just don't. I think if I'd have said it to a mate who was built like a battering ram and he'd taken offence on grounds of colour I'd have been genuinely shocked and apologised.But here's a thread where it's being justified?
I'd have thought the natural reaction is to say 'I didn't think that was racist - ooops' isn't it, if a black man says they think it's racist? It's not like there aren't plenty of other animals you can use for an insult. A blubbery walrus might be a start! If that doesn't work, how about an asthmatic polar bear?
I can see the connotations, why a water buffalo is an... odd choice for an insult. There can be many things I say that I may unwittingly cause offence, but unless it's utterly bonkers, with no grounding in any kind of logic, then it's no great shakes to just move on, and vary my behaviour. If Akinfenwa thinks it's racist, it's better, surely, to ask why he might, rather than jump on him for saying it? Even the person who posted it is happy to ask why it might be.
I dunno, maybe I've got it wrong, and everybody *is* asking why it might be racist, so they can't use it themselves anymore! I'd have thought the choice of animal in terms of appearance and origin (a lazy generalisation of from being 'over there' is sufficient) is enough to at least understand why he might find it racist.
I may not, but I'm not convinced I really matter in this particular judgement.
And I can't argue with that.I really don't know when I've ever heard of a buffalo being used as a racist term. I just don't. I think if I'd have said it to a mate who was built like a battering ram and he'd taken offence on grounds of colour I'd have been genuinely shocked and apologised.
If I used it again towards him that's being antagonistic and this time I'm aware that I'm probably going to offend him in a way that is racist. So I don't do it.
Why does Raheem Stirling wind up the gammon so much? I’ve got a mate who turned up once absolutely fuming at the guy for something. Can’t remember what. Same bloke was as annoyed as ADM about the tattoo as well. Weird.
It’s not even “lol shit tattoo”, people genuinely worked up about it. Very strange.
Why does Raheem Stirling wind up the gammon so much? I’ve got a mate who turned up once absolutely fuming at the guy for something. Can’t remember what. Same bloke was as annoyed as ADM about the tattoo as well. Weird.
It’s not even “lol shit tattoo”, people genuinely worked up about it. Very strange.
Complete bollocks on both counts. So how come I have all the time in the world for the likes of Mo Salah , Troy Deeney , Vincent Company and have great regard for Dion Dublin etc ? They're black or of mixed race or not "white" . How do you work that out?They don't like to see young, working class men with money but they fucking hate seeing young, working class black and mixed race men with it.
Complete bollocks on both counts. So how come I have all the time in the world for the likes of Mo Salah , Troy Deeney , Vincent Company and have great regard for Dion Dublin etc ? They're black or of mixed race or not "white" . How do you work that out?
Is it possible to dislike someone of black ethnicity on the grounds of something other than race ? You don't seem to think so. I can dislike Craig Bellend for a host of reasons but if he's a black person i must be racist.
Oh dear .
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