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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #561
I see Bart Oosterveld from the powerful American think tank the Atlantic Council has stated on C4 news that talks have been going on behind closed doors on the NHS as part of a US/U.K. trade deal.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #562
Ian1779 said:
I thought I was Polly Toynbee yesterday.... But then you’re never one for consistency...
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whereas you are consistently wrong
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #563
shmmeee said:
All this Brexit delay is a result of the Tories wanting to own the Brexit vote. If they’d have reached out at the start for a cross party consensus they’d have been out by the original date. Instead they built something a majority couldn’t support with the hope of bullying those on their own side into accepting it and painting Labour as “stopping Brexit”.
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All this Brexit delay has been caused by those not accepting the result and doing what they can to stall it in the hope of stopping it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #564
Astute said:
All this Brexit delay has been caused by those not accepting the result and doing what they can to stall it in the hope of stopping it.
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Nonsense. There’s been a majority in Parliament for a sensible Brexit from day one. Don’t believe the crap you read in the papers.
 
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Astute

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #565
shmmeee said:
Nonsense. There’s been a majority in Parliament for a sensible Brexit from day one. Don’t believe the crap you read in the papers.
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Read crap in what papers?

Are you saying that Brexit hasn't taken so long because of all those who don't want it to happen? Nothing to do with parliament not wanting it to go through and voting against everything?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #566
Grendel said:
in the subject I discussed average growth 0.1% anyone who worked in a job for a year was 4.1% - what does that tell you about the methodology?
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It tells me that you've cherry picked your data to exclude those most likely to be poorly paid. What about casuals? short-term contracts? temps? or are these people not worthy of inclusion in your Victorian mindset?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #567
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It tells me that you've cherry picked your data to exclude those most likely to be poorly paid. What about casuals? short-term contracts? temps? or are these people not worthy of inclusion in your Victorian mindset?
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So short term Eu casuals who increased their wages are benefitting even if they lower the average?
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #568
shmmeee said:
Nonsense. There’s been a majority in Parliament for a sensible Brexit from day one. Don’t believe the crap you read in the papers.
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Yes the Labour Brexit that ties us to the EU and all there rules and regs indefinately. Another patronising post accusing people they can't understand basic facts.
When will Corbyn come out about his plans for Defence, which will definately make good reading, but no doubt Shmmee will accuse others of not being able to understand.
If labour get in, which is remote I know, this country is fucked.
 
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The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #569
No doubt he'll be on an upcoming Hezbullah march quite soon the fucking traitor
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #570
Astute said:
Read crap in what papers?

Are you saying that Brexit hasn't taken so long because of all those who don't want it to happen? Nothing to do with parliament not wanting it to go through and voting against everything?
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Boris just got a vote passed on his deal and then pulled it having previously voted against a Brexit deal. Who exactly is delaying Brexit?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #571
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Yes the Labour Brexit that ties us to the EU and all there rules and regs indefinately. Another patronising post accusing people they can't understand basic facts.
When will Corbyn come out about his plans for Defence, which will definately make good reading, but no doubt Shmmee will accuse others of not being able to understand.
If labour get in, which is remote I know, this country is fucked.
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There’s nothing more desperate than some middle aged gammons hankering to nuke somewhere.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #572
Yes let them just invade.
No service person will vote for Traitor Corbyn, as his master plan is to disband the armed forces and in place he will just to talk to possible enemies, yes he actually said this, he will talk any future enemies from taking us over, or taking over our influences abroad.
Just 75 years ago we were on the brink of invasion, but thank the lord we had someone with the balls to stand up to them, Traitor Corbyn would have talked to them and politely said please don't.
Not forgetting we won't have any defence under him as he wants to disband the armed forces.
We will be the laughing stock of the world if that Traitor gets in.
Last thought of the night, who can imagine Diane Abbott as our foreign secretary , she can't do even basic maths or even read from an auto cue, another laughable scenario
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #573
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Traitor Corbyn
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Ridiculous.

The Reverend Skyblue said:
who can imagine Diane Abbott as our foreign secretary
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Well we had Johnson, so we can't stoop lower. Given his achievements in ensuring British nationals got locked up for longer, and displaying some casual racism, it proved to be a fine audition for the top job, seemingly.

Therefore, I can only conclude if Johnson is considered a benchmark, then I'd be honoured not to be mentioned in the same breath as him.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #574
skybluetony176 said:
Boris just got a vote passed on his deal and then pulled it having previously voted against a Brexit deal. Who exactly is delaying Brexit?
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The ERG, who voted against May's deal repeatedly, while Ken Fucking Clarke voted for it?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #575
Ian1779 said:
There’s nothing more desperate than some middle aged gammons hankering to nuke somewhere.
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Unless they are eating a hamburger in McDonald’s in Warrington - Then it’s fit the cause isn’t it Ian
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #576
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Yes let them just invade.
No service person will vote for Traitor Corbyn, as his master plan is to disband the armed forces and in place he will just to talk to possible enemies, yes he actually said this, he will talk any future enemies from taking us over, or taking over our influences abroad.
Just 75 years ago we were on the brink of invasion, but thank the lord we had someone with the balls to stand up to them, Traitor Corbyn would have talked to them and politely said please don't.
Not forgetting we won't have any defence under him as he wants to disband the armed forces.
We will be the laughing stock of the world if that Traitor gets in.
Last thought of the night, who can imagine Diane Abbott as our foreign secretary , she can't do even basic maths or even read from an auto cue, another laughable scenario
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Wow - you are literally a walking Daily Mail editorial.

1. I’m pretty sure the thousands of ex-service men and women that have been abandoned by the state, left homeless and destitute will not agree with you.

2. This is the 21st century - our biggest threat is from terrorism and cyber crime. Explain exactly how we will be ‘invaded’? Or are you expecting ISIS to rock up in longboats?

3. Maybe you should be asking the current government why they have repeatedly underfunded the armed forces in the last 9 years.

4. Traitor? Do us all a favour. Do you actually have any evidence to back up your sensationalist claim?

5. Diane Abbott would actually be Home Secretary - if you are going to insult her for being stupid... at least have the intelligence to get your facts right up front.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #577
Grendel said:
Unless they are eating a hamburger in McDonald’s in Warrington - Then it’s fit the cause isn’t it Ian
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Nukes in Warrington?
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #578
Ian1779 said:
Wow - you are literally a walking Daily Mail editorial.

1. I’m pretty sure the thousands of ex-service men and women that have been abandoned by the state, left homeless and destitute will not agree with you.

2. This is the 21st century - our biggest threat is from terrorism and cyber crime. Explain exactly how we will be ‘invaded’? Or are you expecting ISIS to rock up in longboats?

3. Maybe you should be asking the current government why they have repeatedly underfunded the armed forces in the last 9 years.

4. Traitor? Do us all a favour.

5. Diane Abbott would actually be Home Secretary - if you are going to insult her for being stupid... at least have the intelligence to get your facts right up front.
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Yet another patronising post. I've never ever read the Daily Mail. Just keep accusing people of things they've never done just because we have different views.
He's supported the IRA and been on terrorist marches, fact. Hence he's a Traitor, and the most serious threat to this country.
OK he'll give into terroists then, if you want me to be more specific.
Do you want me to provide his pro IRA posts from the late seventies/eighties. He is a coward and Traitor.
As for Abbott, ok can you imagine the humiliation of her being Home Secretary. Laughing stock full stop.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #579
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Yes the Labour Brexit that ties us to the EU and all there rules and regs indefinately. Another patronising post accusing people they can't understand basic facts.
When will Corbyn come out about his plans for Defence, which will definately make good reading, but no doubt Shmmee will accuse others of not being able to understand.
If labour get in, which is remote I know, this country is fucked.
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They're letting you vote on it
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #580
Ian1779 said:
Wow - you are literally a walking Daily Mail editorial.

1. I’m pretty sure the thousands of ex-service men and women that have been abandoned by the state, left homeless and destitute will not agree with you.

2. This is the 21st century - our biggest threat is from terrorism and cyber crime. Explain exactly how we will be ‘invaded’? Or are you expecting ISIS to rock up in longboats?

3. Maybe you should be asking the current government why they have repeatedly underfunded the armed forces in the last 9 years.

4. Traitor? Do us all a favour. Do you actually have any evidence to back up your sensationalist claim?

5. Diane Abbott would actually be Home Secretary - if you are going to insult her for being stupid... at least have the intelligence to get your facts right up front.
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Point 2 just 75 years ago they never thought we had any threat also, how did that work out
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #581
fernandopartridge said:
They're letting you vote on it
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Patronising post number 4
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #582
fernandopartridge said:
They're letting you vote on it
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You are the most ignorant patronising twat on this board. You're a know it all who actually knows sweet FA.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #583
Innocent victims of the IRA are being mocked by Ian1779. Can't he remember Warrington and the support Traitor Corbyn gave them before this atrocity
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #584
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Point 2 just 75 years ago they never thought we had any threat also, how did that work out
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The world has moved on rather a lot in 75 years. The threats are different now. Remember how we waded into the last Iraq war and contributed to the inception of ISIS?
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #585
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Innocent victims of the IRA are being mocked by Ian1779. Can't he remember Warrington and the support Traitor Corbyn gave them before this atrocity
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Seriously have a word with yourself. I was making a clear point about nuclear weapons... then Grendel did his usual nonsense of side swiping with information irrelevant to the point.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #586
Ian1779 said:
The world has moved on rather a lot in 75 years. The threats are different now. Remember how we waded into the last Iraq war and contributed to the inception of ISIS?
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Yes of course I remember, under the last labour government. Lives lost for a pointless cause, he never ever had WOMD. But Blair believed everything he was told.
Mentioning Warrington was a major mistake and you know it.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #587
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Yes of course I remember, under the last labour government. Lives lost for a pointless cause, he never ever had WOMD. But Blair believed everything he was told.
Mentioning Warrington was a major mistake and you know it.
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I didn’t mention Warrington did I?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #588
The Reverend Skyblue said:
No service person will vote for Traitor Corbyn, as his master plan is to disband the armed forces
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Didn't recall this being a Labour policy so checked their 2017 manifesto, as the 2019 one isn't published yet. That has increased spending on the armed forces and renewal of the Trident nuclear deterrent as part of their stated policy. Where have you seen it stated by Labour that their plan is to disband the armed forces?
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #589
Ian1779 said:
Nukes in Warrington?
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No you didn't did you
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #590
chiefdave said:
Didn't recall this being a Labour policy so checked their 2017 manifesto, as the 2019 one isn't published yet. That has increased spending on the armed forces and renewal of the Trident nuclear deterrent as part of their stated policy. Where have you seen it stated by Labour that their plan is to disband the armed forces?
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Listen to his latest speeches, I'll get a link if you want. He wants to talk to potential enemies. Give me ten and I'll get the link
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #591
The Reverend Skyblue said:
No you didn't did you
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again - I never brought it into the conversation, as I was responding to you... not the master of deflection.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #592
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Listen to his latest speeches, I'll get a link if you want. He wants to talk to potential enemies. Give me ten and I'll get the link
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That would be handy. Would have expected Corbyn stating that Labour policy was to disband the armed forces to be huge headline news but google doesn't throw anything up.
 
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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #593
The Reverend Skyblue said:
He wants to talk to potential enemies.
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The Bastard!
 
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SBAndy

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  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #594
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Yes let them just invade.
No service person will vote for Traitor Corbyn, as his master plan is to disband the armed forces and in place he will just to talk to possible enemies, yes he actually said this, he will talk any future enemies from taking us over, or taking over our influences abroad.
Just 75 years ago we were on the brink of invasion, but thank the lord we had someone with the balls to stand up to them, Traitor Corbyn would have talked to them and politely said please don't.
Not forgetting we won't have any defence under him as he wants to disband the armed forces.
We will be the laughing stock of the world if that Traitor gets in.
Last thought of the night, who can imagine Diane Abbott as our foreign secretary , she can't do even basic maths or even read from an auto cue, another laughable scenario
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Where do you start with that? I take it you’re ex-forces?
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 1, 2019
  • #595
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Listen to his latest speeches, I'll get a link if you want. He wants to talk to potential enemies. Give me ten and I'll get the link
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Come on, chap. You promised a link in ten minutes. It’s almost twenty now. Bet Diane Abbott can tell the time.
 
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