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Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (2 Viewers)

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MalcSB

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,186
torchomatic said:
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Bit off from Sky tarring all football fans with the same brush "many of them align themselves with the far-right".
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Perhaps Sky should stop hijacking football matches if they don’t approve of the clientele.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,187
torchomatic said:
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Bit off from Sky tarring all football fans with the same brush "many of them align themselves with the far-right".
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Pathetic from the police to suggest that
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,188
MalcSB said:
Perhaps Sky should stop hijacking football matches if they don’t approve of the clientele.
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It did say convicted didn't it, facial recognition is going to be a bugger at some point in the near future, but it's nothing to fear!
Can't even unlock my phone half the time,or other such uses!
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,189
pusbccfc said:
Pathetic from the police to suggest that
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I think that was the Sky reporter, not the police.
 

JAM See

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,190
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Fundamentally the problems are not of skin colour, although at the moment anyone of any colour is fair game it appears.
The realm problem is one of religeon, one religion in particular.
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Is that the Catholics from my youth, the Sikhs, or is there a new confected moral panic?
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,191
torchomatic said:
I think that was the Sky reporter, not the police.
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yeah in the video it's clear that's his thoughts not a queue from the police
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,192
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Fundamentally the problems are not of skin colour, although at the moment anyone of any colour is fair game it appears.
The realm problem is one of religeon, one religion in particular.
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I was looking at the Chronicle which is a regional newspaper for the north east

Two men locked up for eight and a half years for raping woman

Harley King and Ben Jennings were sentenced at Shrewsbury Crown Court after being convicted by a jury
www.chroniclelive.co.uk

Vile beast jailed for 17 years after violent sexual attack on woman

Liam Maughan, 38, has been jailed for 17 years for a prolonged attack carried out his victim
www.chroniclelive.co.uk

Rapist jailed after luring underage girl to Newcastle hotel for sex

Samuel Marshall, 22, brought a young girl back to a hotel room and raped her
www.chroniclelive.co.uk

Paedophile who sexually abused and strangled teen caged for 10 years

Karl Smith denied the offences but was found guilty by a jury after a trial
www.chroniclelive.co.uk

All in the space of a couple of weeks, I'm sure the lads from Sunderland will be along any minute to call out the community leaders
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,193
Nick said:
Genuinely, how many mosques have been attacked other than Southport? I know hotels have which is targeted but I'm just trying to see how much is misinformation to get Muslims fired up.
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They know what they'll get if they attack a mosque , perhaps.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,194
torchomatic said:
I think that was the Sky reporter, not the police.
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Ah fair enough. Makes it slightly better. The media will always think football fans are thugs.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,195
duffer said:
Then why are we talking about Muslim extremism at exactly the same time as there are attacks on mosques going on?
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Because the yougov poll says people are more worried about right wing extremism than Islamic extremism , which is fucking nuts when you consider one has killed a couple hundred in the last 15 or so years in the UK.

That's it
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,196
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
They know what they'll get if they attack a mosque , perhaps.
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Yeah I agree but other than the southport one where the wall was smashed, has it happened anywhere else?

(Again I'm not saying it hasn't, genuinely don't know).
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,197
torchomatic said:
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Bit off from Sky tarring all football fans with the same brush "many of them align themselves with the far-right".
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And anybody who's been prepared to tar whole groups based on one characteristic ought to consider how they feel when the boot is on the other foot.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,198
Evo1883 said:
Because the yougov poll says people are more worried about right wing extremism than Islamic extremism , which is fucking nuts when you consider one has killed a couple hundred in the last 15 or so years in the UK.

That's it
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nuts? people are reacting to what is happening now

the polling dates were the 5th and 6th of August, of cause they are currently more worried about right wing extremism
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,199
David O'Day said:
nuts? people are reacting to what is happening now

the polling dates were the 5th and 6th of August, of cause they are currently more worried about right wing extremism
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Fair
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,200
Nick said:
Yeah I agree but other than the southport one where the wall was smashed, has it happened anywhere else?

(Again I'm not saying it hasn't, genuinely don't know).
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Neither do I. Clearly though the Muslim community think it's targeted at them. Have I got this all wrong then ?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,201
JAM See said:
Is that the Catholics from my youth, the Sikhs, or is there a new confected moral panic?
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Yes, all of them probably.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,202
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Neither do I. Clearly though the Muslim community think it's targeted at them. Have I got this all wrong then ?
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I'm not saying they are wrong at all or its made up but just asking how many mosques have been attacked? The police are telling them that the edl are coming.

I know obviously people have targeted hotels (which I'd say is just as bad as it's clear why).

I have no doubt that the Muslim community are being misled too. It really does sound as if "the edl are coming" has been drummed in when you watch / hear the videos.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,203
Deleted member 5849 said:
And anybody who's been prepared to tar whole groups based on one characteristic ought to consider how they feel when the boot is on the other foot.
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That last bit was said by Jessie in Toy Story 2 , apparently.
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,204
torchomatic said:
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Bit off from Sky tarring all football fans with the same brush "many of them align themselves with the far-right".
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Sorry missed that you'd already this, the same thing I quoted after. Wound me up more than it should have but really not on. I'm sure they'd prefer it if we did all fit the stereotype.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,205
2000 anti-facists in Bristol.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,206
Nick said:
I'm not saying they are wrong at all or its made up but just asking how many mosques have been attacked? The police are telling them that the edl are coming.

I know obviously people have targeted hotels (which I'd say is just as bad as it's clear why).

I have no doubt that the Muslim community are being misled too. It really does sound as if "the edl are coming" has been drummed in when you watch / hear the videos.
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I don't know much about the religeon breakdown of those who are being housed in hotels etc. Not the foggiest. Perhaps that plays a part.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,207
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I don't know much about the religeon breakdown of those who are being housed in hotels etc. Not the foggiest. Perhaps that plays a part.
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No. @duffer saying "mosques are being attacked" got me thinking.

I have no doubt there's a lot of racist language being shouted on the streets and the hotels being targeted. (Which is of course wrong).

You also had that guy making up that a Muslim woman had been attacked by acid.

Otis said there was a fake video of apparently Muslim men with machetes attacking somebody too but haven't seen it.

Again. I'm not denying things have happened im just asking where and how much is misinformation.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,208
seems a few of the fash did actually turn up in brighton, massively outnumbered though

silly of them

 

Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,209
Have the thousands of hardened "EDL" turned up anywhere yet?

Sky news are literally search for anybody with a union jack now
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,210
Nick said:
No. @duffer saying "mosques are being attacked" got me thinking.

I have no doubt there's a lot of racist language being shouted on the streets and the hotels being targeted. (Which is of course wrong).

You also had that guy making up that a Muslim woman had been attacked by acid.

Otis said there was a fake video of apparently Muslim men with machetes attacking somebody too but haven't seen it.

Again. I'm not denying things have happened im just asking where and how much is misinformation.
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All I've seen is footage on mainstream is of a bloke at a pub who hid under a table being beaten up by Muslims . I've seen a large group of Muslims shouting " God is Great" standing at the end of a street and another group on the " hunt" for white extremists.
That's all I've seen but clearly there is a lot of fear amongst them . But clearly they're not main target of white extremists from what we're being told.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,211
Nick said:
Have the thousands of hardened "EDL" turned up anywhere yet?

Sky news are literally search for anybody with a union jack now
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doesn't seem so, they are a no show in brum as well

hopefully it stays like this and everyone can go home peacefully and it all fizzles out now
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,212
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
All I've seen is footage on mainstream is of a bloke at a pub who hid under a table being beaten up by Muslims . I've seen a large group of Muslims shouting " God is Great" standing at the end of a street and another group on the " hunt" for white extremists.
That's all I've seen but clearly there is a lot of fear amongst them . But clearly they're not main target of white extremists from what we're being told.
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No, hotels have been set on fire and fire mosque was damaged in Southport.

Loads of shops looted and police attacked.

This whole thing seems very strange. Today with the media and police.

With Muslim blokes being adamant that the "edl" are coming.
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,213
Nick said:
Have the thousands of hardened "EDL" turned up anywhere yet?

Sky news are literally search for anybody with a union jack now
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All round Gynns for a pre-riot BBQ I heard.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,214
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
All I've seen is footage on mainstream is of a bloke at a pub who hid under a table being beaten up by Muslims . I've seen a large group of Muslims shouting " God is Great" standing at the end of a street and another group on the " hunt" for white extremists.
That's all I've seen but clearly there is a lot of fear amongst them . But clearly they're not main target of white extremists from what we're being told.
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Don’t you mean Christians rather than white extremists?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,215
Nick said:
No, hotels have been set on fire and fire mosque was damaged in Southport.

Loads of shops looted and police attacked.

This whole thing seems very strange. Today with the media and police.

With Muslim blokes being adamant that the "edl" are coming.
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So clearly there's a fair bit of pot stirring going on. There isn't any real link between the discontent from the far right with the level of immigration and those houses in hotels, and the Muslim community already established here.
Unless of course, there are a significant number of Muslims houses in these hotels which I'm not sure I've been made aware of .
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,216
Nick said:
Just been in Bedworth, everybody going about their business as normal.

A few protests against dentists though.
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Good stuff it’s witchcraft and I won’t have it in the town.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,217
Lads, “EDL” just means a load of racist white guys looking to kick off. It’s not a descriptor of membership of a group.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,218
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So clearly there's a fair bit of pot stirring going on. There isn't any real link between the discontent from the far right with the level of immigration and those houses in hotels, and the Muslim community already established here.
Unless of course, there are a significant number of Muslims houses in these hotels which I'm not sure I've been made aware of .
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No they were hotels used for housing immigrants.

They were very much targeted.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,219
Sky news is entertaining, literally nothing going on so they don't know what to say.

Hopefully stays like it.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #3,220
Nick said:
No they were hotels used for housing immigrants.

They were very much targeted.
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But are those being housed ( and attacked) of any particular faith or don't we know ?
 
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