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[Skyblueabo1111]

Statistically we’ve created more chances than the oppo in all 3 matches.

Stats mean nothing, all about chances. Both were dominant first half. We got lucky, same as first half today. We are getting completely overrun. Amazed people can't see it.

 

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[Ibby]

Two spots open.

 

[hinckley cov]

Torp is more of an option at 10 in this system, in my opinion, and not a player to play alongside Grimes in games you’re going to get overrun or countered…

Hamer can do the job there, with a bit more creativity than Grimes, Sheaf would’ve been ideal, and yeah Onyeka sounds like a solution.

The only issue I have is Grimes severely lacks pace, and we could do with a player there with stamina and pace to cover as they will get through a hell of a lot of work between now and the end of the season

Torp was awful tonight him and Grimes are so slow infact we have no pace in there at all .

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

As he should be, but you can see why a system that exposes him is going to affect his game.

Not in that context. If we get caught on the break and he gets done for pace, or makes a mistake under pressure, or even a progressive pass that goes astray, that’s fair enough and those errors happen.

He’s just miscontrolled the ball under no pressure and Norwich react quickly, it’s unforgivable.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Norwich could have been 3 up, at half time. Same as Leicester and Millwall.

We had a higher xG in both halves so whatever chances you think they should’ve scored, we literally had better chances.

That’s not even including EMC missing from a yard out and Haji having one cleared off the line.

 

[Shannerz]

Not in that context. If we get caught on the break and he gets done for pace, or makes a mistake under pressure, or even a progressive pass that goes astray, that’s fair enough and those errors happen.

He’s just miscontrolled the ball under no pressure and Norwich react quickly, it’s unforgivable.

Ok, I'm not saying the system directly resulted directly in an unforced error, in the sense that it put him in that position. It didn't.

What I'm saying is that if a system that leaves a player exposed is going to affect their confidence, put them on edge, and so make them more susceptible to making unforced errors. It's making our defenders nervous.

 

[David O'Day]

Stats mean nothing, all about chances. Both were dominant first half. We got lucky, same as first half today. We are getting completely overrun. Amazed people can't see it.

Your back 3 idea seems to not take into any account our current in possession shape has a back 3, the issue is the cover and space left in front of them.

We can play 4 CBs and they still struggle if we keep giving away so much space in the midfield.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Your back 3 idea seems to not take into any account our current in possession shape has a back 3, the issue is the cover and space left in front of them.

We can play 4 CBs and they still struggle if we keep giving away so much space in the midfield.

No idea what you posted. We did it at Portsmouth and won 3.1.

 

[David O'Day]

No idea what you posted. We did it at Portsmouth and won 3.1.

Yes because the midfield was deeper and left no space for the opposition to flood through.

If you have no idea what I posted then you really shouldn't be discussing football tactics.

 

[David O'Day]

No idea what you posted. We did it at Portsmouth and won 3.1.

Oh and we also played a back 3 against Charlton and were not great.

Apart from you still not solving the space in the midfield issue you also haven't taken into account the issue that good teams will push their full backs ultra high creating overloads on each flank as their isn't a natural wide attacker to track back. This then means central players get pulled out wide to help leaving gaps that can be exploited.

An example of this is home against Leeds last year.

 

[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

It would only take two changes to make us look stronger:

1. Tell Dasilva to stay back at all times
2. Change the midfield to a proper double pivot, instead of the 8 being closer to the CF than Grimes

It's been MONTHS of us getting ripped apart on the counter and Lampard has done fuck all about it.

I do think in Da Silva’s defence that he’s been left badly exposed to multiple 1 v 1s by EMC/Wright or whoever has played on the left wing. This has been compounded by a lack of pace/legs in centre midfield to get over and help out….coupled with two centre halves who are slow to read the game and lack the pace to make recovery/covering runs to help.

If we had more pace/better reading of the game in centre mid and centre back, maybe we could get away with it but JDS looks frequently exposed.

 

[David O'Day]

No idea what you posted. We did it at Portsmouth and won 3.1.

Also the pedant in me has to say it was 2-1

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

We had a higher xG in both halves so whatever chances you think they should’ve scored, we literally had better chances.

That’s not even including EMC missing from a yard out and Haji having one cleared off the line.

Xg means nothing. They should have been 3 up at half time. Again.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Xg means nothing. They should have been 3 up at half time. Again.

What chances then? Both of their best chances were their second half goals…

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

We’ve been dreadful since Ipswich and he’s not done much to change it. Definitely his worst month in charge.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

We’ve been dreadful since Ipswich and he’s not done much to change it. Definitely his worst month in charge.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that when he's been in charge at other clubs once they have gone on a poor run it's usually been unable to turn it around. Hope I'm wrong ,but we've not been much good for about 2 months. Rushworths either sav d us and we've relied on home form . Charlton , Watford , WBA, Millwall sliced through our midfield and defence but luckily missed their chances

 

[alexccfc99]

I am not crowing for his head btw, far from it

But tonight is the first time this season I have felt genuinely let down/concerned by Lampard - the set up was completely baffling tonight

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

I am not crowing for his head btw, far from it

But tonight is the first time this season I have felt genuinely let down/concerned by Lampard - the set up was completely baffling tonight

The decision not to sign Bamford has come back to haunt us.

 

[rob9872]

There's a lot more to it than blaming the manager. Players need to take some responsibility and start doing basic things right. The amount of possession we turned over without being under pressure because they either tried too much in the wrong area or couldn't play a simple pass was ridiculous.

 

[coop]

Away from home set up with a back 5 4 in midfield and make us hard to break down at home play the way the way he likes us to play.When you make changes change the formation to help us have a chance ,changing personal and expecting us to score isn't working last night we should of went kept hadji on with simms.

 

[clint van damme]

Well, we should’ve scored 1 of the 2 big chances we had before they scored…

All the complaints about the midfield and so on isn’t what lost us the game. Thomas gets caught flat footed for their first and Kitching loses the ball with an unforced error in a suicidal position.

We need a player like Onyeka playing as we do. Torp did well winning ball high up the pitch for the first half, didn’t have the intensity for full 90. BTA also struggled to link play and thought we lost control (or lack thereof) when we were in the ascendancy.

The complaints about the midfield are valid even if it was ultimately 2 errors that cost us. Teams have been over running us for weeks away from home.

As for Torp, he was dreadful in possession in the first half. Yes he won a few balls high up the pitch but proceeded to lose possession again almost straight away.

 

[M&B Stand]

The decision not to sign Bamford has come back to haunt us.

2 Loan players wasn’t and isn’t enough, we need a marquee signing to lift everyone before the window closes imo.

 

[David O'Day]

2 Loan players wasn’t and isn’t enough, we need a marquee signing to lift everyone before the window closes imo.

The 2 loan signings were and no matter what people will say remain to be the most important signings. Cover on the wings was needed most of all. The issues with the midfield and how we defend against transitions can if needed be solved tactically.