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Transfer Rumour Frank Onyeka (16 Viewers)

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TomRad85

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  • Today at 2:42 PM
  • #421
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm assuming it's because Bobby's suspension is finished.
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This is true, although maybe he'll miss another game if it clashes with his court date, if our Analysis friend is to be believed
 
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procdoc

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  • Today at 2:44 PM
  • #422
shmmeee said:
3k minutes across 5 seasons and being hawked around the Championship would suggest he is.
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doesn't mean he failed though. Just because he doesn't feature regularly for an established premier league team doesn't mean he wouldn't be great for us. He's got top level experience, for me it's a no brainer
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Today at 2:44 PM
  • #423
We only need a gritty, midfield dog fight of a player to get us into the Prem!!!!!! After that is pure speculation where this team will go and who will join.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:44 PM
  • #424
TomRad85 said:
This is true, although maybe he'll miss another game if it clashes with his court date, if our Analysis friend is to be believed
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Ah yes, the bloke who's given up on providing subpar analysis and traded it in for subpar allegations against first team players.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:45 PM
  • #425
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To each his own there, I prefer the per 90 particularly in a league with a well defined winter break like the Bundesliga so you get good comparison to those who arrived in January on top of those playing similar roles who get rotated either during or between games.

I agree taking the overall numbers it's good and aside from the data, he brings physicality and energy to a midfield that doesn't have much of both. It would make a lot of sense.
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The point about him being at a relegation level team is pertinent here.

On a per 90 basis, Ponticelli is our best striker over the last decade, that’s worth pondering on. On per 90 measurements there’s more room for statistical anomalies to show up.

Shannerz said:
I don't care if he's good enough for Brentford in the Premier League, I care if he's good enough to get us over the line in the Championship.

If he is, then he's worth whatever we pay for him.
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Brentford are also 7th in the league and if we go up, we just need a squad who can finish 17th. He’s obviously good enough to help us get to the Prem.

shmmeee said:
We need to assume we’re going down and will need to sell everyone we can really. I’m just iffy about taking failed PL players on long contracts.
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We don’t know the terms yet. In any case, there will be churn in the summer so if we can get a player in now to help get us up and they play a peripheral role in the Prem, it’s best to do the deal.

He’s been a role player at Brentford for 2-3 seasons who have stayed up quite comfortably. He doesn’t add resale value per se but he adds value to the squad.

I don’t think it’s an iffy contract either, it’s not like he’s on 60-80k a week which probably what we’ll be paying new signings in the summer.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Today at 2:47 PM
  • #426
Why the fuck are we probing into players private lives?? It's got fuck all to do with us, let the bloke get on with sorting things out by himself with the backing of the Club.
Fucking nosey fans really piss me off!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:48 PM
  • #427
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The point about him being at a relegation level team is pertinent here.

On a per 90 basis, Ponticelli is our best striker over the last decade, that’s worth pondering on. On per 90 measurements there’s more room for statistical anomalies to show up.
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I understand that you need to take care by filtering out those who've played below a certain number of minutes. Possibly crossing wires here anyway, I agree he'd be a welcome addition.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:49 PM
  • #428
robbiethemole said:
Why the fuck are we probing into players private lives?? It's got fuck all to do with us, let the bloke get on with sorting things out by himself with the backing of the Club.
Fucking nosey fans really piss me off!!
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Nobody here except that 'analysis' account has been doing that tbf.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 2:51 PM
  • #429
Grendel said:
He started 30 games in the Bundesleague last season you clown
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It’s quite funny that no batted an eyelid when it came to us signing 29 year old Grimes for £4m last season. An extra £3m for proven Prem talent, just makes sense.

No one would dispute that Grimes has added to our squad so much because we needed a player who can control games. Now, we need athleticism and a ball winner which Onyeka is and he’s coming off a good spell on AFCON.
 

Shannerz

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  • Today at 2:59 PM
  • #430
SBT said:
Given we likely only have 18 more games in the Championship for the foreseeable future then he’s only worth so much to us in those terms.
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If he's what we need in our team, and gets us promoted, he is priceless.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #431
Seriously though, if he goes to Blues, Shmmeee is actually right. He's complete shite.
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 3:09 PM
  • #432
robbiethemole said:
We only need a gritty, midfield dog fight of a player to get us into the Prem!!!!!! After that is pure speculation where this team will go and who will join.
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Oh, for someone like D Wise.
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 3:11 PM
  • #433
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s quite funny that no batted an eyelid when it came to us signing 29 year old Grimes for £4m last season. An extra £3m for proven Prem talent, just makes sense.

No one would dispute that Grimes has added to our squad so much because we needed a player who can control games. Now, we need athleticism and a ball winner which Onyeka is and he’s coming off a good spell on AFCON.
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Pound for pound Grimes is the best player we have brought in for over 15 years.
 
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Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Today at 3:12 PM
  • #434
Jordan Ponticelli can get us over the line
 
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long way home

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  • Today at 3:41 PM
  • #435
Swansea cant be happy with us,fans told us Vik was shit and grimes was old and sideways.. We should go after the RB to put the nail in the coffin of us being more hated than Cardiff...

Oh
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 3:42 PM
  • #436
oneofourown said:
Pound for pound Grimes is the best player we have brought in for over 15 years.
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That’s exactly my point… so an extra £3m for a proven top division player is going to be good value.

No one batted an eyelid at signing Grimes because we all knew it was what the team needed. His age, wages or resale value were irrelevant precisely because it made us a better team.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:42 PM
  • #437
long way home said:
Swansea cant be happy with us,fans told us Vik was shit and grimes was old and sideways.. We should go after the RB to put the nail in the coffin of us being more hated than Cardiff...

Oh
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?
 

edgy

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  • Today at 3:48 PM
  • #438
TomRad85 said:
Seriously though, if he goes to Blues, Shmmeee is actually right. He's complete shite.
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Shmeee was right, Onyeka's shite
Shmeee was right, Onyeka's shite
 
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Boicey

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  • Today at 4:03 PM
  • #439
We desperately need some defensive pace in the team. The ability to cover opposition breaks. This guy doesn't doesn't do that does he?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:03 PM
  • #440
Boicey said:
We desperately need some defensive pace in the team. The ability to cover opposition breaks. This guy doesn't doesn't do that does he?
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yes
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 4:04 PM
  • #441
Boicey said:
We desperately need some defensive pace in the team. The ability to cover opposition breaks. This guy doesn't doesn't do that does he?
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Being a top percentile player for tackles and interceptions suggests yes to me.
 
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DT-R

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  • Today at 4:23 PM
  • #442
shmmeee said:
Yeah now. They weren’t when they signed him they were newly promoted.
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But he still played plenty of minutes in that first season. A season, i might add, they finished 16th and avoided relegation. Something that could be invaluable to us next season is the difference of a player thats got the stripes, or Jamie Allen?

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skybluecam

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  • Today at 4:26 PM
  • #443
DT-R said:
But he still played plenty of minutes in that first season. A season, i might add, they finished 16th and avoided relegation. Something that could be invaluable to us next season is the difference of a player thats got the stripes, or Jamie Allen?

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Jamie Allen wouldn’t play in the prem anyway
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:29 PM
  • #444
skybluecam said:
Jamie Allen wouldn’t play in the prem anyway
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And Onyeka would, so what DT-R is saying is why not get Onyeka in now?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Today at 4:40 PM
  • #445
Ccfcisparks said:
And Onyeka would, so what DT-R is saying is why not get Onyeka in now?
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Well it’s not Onyeka vs Allen is it, it would be Onyeka vs another new signing.
 

DT-R

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  • Today at 4:41 PM
  • #446
skybluecam said:
Jamie Allen wouldn’t play in the prem anyway
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No i agree, but it still makes the same point. Even if hes only a squad player in the PL, thats what hes done for 4 seasons for Brentford. And those 4 seasons, by all accounts, have been very successful. So to call him a failed PL player is ridiculous!

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Nick

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  • Today at 4:44 PM
  • #447
shmmeee said:
3k minutes across 5 seasons and being hawked around the Championship would suggest he is.
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To be fair you posted about 4,000 times about Lampard being a failed manager. Now you are worrying about a player not being good enough to play for us in the Premier League next year.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Today at 4:45 PM
  • #448
oneofourown said:
Pound for pound Grimes is the best player we have brought in for over 15 years.
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That's a pretty bold statement when we've had Hamer and Gyokeres come in that timeframe for smaller fees
 
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Hobo

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  • Today at 4:55 PM
  • #449
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
That's a pretty bold statement when we've had Hamer and Gyokeres come in that timeframe for smaller fees
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And they both brought lots of pounds into the club in profits.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 5:02 PM
  • #450
skybluecam said:
Well it’s not Onyeka vs Allen is it, it would be Onyeka vs another new signing.
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Well unless someone can suggest someone more suitable for half a season promotion push and then a first year in the Prem then it’s currently Onyeka vs Allen
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 5:19 PM
  • #451
Loan with an obligation if promoted would be ideal imo.

If we go up we are going to need proven premiership experience. Lad looks to have that and is a much needed profile in our squad.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Today at 5:35 PM
  • #452
How genuine is this rumour? Has it been reported anywhere vaguely credible?
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 5:41 PM
  • #453
Jamesimus said:
How genuine is this rumour? Has it been reported anywhere vaguely credible?
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Daily Mail reported it first.
 

Hutch11

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  • Today at 5:47 PM
  • #454
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Daily Mail reported it first.
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So nowhere credible then
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Today at 5:51 PM
  • #455
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Daily Mail reported it first.
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Did they hack Doug’s phone?
 
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