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sw88

sw88

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At the end of the day, the stewards arent properly trained to deal with disorder of the highest order, like we saw at Wembley.

That said, the fights that broke out to that scale, i dont think police would be either! That needed riot police! A copper with a Batton wasnt going to stop that. And whilst the 'fans' were fighting amongst themselves, had the police got involved sooner, im sure they would have turned their attentions to the police officers trying to do their job, and work together to attack the officers!

As for the moron who hit the police horse, he needed a good kick in.......from the horse! That would teach him for being such an idiot!
 
Tad

Tad

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Rubber bullet the lot of them.
 
ohitsaidwalker king power

ohitsaidwalker king power

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I'm concerned that some on here seem to trivialise football hooliganism as to something that just 'happens.'

If you have ever been chased by Stanley blade wielding West Ham fans , with your coat slashed by good fortune and not your face- being accused of being a "Northern C Unit" like I was back in the 80's
If you have ever been in the middle of a police horse charge- not sure whether to go left to the marauding West Brom fans or right to the sanctity of a glass topped wall.
If you have ever been at Villa Park Witton station and subjected to a crowd surge through the police line with Villa fans awaiting your demise for a good kicking.
If you were in the sky blue stand when Leeds fans ran amok, throwing all that came their way and then in Swan lane after the game, witnessing terrifying scenes.

If you have ever experienced that, being a gentle peace loving soul like I am, then you'll perhaps not trivialise it so. If ever it returned to "that" level I for one would be very seriously tempted to quit the beautiful game for good, love the sky blues as I do.

Its wrong, endangers life and deserves the stiffest of penalties.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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ohitsaidwalker king power said:
I'm concerned that some on here seem to trivialise football hooliganism as to something that just 'happens.'

If you have ever been chased by Stanley blade wielding West Ham fans , with your coat slashed by good fortune and not your face- being accused of being a "Northern C Unit" like I was back in the 80's
If you have ever been in the middle of a police horse charge- not sure whether to go left to the marauding West Brom fans or right to the sanctity of a glass topped wall.
If you have ever been at Villa Park Witton station and subjected to a crowd surge through the police line with Villa fans awaiting your demise for a good kicking.
If you were in the sky blue stand when Leeds fans ran amok, throwing all that came their way and then in Swan lane after the game, witnessing terrifying scenes.

If you have ever experienced that, being a gentle peace loving soul like I am, then you'll perhaps not trivialise it so. If ever it returned to "that" level I for one would be very seriously tempted to quit the beautiful game for good, love the sky blues as I do.

Its wrong, endangers life and deserves the stiffest of penalties.
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...& it is not footballs problem. Football is the vehicle these thugs choose to flaunt their courage/physical-prowess (or stupidity as most of the rest of us seem to agree) because it gets them attention, notoriety & kudos with their equally stupid mates.
 
Samo

Samo

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Footy hooliganism is an expression of the male urge to be tribal and go to war. In peace time, young males need a release for all that pent up aggression. Football is tribal by nature so the violence is not too great a surprise. Perhaps instead of black and white thinking; violence is wrong, full stop, we should be looking at why men feel the way they do about it. I'm sure there must be some interesting research on this somewhere. I'm certainly not condining it by the way, I just think we should try to better understand it.

As far as a comeback goes, not in the old form for the reasons already stated, camaras, etc. But communication has also moved on and if blokes want to fight, they will find a way. Not in the grounds but at pre-agreed sites, such as the Leicester scrap in Earlsdon a few years back.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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Samo said:
Footy hooliganism is an expression of the male urge to be tribal and go to war. In peace time, young males need a release for all that pent up aggression. Football is tribal by nature so the violence is not too great a surprise. Perhaps instead of black and white thinking; violence is wrong, full stop, we should be looking at why men feel the way they do about it. I'm sure there must be some interesting research on this somewhere. I'm certainly not condining it by the way, I just think we should try to better understand it.

As far as a comeback goes, not in the old form for the reasons already stated, camaras, etc. But communication has also moved on and if blokes want to fight, they will find a way. Not in the grounds but at pre-agreed sites, such as the Leicester scrap in Earlsdon a few years back.
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What a load of bollox.
 
coundonskyblue

coundonskyblue

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Samo said:
Footy hooliganism is an expression of the male urge to be tribal and go to war. In peace time, young males need a release for all that pent up aggression. Football is tribal by nature so the violence is not too great a surprise. Perhaps instead of black and white thinking; violence is wrong, full stop, we should be looking at why men feel the way they do about it. I'm sure there must be some interesting research on this somewhere. I'm certainly not condining it by the way, I just think we should try to better understand it.

As far as a comeback goes, not in the old form for the reasons already stated, camaras, etc. But communication has also moved on and if blokes want to fight, they will find a way. Not in the grounds but at pre-agreed sites, such as the Leicester scrap in Earlsdon a few years back.
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I get my 'release' by watching at cheering on the team. Your right that football is tribal, the whole point is that the tribalism is done through sport so that we don't have to act like cavemen. Its supposed to be about Coventry & Warwickshire against the rest of the country, and what happens on the pitch is the battle for us to acheive supremacy.

What its not supposed to be about is chavs causing trouble in car parks frightening families.

If these lads need a greater release for their aggression than just watching the game, then I suggest they should be signed up as the first squadron to enter the Korean DMZ.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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SkyblueBazza said:
I think it could easily get worse. There will be some that jump on the bandwagon because they want their 15mins of fame (all be it at best 5secs on TV, 1hr in court & a lifetime of "somebody else's fault I am frowned upon by society in general") & bugger the consequences, those wih very limited intellect with the same 70-80s theme of "our fans are worse/harder (or is it just more nutters?) than theirs" or maybe even spurred on by my generations claim that it was worse then.
Ask any victim (past or present) & I suspect they'll say that being on the receiving end is terrible & for those already affected in the present - it probably couldn't get any worse.
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Fair points Baz I suppose many people will see the actions of the few over the last few days and replicate it's human nature I suppose..
 
Samo

Samo

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coundonskyblue said:
I get my 'release' by watching at cheering on the team. Your right that football is tribal, the whole point is that the tribalism is done through sport so that we don't have to act like cavemen. Its supposed to be about Coventry & Warwickshire against the rest of the country, and what happens on the pitch is the battle for us to acheive supremacy.

What its not supposed to be about is chavs causing trouble in car parks frightening families.

If these lads need a greater release for their aggression than just watching the game, then I suggest they should be signed up as the first squadron to enter the Korean DMZ.
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Can't argue with that... but it won't happen so back in the real world...
 
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