bezzer
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It's not often I find myself agreeing with you SBJ, but on this I do.
Finally acknowledged the ccfc will never own a stadium under sisu (1 Viewer)
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It's not often I find myself agreeing with you SBJ, but on this I do.
bigfatronssba
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The progressive argument is for the the Ricoh lease (freehold is of no use to the club) to belong to the same company as where the golden share sits.
Ccfc should be allowed to purchase acl for the market rate, with various safeguards put in place.
bezzer
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And if SISU own CCFC, then what?
lewys33
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Not sure on that one, maybe it is because there is "so much going on" at the Ricoh that a management company would be a good idea .........
covcity4life
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me and oldskyblue
bigfatronssba
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As long as the stadium is going to the same company as the golden share, market value is paid, and safeguards are put in place then I don't have a problem with them buying the stadium.
However I do have a problem with the stadium going off to separate companies. Sisu aren't to be trusted to do that with honest intentions IMO.
lewys33
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you KANTS!
bigfatronssba
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I cant see any reason as to why ACL cant be set up as a division of CCFC. ACL as a ltd company would cease to exist, and all assets would belong to CCFC. ACL though would continue to operate separate from the football side of things.
if sisu actually purchased the ground when they first took over, no-one would have said a word. the fact remains sisu paid rent for many a year thinking they were onto a quick earner, that back fired now and they are trying to make ccfc sustainable but for me and many others it’s too late and the damage is done. bit like a girlfriend/wife, cheating over n over again. sooner or later you have enough and tell the slut to do one. tears begin asking for forgiveness but you say enough is enough. sisu very similar, they lied and cheated time n time again and eventually majority have had enough.
italiahorse
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Great plan .......... but ....... sisu will not pay market value. They have had several opportunities to buy it but instead have waited until they broke the lease so they can (attempt) get it on the cheap.
All for CCFC getting it on the cheap but that will NEVER be the case.
italiahorse
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Now the slut and her lover want to move in to a 2 bedroom semi just round the corner to your 6 bedroom mansion.
chiefdave
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It's not the fact that if SISU took over we might have CCFC and the Ricoh exist as separate companies in the same group that people have a problem with is it? Is it not more the suspicion that SISU will somehow screw us over, either by loading debt against the ground as a means to get their money back (then walking away leaving us in a complete mess) or by charging the club a large rent to play there.
For me CCC should reatain the freehold and once SISU have purchased ACL and finished repaying the loan replace the current lease with a rolling lease with peppercorn rent and put in clauses that allow CCC to terminate the lease if SISU do something dodgy.
For me CCC should reatain the freehold and once SISU have purchased ACL and finished repaying the loan replace the current lease with a rolling lease with peppercorn rent and put in clauses that allow CCC to terminate the lease if SISU do something dodgy.
NorthernWisdom
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Got to interject, fair's fair and all that.
I know who MMM 'is', never met him mind you, but that doesn't stop me knowing that... but pretty sure he's nowt to do with any ACL types! For all I know he's best mates with them, quaffs G&Ts in the Dun Cow with them on Wednesday Pie Night... but then maybe he also pops to omars for an all you can eat buffet with Fisher, too!
Not entirely sure where this is heading tbh!
Nonleagueherewecome
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I would rather the club as it exists presently fold and we can start again in non-league than we go back to The Ricoh as SISU's tenants. The latter is a fate worse than death.
covcity4life
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leave the forummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
When SISU decided to do a runner from the Ricoh, there are only 3 possible explanations:
1. They intended to build a new ground but that is increasingly looking like a pipe dream.
2. They were willing to risk everything in an attempt to distress ACL and pick up the Ricoh for free or at a bargain price.
3. They had no idea what they were doing.
Whatever the reason, are people seriously suggesting that a company, so obviously inept and wilfully neglectful of our football club, should be allowed to own the Ricoh?
Given their record up to now, isn’t it obvious that not only would the future of CCFC be in jeopardy but also the future of the only stadium in Coventry capable of hosting major sporting events.
1. They intended to build a new ground but that is increasingly looking like a pipe dream.
2. They were willing to risk everything in an attempt to distress ACL and pick up the Ricoh for free or at a bargain price.
3. They had no idea what they were doing.
Whatever the reason, are people seriously suggesting that a company, so obviously inept and wilfully neglectful of our football club, should be allowed to own the Ricoh?
Given their record up to now, isn’t it obvious that not only would the future of CCFC be in jeopardy but also the future of the only stadium in Coventry capable of hosting major sporting events.
covcity4life
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Nonleagueherewecome
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The Reverend Skyblue
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why should he do that ! , oh I've got it, he has an opinion that differs from yours
covcity4life
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how are you my old friend?
and to answer your question he should leave the forum because it is for ccfc fans and he clearly has no love for the club.
Nonleagueherewecome
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NorthernWisdom
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Yeah, it's kind of daft either way.
Also somewhat worrying about how entrenched some people are, that they believe themselves to be RIGHT ON EVERYTHING and thus, in something without certainties, can't conceive of people having a different opinion!
I do nonetheless say this while musing on the irony that (naming no names
) a fair few people were determined that because of when i signed up here, I must be in the pay of SISu because I didn;t believe they caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Yeah, it's kind of daft either way.
Also somewhat worrying about how entrenched some people are, that they believe themselves to be RIGHT ON EVERYTHING and thus, in something without certainties, can't conceive of people having a different opinion!
I do nonetheless say this while musing on the irony that (naming no names
And I remember that I leapt to your defence, despite not always seeing eye-to-eye with you
covcity4life
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Yeah, it's kind of daft either way.
Also somewhat worrying about how entrenched some people are, that they believe themselves to be RIGHT ON EVERYTHING and thus, in something without certainties, can't conceive of people having a different opinion!
I do nonetheless say this while musing on the irony that (naming no names
Not One Dinosaur More
NODM
NorthernWisdom
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Oh and as for the concept of plants, why people can't see that if you really wanted to be an ACL plant, you'd post ludicrously OTT pro SISU stuff to wind people up to incredible levels...
Nick
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Exactly, people may not agree with it but it is what he feels so not really a case of saying "leave" because of it
NorthernWisdom
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And I remember that I leapt to your defence, despite not always seeing eye-to-eye with you
You did.
It's why I go easy(ish) on you to this day
Don't really rate the Telegraph ever since they stopped the Pink and tried, unsuccessfully to get City fans to buy the Brum Spots Argus. Typical Northern/Southern mentality that Midland clubs don't exist. But Ithink Mr. Ried has been very neutral in his analysis of the situation. Unfortunately many on here CANNOT be neutral because their view is totally onesided so if someone says anything against their own opinion they cannot accept it. Thus many can't see his view as being correct. I like Torch's and Warwickhunt's opinions because they try to be neutral. I don't agree with Lee's opinions but I respect him as a person because he respects other. One other point = Don't you think it's weird that grown men folow other grown men on twitter? Youngsters do it as do young ladies, but grown men? It's rather camp, don't you think?
Nonleagueherewecome
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Nonleagueherewecome
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You did.
It's why I go easy(ish) on you to this day
Well you're clearly not an idiot, or rabidly one-eyed. Like I say, I might not always agree with you, but I can talk to you!
NorthernWisdom
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Godiva's too balanced
(yes, I know it's a joke, but) In my weaker moments, I tried to remember when Godiva popped up and if it was when SISU took over but tbh they've gone through so many board members in that time, there'd be no bugger left for him to be consistent! Anyway, what he does offer is a valuable insight into a particular line of thinking, no? Sometimes he raises very good points that I for one hadn't considered, and whether SISU's love child or the Photocopier King, some points he makes are well worth adding into the pot, if we're looking for a way out.There are one or two who pop up who if you wanted a massive conspiracy theory would fit a template and flash warning lights but...
I'd rather not bother with the paranoia full-stop!
bigfatronssba
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Godiva's too balanced
There are one or two who pop up who if you wanted a massive conspiracy theory would fit a template and flash warning lights but...
I'd rather not bother with the paranoia full-stop!
RFC is more pro sisu that Seppalla. Theres your ACL plant!
Nonleagueherewecome
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I assume he was just the same RFC from the CT forum, who was similar in tone if not quite so extreme and liked using IMHO!!!
skybluefred
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Torchy, If you wish to keep CCFC in Northampton your only backers are sisu. Personally I want CCFC back at the RICOH
with new owners who do know about and are interested in football.
