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Gazolba

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  • Jul 1, 2019
  • #106
bezzer said:
There's a fantastic film about Johnson and the other women involved in the Space race - Hidden Figures - Wikipedia
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I just ordered the DVD of this film.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #107
dutchman said:
There was what was then known as a 'mini computer' on board Apollo 11 used for navigation. I think it had 8K of memory and could only be operated using machine code.
The chief computer programmer behind the whole mission was a black woman, Katherine Johnson.

Katherine Johnson - Wikipedia
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A lot of people don’t realise that originally programming was seen as woman’s work because it was like typing.

Lots of early women programmers, including of course Ada Lovelace once of the first. And Grace Hopper.

Then as it became something techie and well paid it became a man’s profession.

Interesting example of sex stereotypes in action. Now you can’t convince girls to program for love nor money.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #108
shmmeee said:
A lot of people don’t realise that originally programming was seen as woman’s work because it was like typing.

Lots of early women programmers, including of course Ada Lovelace once of the first. And Grace Hopper.

Then as it became something techie and well paid it became a man’s profession.

Interesting example of sex stereotypes in action. Now you can’t convince girls to program for love nor money.
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Never, ever did I think I would see a post with the words 'Lovelace' and 'sex' and it not be about Linda Lovelace.
 
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bezzer

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #109
Gazolba said:
I just ordered the DVD of this film.
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It's a very good film.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #110
Otis said:
Never, ever did I think I would see a post with the words 'Lovelace' and 'sex' and it not be about Linda Lovelace.
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Just wait until I tell you about the time Debbie Harry played a concert in Dallas.
 
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Gazolba

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #111
shmmeee said:
A lot of people don’t realise that originally programming was seen as woman’s work because it was like typing.

Lots of early women programmers, including of course Ada Lovelace once of the first. And Grace Hopper.

Then as it became something techie and well paid it became a man’s profession.

Interesting example of sex stereotypes in action. Now you can’t convince girls to program for love nor money.
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I've been in IT virtually since the beginning (Univac mainframe computers, punched cards and paper tape) and to my knowledge it's never been seen as a solely male career.
I've worked at lots of different places and there have always been plenty of women involved.
I've had as many female co-workers as men and I've had as many women bosses as men.
On my current job, my team is about 50% women. We have women from India, China and Russia.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #112
Gazolba said:
I've been in IT virtually since the beginning (Univac mainframe computers, punched cards and paper tape) and to my knowledge it's never been seen as a solely male career.
I've worked at lots of different places and there have always been plenty of women involved.
I've had as many female co-workers as men and I've had as many women bosses as men.
On my current job, my team is about 50% women. We have women from India, China and Russia.
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This just isn’t true. Check all the industry stats. My CS degree has precisely 1 woman on it and she quit in the first term. Sorry, but it’s ridiculous to say there’s not a gender bias in tech.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #113
shmmeee said:
This just isn’t true. Check all the industry stats. My CS degree has precisely 1 woman on it and she quit in the first term. Sorry, but it’s ridiculous to say there’s not a gender bias in tech.
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What year did you go? I went to do my CS degree in 92 and there was around 200 people on the course. Definitely over a quarter female. Obviously not equal but not insignificant.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 2, 2019
  • #114
Gazolba said:
I've been in IT virtually since the beginning (Univac mainframe computers, punched cards and paper tape) and to my knowledge it's never been seen as a solely male career.
I've worked at lots of different places and there have always been plenty of women involved.
I've had as many female co-workers as men and I've had as many women bosses as men.
On my current job, my team is about 50% women. We have women from India, China and Russia.
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Keep the Indians and the Chinese. Send the Russian ones back.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jul 3, 2019
  • #115
Just watched There’s something about Mary , bloody love this film
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 3, 2019
  • #116
shmmeee said:
This just isn’t true. Check all the industry stats. My CS degree has precisely 1 woman on it and she quit in the first term. Sorry, but it’s ridiculous to say there’s not a gender bias in tech.
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I spoke to a woman networking engineer the other week and nearly fainted.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jul 3, 2019
  • #117
Stolen from twitter
Make a film about football

The Richard shawshank redemption

Lock stock and 2 Andy Carroll’s
 
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Gazolba

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #118
shmmeee said:
This just isn’t true. Check all the industry stats. My CS degree has precisely 1 woman on it and she quit in the first term. Sorry, but it’s ridiculous to say there’s not a gender bias in tech.
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What do you mean 'not true'? I'm stating facts based on my own experience over 40 years in IT.
There wasn't any bias at the places I've worked and I've had a dozen or more IT jobs in Europe and the US.
In my current IT position, women outnumber men about three to one.
My current boss is also a woman.
CS degrees is another subject, I'm talking about people working in IT. I very much doubt whether many have an IT-related degree.
There was no such thing as a CS degree when I entered the field, and in most IT jobs it's still a plus but not a requirement.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #119
Gazolba said:
What do you mean 'not true'? I'm stating facts based on my own experience over 40 years in IT.
There wasn't any bias at the places I've worked and I've had a dozen or more IT jobs in Europe and the US.
In my current IT position, women outnumber men about three to one.
My current boss is also a woman.
CS degrees is another subject, I'm talking about people working in IT. I very much doubt whether many have an IT-related degree.
There was no such thing as a CS degree when I entered the field, and in most IT jobs it's still a plus but not a requirement.
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That’s all lovely, but the plural of anecdote isn’t fact. Also, you’re claiming to have worked in the industry since 1952 (first CS degree was 1953) so I’m calling bullshit. Just a guess, but the way you talk (calling it IT) suggests you’re in more of the support side than the engineering side, and the engineering side is where the biggest problems are.



Maybe this explains your confusion:



I could pull these stats out all day. I used to run a Computer Club For Girls (as well as teaching Compiting for ten years) and am well aware of the issues around getting girls into STEM subjects.

It honesty blows my mind that you’d claim otherwise TBH. Maybe your personal experience is different but realise it’s very much the exception to the rule.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #120
another thread descends into an argument totally unrelated to the initial subject matter - I wouldn't have it any other way!
 
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bezzer

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #121
shmmeee said:
That’s all lovely, but the plural of anecdote isn’t fact. Also, you’re claiming to have worked in the industry since 1952 (first CS degree was 1953) so I’m calling bullshit.
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He said he'd worked in IT for 40 years. With my basic A level Maths, that makes it circa 1979, not 1952.

However, I do have to agree with your statement regarding women in software/programminhg roles. I work for a Telecoms company. I work in software development. There are 36 of us poor souls, only 2 are women.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #122
bezzer said:
I work in software development. There are 36 of us poor souls, only 2 are women.
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Men are naturally inclined to choose tech jobs. There's no discrimination here, it's just a difference in gender interests.

Around 90% of women are nurses. Is this discrimination against men or are women just naturally caring and people focused?

People who think that every job market should have 50/50 gender ratio are absolutely mental and don't understand human behaviour.
 

Gazolba

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #123
bezzer said:
He said he'd worked in IT for 40 years. With my basic A level Maths, that makes it circa 1979, not 1952.

However, I do have to agree with your statement regarding women in software/programminhg roles. I work for a Telecoms company. I work in software development. There are 36 of us poor souls, only 2 are women.
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You need to hire more Indian and Chinese women.
Most of our recent web development recruits are Asian.
There is no stigma for women in those countries.
And they are excellent at the job, better than most men.
There are more women than men on my current team and almost every place I've worked there's been a balance of men and women.
I've always been in software development and business analysis roles.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jul 5, 2019
  • #124
Another morning to myself
So I’ve got reservoir dogs and serpico on the planner to watch
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #125
Gazolba said:
I just ordered the DVD of this film.
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Upgrade to blu ray grandpa!

P.s its a good film
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #126
Lion King - better than the original.

Also watch at IMAX if you can.
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #127
Ian1779 said:
Lion King - better than the original.

Also watch at IMAX if you can.
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That's a bold statement.

I've heard it's just a rehash of the older version without the charm.

Why do you think it's better?
 

vow

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #128
First Man 8/10

Great story behind moon landing trials, training and set-backs of Neil Armstrong and colleagues.

A bit emotional too!
 
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Gazolba

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #129
I'm a bit behind you guys, I just watched "Destination Moon" from 1950.
Film made years before the actual Apollo landing but amazingly accurate in its depiction of the launch, journey and landing.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #130
fellatio_Martinez said:
That's a bold statement.

I've heard it's just a rehash of the older version without the charm.

Why do you think it's better?
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I just enjoyed it so much more... visually it was incredible too.

I’m sure there are loads that will always believe the originals can’t be beaten and I get that.

I’ve seen 3 of the ‘live-action’ remakes now (Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King) and thought every one was superior to the original.

Don’t hate me....
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • Jul 22, 2019
  • #131
Ian1779 said:
I just enjoyed it so much more... visually it was incredible too.

I’m sure there are loads that will always believe the originals can’t be beaten and I get that.

I’ve seen 3 of the ‘live-action’ remakes now (Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King) and thought every one was superior to the original.

Don’t hate me....
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I don't have any kind of affinity with the original but I've just seen from reviewers that they preferred the original.

But it's all subjective innit.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 23, 2019
  • #132
Ian1779 said:
Lion King - better than the original.

Also watch at IMAX if you can.
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Family are going to watch it Thursday night. Managed to give it a swerve. Seen the original about 300 times when the Kids were little would rather iron the creases out of my ball sack than watch the remix!!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 23, 2019
  • #133
Enjoyed Vice (the film) ! Very interesting and a little scary !
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 23, 2019
  • #134
destroyer is a good crime thriller with cool ending
 
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OhhEnnEmm

Member
  • Jul 29, 2019
  • #135
I find Marvel's approach to films so frustrating.

They're tying all of the superhero films in with The Avengers, so you end up having to watch a bunch of other films to fully understand the only one you really wanted to watch.

It's a "smart" tactic, and has worked well for them in a sense, because they have such a huge and loyal following, which is obsessive if anything.

But for the average joe who doesn't get all twitchy over everything they do, it's actually so off-putting!

I've ended up just deciding not to bother with any of the films, if it's all or none, I'mma choose none, I don't have the time for your BS, Marvel!
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • Jul 30, 2019
  • #136
Went to see the new Lion King because my girlfriend kept going on about it.

The visuals are truly stunning. Comparing it to The Jungle Book, which was made 3 years ago from Disney with the same director, is unreal. The Jungle Book looks cheap and amateur next to The Lion King.

I didn't feel much though. Some of the voice acting was a bit underwhelming. Replacing Jeremy Irons as Scar and Rowan Atkinson as the bird was a mistake.

The whole thing being redone shot for shot was also a missed opportunity because the original was better. I'm not sure if it was because the cartoon gave the animals more emotion or because I thought I was watching a wildlife documentary but either way I wasn't overly moved by anything.

6.5/10
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jul 30, 2019
  • #137
bezzer said:
He said he'd worked in IT for 40 years. With my basic A level Maths, that makes it circa 1979, not 1952.

However, I do have to agree with your statement regarding women in software/programminhg roles. I work for a Telecoms company. I work in software development. There are 36 of us poor souls, only 2 are women.
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Ones the cleaner and one brings round the tea trolly.
 

dutchman

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #138
Alita:Battle Angel is a reasonably enjoyable way of spending a couple of hours. As usual for this type of film the storyline plays second fiddle to the visual effects. Best viewed on a big screen in 4K or 3D. The Honest Trailer sells it better than the official trailer:

 

Mcbean

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  • Aug 14, 2019
  • #139
Off to Once upon a time in Hollywood tonight - always try to see Tarantino films as soon as they are released as i like the blackness and humour and i hate seeing clips before the movie

Update - great film - Brad Pitt excellent pmsl at the end - a spiders web of stories joined together in typical Tarantino manner - recommended !
 
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bezzer

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  • Aug 22, 2019
  • #140
Mcbean said:
Off to Once upon a time in Hollywood tonight - always try to see Tarantino films as soon as they are released as i like the blackness and humour and i hate seeing clips before the movie

Update - great film - Brad Pitt excellent pmsl at the end - a spiders web of stories joined together in typical Tarantino manner - recommended !
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Saw this last night. Agreed, Brad Pitt was excellent as was Di Caprio. However, it was too long and painfully slow at times. The woman in the seat next to me fell asleep :happy: I wouldn't say the 'spiders web' of stories joined together at all. Pulp Fiction is/was the way to do that. In fact, many of the stories meandered along without any conclusion. I do agree with you about the end. Absolute classic Tarantino. Funny, shocking and superbly gruesome! A pity about the other 2 and a half hours.
 
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