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No future with SISU

New Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #141
Grendel said:
I was invited jack - I was your voice at the meeting.
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If fisher has invited you, it has to be a bigger mistake than going into that pub.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #142
shmmeee said:
I don't know anything Nick. Certainly nothing that's not in the public domain, and I certainly haven't met any of the main players.
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Seemed like a very reasonable point to me

Seems to be a theme if you ask why people would meet with ML and not mention it on here, you get shot down in flames
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #143
dongonzalos said:
Seemed like a very reasonable point to me

Seems to be a theme if you ask why people would meet with ML and not mention it on here, you get shot down in flames
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You're like me, Don. Forever the bridesmaid never the bride.

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #144
dongonzalos said:
Touchy

Thought it was quite a reasonable question to ask.

Do you know the answer?
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It isn't touchy...

As I said, do you want to meet him? Yes or no?

Or are just on here to stir?

Edit : I am by no means a pa but if you want to meet them then if you can pm me your details I can pass them on so you can ask anything you like
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #145
Nick said:
It isn't touchy...

As I said, do you want to meet him? Yes or no?

Or are just on here to stir?
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Christ, what a meeting of minds that would be, anybody else who gets that meeting best take a flask and sandwiches.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #146
dongonzalos said:
Seemed like a very reasonable point to me

Seems to be a theme if you ask why people would meet with ML and not mention it on here, you get shot down in flames
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People have mentioned it. That's why we are discussing it.

It was only this week.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #147
lordsummerisle said:
Christ, what a meeting of minds that would be, anybody else who gets that meeting best take a flask and sandwiches.
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To be honest I think they'd be advised to book in overnight. It takes both of them an hour to get one point across.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #148
lordsummerisle said:
Christ, what a meeting of minds that would be, anybody else who gets that meeting best take a flask and sandwiches.
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Or some cyanide
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #149
Grendel said:
People have mentioned it. That's why we are discussing it.

It was only this week.
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Did anyone that attended believe that a new ground was likely to be built (including ML)?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #150
Rusty Trombone said:
Did anyone that attended believe that a new ground was likely to be built (including ML)?
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I went on my own. I said it will not be built.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #151
Grendel said:
I went on my own. I said it will not be built.
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What response did you get?
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #152
Grendel said:
I went on my own. I said it will not be built.
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Is that still your view? Did you ask whether SISU are looking to get out of the club asap, or are they looking for a long term return for their investors?

Thanks.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #153
Nick said:
It isn't touchy...

As I said, do you want to meet him? Yes or no?

Or are just on here to stir?

Edit : I am by no means a pa but if you want to meet them then if you can pm me your details I can pass them on so you can ask anything you like
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Don't worry it eventually clicked....
I will make contact.

It is all a bit ridiculously cloak and dagger
Which is a shame.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #154
lordsummerisle said:
Christ, what a meeting of minds that would be, anybody else who gets that meeting best take a flask and sandwiches.
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Pint and pork scratching

Or


Or Achaval Ferrer, Finca Mirador Malbec and cheese

Depending on the venue
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #155
torchomatic said:
You're like me, Don. Forever the bridesmaid never the bride.

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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I have sent you a pm
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #156
dongonzalos said:
Don't worry it eventually clicked....
I will make contact.
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Have you been let into the secret club? Did you have to learn a special handshake?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #157
Having spoken to Ann Lucas I am certain there is a deal to be done but she was adamant that sisu are only interested in the complex at a kick down price and the football club is of no value. Like lord says we need some facts. I have more trust for Ann than ml though and as no one has seen joy seppalla that says an awful lot too
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #158
chiefdave said:
Have you been let into the secret club? Did you have to learn a special handshake?
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No mate check your messages
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #159
Haven't had one yet dongo? Send me a pm and Ill see if I can put you in touch some how....

Then I'll buy you a new wooden spoon
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #160
Nick said:
Haven't had one yet dongo? Send me a pm and Ill see if I can put you in touch some how....

Then I'll buy you a new wooden spoon
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Sorry mate I have PM'ed the main man ( I believe)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #161
dongonzalos said:
Sorry mate I have PM'ed the main man ( I believe)
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Ahh just stirring then, giving it jonny big spuds...
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #162
Nick said:
Ahh just stirring then, giving it jonny big spuds...
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Jonny big spuds!!!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #163
dongonzalos said:
Jonny big spuds!!!
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Well you keep saying how you want to meet to ask questions and being outraged so I am saying let me have your details (name and number and email) and I will see if it can be arranged.

You can then ask anything you like and feed it back.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #164
Nick said:
Well you keep saying how you want to meet to ask questions and being outraged so I am saying let me have your details (name and number and email) and I will see if it can be arranged.

You can then ask anything you like and feed it back.
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I didn't want to get into this as I know without a doubt the attacks that are going to come my way. But hey ho I am a big boy.

I have PM'ed who I thought could arrange this to work out exactly what is going on.

I do want to ask ML many questions however I am finding it very distasteful the way this has happened so far.

People having meetings with him and then not mentioning it on here. Until it is now starting to drip feed out.

The people who did not mention, what to many I think would be a pretty significant thing will have their own reasons.
Plus they are generally decent posters on here, they all did the same so like I say they must have their reasons.

However to start sending you my details to pass onto someone else would be me condoning what I think is a piss poor way of doing things.

This is leaving many thinking it is some sort of secret hand shake world and is not the way it should be done.

I did contact the person I believed was arranging things. My intention was to find out why little meetings like this were happening and when the main event was going to be and how can I attend the main forum.

It is there as I have done before where I will ask my questions in front of 50-300 people. (Whatever the number)

Yes I would love dearly a one on one but this whole process stinks and I am not up for playing these games. It is just bizarre

I believe you have my email address when I registered here. I would like to make contact to find out when the proper forum will be.
Or I am happy to attend a smaller one if it is all out in the open on here and not in the manner this has been happening to date.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #165
Whilst we are at it....

Lord can I ask how you were invited
Grendel can I ask how you were invited
Whistle can I ask how you were invited

Nick I know you attacked Schmee and myself when this question was asked before.

Hopefully this time I can just wait for an answer.
 
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  • Apr 19, 2014
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RegTheDonk

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  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #167
Thing is, even meeting ML or whoever, you're only hearing one side of the story.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #168
Rusty Trombone said:
Is that still your view? Did you ask whether SISU are looking to get out of the club asap, or are they looking for a long term return for their investors?

Thanks.
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There were two other people at the meeting. Both have inside knowledge and one in particular a previous association and a wealth of knowledge (i will refer to him as Mr A)The official line is sisu want the Ricoh either owned or on a long exclusive leasehold with their management company running the events management. If this does not happen then they will construct a stadium.

Mr a agreed with me. The stadium will not be built as it will make huge losses. His view was that sisu have not done much wrong and the council are very difficult to work with.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #169
RegTheDonk said:
Thing is, even meeting ML or whoever, you're only hearing one side of the story.
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Of course.

And maybe that's one of the many reasons not to bother reporting anything back.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #170
RegTheDonk said:
Thing is, even meeting ML or whoever, you're only hearing one side of the story.
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I didn't just meet him.
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #171
dongonzalos said:
I didn't want to get into this as I know without a doubt the attacks that are going to come my way. But hey ho I am a big boy.

I have PM'ed who I thought could arrange this to work out exactly what is going on.

I do want to ask ML many questions however I am finding it very distasteful the way this has happened so far.

People having meetings with him and then not mentioning it on here. Until it is now starting to drip feed out.

The people who did not mention, what to many I think would be a pretty significant thing will have their own reasons.
Plus they are generally decent posters on here, they all did the same so like I say they must have their reasons.

However to start sending you my details to pass onto someone else would be me condoning what I think is a piss poor way of doing things.

This is leaving many thinking it is some sort of secret hand shake world and is not the way it should be done.

I did contact the person I believed was arranging things. My intention was to find out why little meetings like this were happening and when the main event was going to be and how can I attend the main forum.

It is there as I have done before where I will ask my questions in front of 50-300 people. (Whatever the number)

Yes I would love dearly a one on one but this whole process stinks and I am not up for playing these games. It is just bizarre

I believe you have my email address when I registered here. I would like to make contact to find out when the proper forum will be.
Or I am happy to attend a smaller one if it is all out in the open on here and not in the manner this has been happening to date.
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Don't you know that the first rule of Discussion Club is that you don't talk about Discussion Club.

Actually that does make it sound like a debating club at school which wasn't quite the intention.....
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #172
Grendel said:
I didn't just meet him.
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"or whoever"
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #173
dongonzalos said:
I didn't want to get into this as I know without a doubt the attacks that are going to come my way. But hey ho I am a big boy.

I have PM'ed who I thought could arrange this to work out exactly what is going on.

I do want to ask ML many questions however I am finding it very distasteful the way this has happened so far.

People having meetings with him and then not mentioning it on here. Until it is now starting to drip feed out.

The people who did not mention, what to many I think would be a pretty significant thing will have their own reasons.
Plus they are generally decent posters on here, they all did the same so like I say they must have their reasons.

However to start sending you my details to pass onto someone else would be me condoning what I think is a piss poor way of doing things.

This is leaving many thinking it is some sort of secret hand shake world and is not the way it should be done.

I did contact the person I believed was arranging things. My intention was to find out why little meetings like this were happening and when the main event was going to be and how can I attend the main forum.

It is there as I have done before where I will ask my questions in front of 50-300 people. (Whatever the number)

Yes I would love dearly a one on one but this whole process stinks and I am not up for playing these games. It is just bizarre

I believe you have my email address when I registered here. I would like to make contact to find out when the proper forum will be.
Or I am happy to attend a smaller one if it is all out in the open on here and not in the manner this has been happening to date.
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Because you are saying you want to meet him so I am asking for your details, I am not going to give any bodies personal details out without permission which is why I'm asking for you to send them over if you wish to have a meeting.


It is then down to you too ask questions and up to you if you wish to share them.

This one particular meeting happened because I was contacted and asked if I would like to meet, I also asked if others were welcome to which they were so I invited a few people at short notice. If it seems dodgy it is down to me in this instance as I had to quickly try and get 5 or 6 people together.

There was actually no limit of people set or any vetting of people but being really busy myself I couldn't do that much and obviously didn't post much about it to not let people down.

Nobody was vetted before arriving, which was proven by last rocking up and sitting next to ml.

However they have been quite open that if others want to meet I am welcome to pass their details over.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #174
Nick said:
Because you are saying you want to meet him so I am asking for your details, I am not going to give any bodies personal details out without permission which is why I'm asking for you to send them over if you wish to have a meeting.


It is then down to you too ask questions and up to you if you wish to share them.

This one particular meeting happened because I was contacted and asked if I would like to meet, I also asked if others were welcome to which they were so I invited a few people at short notice. If it seems dodgy it is down to me in this instance as I had to quickly try and get 5 or 6 people together.

There was actually no limit of people set or any vetting of people but being really busy myself I couldn't do that much and obviously didn't post much about it to not let people down.

Nobody was vetted before arriving, which was proven by last rocking up and sitting next to ml.

However they have been quite open that if others want to meet I am welcome to pass their details over.
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Finally, explains the touchiness before.

Why was none of this explained just like that in the first place? Would have avoided a lot of unnecessary confusion.

Makes a lot more sense now.

Is there going to be a proper forum if so I am more than happy to stick with rather than these little smaller meetings.

So you yourself have had a meeting has it changed your opinion on things?

Do you see how plan A is viable?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #175
dongonzalos said:
Finally, explains the touchiness before.

Why was none of this explained just like that in the first place? Would have avoided a lot of unnecessary confusion.

Makes a lot more sense now.

Is there going to be a proper forum if so I am more than happy to stick with rather than these little smaller meetings.

So you yourself have had a meeting has it changed your opinion on things?

Do you see how plan A is viable?
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Returning to the Ricoh is Plan A
 
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