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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #351
dongonzalos said:
Yep keyboard warrior and mentally insane.........

Keep throwing the dirt eventually. People getting personal invites to meet ML.
Then meeting him and telling no one else about in here till a few days afterwards will seem perfectly normal to an insane keyboard warrior like me
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You seem to be morphing into George Hudson -- his posts make more sense than yours at the minute
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #352
dongonzalos said:
Strange, didn't think I would get answer to that one. No one has so far .....
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Because nobody needs to justify themselves do you, why does it matter when they met him? Why are you so bothered but won't go yourself when invited?

You keep moaning about nobody asking for questions, i am saying I can try to go one better so you can ask them yourself.

You are certainly taking a healthy interest, probably ten times more than people who went
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #353
Nick said:
I haven't said either of those about you, but you are the only one bothered and keeps going on about it.

If anybody else is bothered then feel free to pm me for a proper conversation.
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Ok

When were you first contacted to arrange the meetings with ML?

You said you choose people by who it was easiest to get hold of and who offer a spectrum of views? Why did you decide to rule out OSB and was there anyone else you ruled out?

What spectrum of views were mainly presented by those who attended?

When did you meet up with ML.

Why did you not decide to ask people on here if there was anything they particularly wanted asking, I think you were chosen due to your position on the forum?

When did you fist let people on here know you had met with ML?

What made you decide to let people know?

If you don't mind answering those questions open forum without PM i.e. transparency that would be great

The non border line obsessive, non keyboard warrior
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #354
dongonzalos said:
Ok

When were you first contacted to arrange the meetings with ML?

You said you choose people by who it was easiest to get hold of and who offer a spectrum of views? Why did you decide to rule out OSB and was there anyone else you ruled out?

What spectrum of views were mainly presented by those who attended?

When did you meet up with ML.

Why did you not decide to ask people on here if there was anything they particularly wanted asking, I think you were chosen due to your position on the forum?

When did you fist let people on here know you had met with ML?

What made you decide to let people know?

If you don't mind answering those questions open forum without PM i.e. transparency that would be great

The non border line obsessive, non keyboard warrior
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I have answered most of them before, a couple in posts tonight. The osb one certainly was answered, even astute understood.

Read the threads, pretty much all of those questions have been answered, probably to you.

You tell me why you are so obsessed, why you are too scared to meet him, what is your agenda and I will answer
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #355
Nick said:
I have answered most of them before, a couple in posts tonight. The osb one certainly was answered, even astute understood.

Read the threads, pretty much all of those questions have been answered, probably to you.

You tell me why you are so obsessed, why you are too scared to meet him, what is your agenda and I will answer
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Sorry nick I have never seen anyone answer those specific questions

Could you either point me to the specific answers or just answer now it is only 4 questions?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #356
dongonzalos said:
Sorry nick I have never seen anyone answer those specific questions

Could you either point me to the specific answers or just answer now it is only 4 questions?
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Can't see where you answered mine?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #357
Nick said:
Can't see where you answered mine?
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I will say it again then
Joe blogs Cov fan
No agenda, not connected to either side. Just want the plebs like me seeing and hearing everything everyone else is.

Now will you answer my questions fully and frankly please?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #358
Nick said:
I have answered most of them before, a couple in posts tonight. The osb one certainly was answered, even astute understood.
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Was this meant as an insult? Or do you see me as lacking intelligence as my views are different to your own?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #359
dongonzalos said:
I will say it again then
Joe blogs Cov fan
No agenda, not connected to either side. Just want the plebs like me seeing and hearing everything everyone else is.

Now will you answer my questions fully and frankly please?
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And why won't you meet him yourself?

Are you seriously telling me you haven't my answer about osb a few back? What will me telling you such random stuff like dates and times achieve? In fact it's so trivial I can't remember things like that.

Quite clearly there is more than just a joe bloggs fan interest
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #360
Astute said:
Was this meant as an insult? Or do you see me as lacking intelligence as my views are different to your own?
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No, I see you as somebody who usually has different views to me so if you understood my view it was saying things

Sorry if it seemed like an insult
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #361
Nick said:
And why won't you meet him yourself?

Are you seriously telling me you haven't my answer about osb a few back? What will me telling you such random stuff like dates and times achieve? In fact it's so trivial I can't remember things like that.

Quite clearly there is more than just a joe bloggs fan interest
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Really quick questions to answer to be fair

But if you don't fancy it fair enough

Yes Joe blogs fan pissed off with people constantly playing games nothing more just had enough of it to be honest.

Didn't expect it from fellow fans
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #362
Nick said:
You know fuck all, but you keep stirring stuff like you do.

I wanted everybody to be anonymous, there was an accountant there by chance but I don't think ML is an accountant so for him to be quizzed about detailed accounts stuff was probably way over his head too, so wouldn't be as effective. Everybody there was anonymous to ML, if there was somebody he knew I thought the meeting would have panned out differently as obviously things may not have been said or things covered over.

If OSB would like to have a chat with ML, then I would be happy to pass his details over but when the person there who was an accountant (who I am sure won't mind me saying probably hasn't studied the CCFC situation as much as OSB) asked about accountancy things, ML couldn't answer as it wasn't his field.

Again, why are you trying to stir as much as you are? Nobody else seems fussed, nobody else makes posts demanding apologies from individuals and yet you won't take me up on the offer on the chance to speak to him for yourself? Does he know who you are or something?
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My only problem with Mr Labovitch not being able to answer questions about the accounts is that (as I understand it) as a director of the company he would legally have had to sign off on the accounts. If it was me I'd want to know what I was signing off on just in case.
Having said that happy for our accountant to explain everything financial.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #363
Nick said:
No, I see you as somebody who usually has different views to me so if you understood my view it was saying things

Sorry if it seemed like an insult
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No problem Nick

We do agree on a lot of things. It is the bigger points we disagree on. Just like I am seen as anti SISU. I just don't like the way they do what is best for their investors and don't care about anything else. I just don't trust them. They haven't done anything to gain my trust.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #364
dongonzalos said:
Really quick questions to answer to be fair

But if you don't fancy it fair enough

Yes Joe blogs fan pissed off with people constantly playing games nothing more just had enough of it to be honest.

Didn't expect it from fellow fans
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Surely a fellow fan wouldn't need to know when what time abd where but more interested in content?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #365
James Smith said:
My only problem with Mr Labovitch not being able to answer questions about the accounts is that (as I understand it) as a director of the company he would legally have had to sign off on the accounts. If it was me I'd want to know what I was signing off on just in case.
Having said that happy for our accountant to explain everything.
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Which is why he promised a forum including Steve Brookfield in April. Which we still have no date for.

Plus when I ask about it I get an earful from people who have attended private meetings accusing me of having an agenda.

Well no I don't have an agenda you attended the private meetings, fine. However unfortunately the questions are still unanswered , when the bloody hell can we attend the proper meeting and get some proper questions answered!!!!

Excuse my frustration.....,,,,

Keyboard warrior, plant, and obsessive call me what you like I just want very basic questions answered

How can we pay back our investors after borrowing 75 million plus?

What harm can the council do us if we rent the Ricoh whilst building our new stadium?

What does it mean financially to us(ccfc) to own the freehold over a dirt cheap long term rent including the most F and B we can get?

How does the above compare to the interest on owning our own stadium?

The accounts question way above my head about the fall in fixed assets? ( may need clarification on this one)
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #366
James Smith said:
My only problem with Mr Labovitch not being able to answer questions about the accounts is that (as I understand it) as a director of the company he would legally have had to sign off on the accounts. If it was me I'd want to know what I was signing off on just in case.
Having said that happy for our accountant to explain everything financial.
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Of course he will know about the accounts. His problem is that it would take a lot of spin to make them look only bad. Just like with Deering in court. She had lots to say unless it was a hard question to make sound good. She then knew nothing. Or made out as though she didn't understand the question to give her time to think.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #367
Nick said:
Surely a fellow fan wouldn't need to know when what time abd where but more interested in content?
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And still no answers....,.

The content would have came when you got back from the meeting if you wanted the plebs to know....
 
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1940 oldfive

Guest
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #368
more chance of winning lotto or having tims shed built
dongonzalos said:
Hopefully the format will be a question is asked and we don't move onto the next one until it has actually been directly answered. No diversions. Also hopefully it is down to the supporters to ask whatever question they want.
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #369
Grendel said:
Well, a few sycophants on this site have said it yes.

I thought of OSB the other day when the spin function on my washing machine packed up.
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I thought you might have called in your own accountant for that. Mind you, a spin cycle goes past 10rpm and we all know that your accountant struggles when he's ran out of fingers. You're right, OSB would have been a much better option.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #370
dongonzalos said:
Which is why he promised a forum including Steve Brookfield in April. Which we still have no date for.

Plus when I ask about it I get an earful from people who have attended private meetings accusing me of having an agenda.

Well no I don't have an agenda you attended the private meetings, fine. However unfortunately the questions are still unanswered , when the bloody hell can we attend the proper meeting and get some proper questions answered!!!!

Excuse my frustration.....,,,,

Keyboard warrior, plant, and obsessive call me what you like I just want very basic questions answered

How can we pay back our investors after borrowing 75 million plus?

What harm can the council do us if we rent the Ricoh whilst building our new stadium?

What does it mean financially to us(ccfc) to own the freehold over a dirt cheap long term rent including the most F and B we can get?

How does the above compare to the interest on owning our own stadium?

The accounts question way above my head about the fall in fixed assets? ( may need clarification on this one)
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So why don't you meet him to ask these?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #371
skybluetony176 said:
I thought you might have called in your own accountant for that. Mind you, a spin cycle goes past 10rpm and we all know that your accountant struggles when he's ran out of fingers. You're right, OSB would have been a much better option.
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In all seriousness are you suggesting my accountant is not qualified? I don't think he will be impressed with that. Are you?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #372
dongonzalos said:
And still no answers....,.

The content would have came when you got back from the meeting if you wanted the plebs to know....
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You still haven't answered why you won't go and see him yourself....

Why are you so bothered about dates and times?

Have you demanded the trust tell you every time they meet somebody? Dates and times etc.
 
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_brian_

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #373
Nick: You want answers?
dongonzalos: I think I'm entitled!
Nick: You want answers?!
dongonzalos: I want the truth!
Nick: You can't handle the truth!

LOL!!! Love it!!!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #374
Nick said:
You still haven't answered why you won't go and see him yourself....

Why are you so bothered about dates and times?

Have you demanded the trust tell you every time they meet somebody? Dates and times etc.
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Hi nick

I have absolutely no ambition to go myself but if you were to ask me who should go I would without doubt say OSB and Fernando. They are easily the best two posters when it comes to making a point and if they both met ML together I would dare say it would be the most balanced and well executed meeting any fans could have with ML.

I don't know if either have met with him yet or if both would be interested but if you do have scope to assist in making more meetings happen this would be the meeting of my choice.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #375
skybluetony176 said:
Hi nick

I have absolutely no ambition to go myself but if you were to ask me who should go I would without doubt say OSB and Fernando. They are easily the best two posters when it comes to making a point and if they both met ML together I would dare say it would be the most balanced and well executed meeting any fans could have with ML.

I don't know if either have met with him yet or if both would be interested but if you do have scope to assist in making more meetings happen this would be the meeting of my choice.
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As I have said, if people would like to meet him or have a chat I'm happy to pass their details on
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #376
Nick said:
You still haven't answered why you won't go and see him yourself....

Why are you so bothered about dates and times?

Have you demanded the trust tell you every time they meet somebody? Dates and times etc.
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Not really because they tell us if they are planning to ML and they tell us about it afterwards as well.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #377
dongonzalos said:
Not really because they tell us if they are planning to ML and they tell us about it afterwards as well.
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Ah ok, so you know every time they have met them? Time and date?
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2014
  • #378
dongonzalos said:
Not really because they tell us if they are planning to ML and they tell us about it afterwards as well.
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What have they asked?

How was the meeting arranged ?

Who decided who could go?
 
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