Fans back in grounds in September

Sick Boy

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Fair comment but i still thibk fans will be back soon

Italy and Spain want fans back possibly for last few games of this season and thrybwere hit hard

Septemeber for sure
The lockdowns in both countries were much stricter, life here has been mostly back to normal since early June.
 

hill83

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Lower deaths while everyone was still acting in a normal manner. Going out, meeting up, close contact. We've got a higher death toll from this while not doing those things. Had we not the deaths would be significantly more with higher transmission and overwhelming of healthcare capacity (unfortunately had we acted sooner they could also have been much lower)
Don't you remember the big Winter99 Lockdown? Mental times.
 
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cc84cov

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I don’t think September is viable on current data, a second spike has to be ruled out or a vaccine
Second spike ? Have you not seen the mass protests around the world ? Why haven’t we had it now surly the protests of 1000’s of people gathering around the world would of made a second spike.
 
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David O'Day

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Second spike ? Have you not seen the mass protests around the world ? Why haven’t we had it now surly the protests of 1000’s of people gathering around the world would of made a second spike.
There have been 2nd spikes?
 

skyblueelephant76

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Second spike ? Have you not seen the mass protests around the world ? Why haven’t we had it now surly the protests of 1000’s of people gathering around the world would of made a second spike.
It will take a couple of weeks for the effects of the protests to be seen. There are currently places in the Midlands (Nuneaton, Leicester) where numbers are going up not down
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Second spike ? Have you not seen the mass protests around the world ? Why haven’t we had it now surly the protests of 1000’s of people gathering around the world would of made a second spike.
There won’t be a second spike
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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I think it’s a fair challenge to ask what is the risk outdoors and what can be done safely but to suggest things have gone when you look at Brazil, India, USA, Mexico, Chile

And more importantly

Iran

And very close to home

Nuneaton and Leicester
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Hardly, look at the figures compared to April we aren’t spiking anymore
But we're reducing at a far slower rate than almost everywhere else. That is the 'spike'. Only countries doing as badly as us are US and Brazil who coincidentally also opened up the economies faster than elsewhere. Do you think those things are unrelated?
 

mr_monkey

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Tell that to the relitives

Tell that to the relatives of the 135 who died yesterday.
135 deaths were reported yesterday not died yesterday, and again all with the virus in the system, not of the virus.... But don't let facts get in the way of trying to prove a point ;)

The whole thing is thankfully slowing down and properly managed we should hopefully not see a second spike in the near future. What has to be looked at is preparing for a possible second spike later in the year (as per the flu)
 
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skybluelee

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But we're reducing at a far slower rate than almost everywhere else. That is the 'spike'. Only countries doing as badly as us are US and Brazil who coincidentally also opened up the economies faster than elsewhere. Do you think those things are unrelated?
That really isn't 'the spike'. Numbers of deaths are consistently falling and have been since they peaked in mid-April. For me the next few weeks are going to tell us whether a 2nd spike is likely. Infection rates have stalled at around 1,200-1,300 for the last week or so (possibly linked to increased testing). Any impact from the recent mass gatherings will start to be felt in the infection rates very soon, and then obviously later in the death numbers. If in a month's time the death rate is still falling it will be interesting to see what the Government's next steps are to opening up the country further. Opening stadiums with limited capacity in September seems like a possibility in those circumstances to me.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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That really isn't 'the spike'. Numbers of deaths are consistently falling and have been since they peaked in mid-April. For me the next few weeks are going to tell us whether a 2nd spike is likely. Infection rates have stalled at around 1,200-1,300 for the last week or so (possibly linked to increased testing). Any impact from the recent mass gatherings will start to be felt in the infection rates very soon, and then obviously later in the death numbers. If in a month's time the death rate is still falling it will be interesting to see what the Government's next steps are to opening up the country further. Opening stadiums with limited capacity in September seems like a possibility in those circumstances to me.
Compare to elsewhere rather than our own numbers. The trend shows we're going down a lot slower than elsewhere. So that suggests our infection level is above where it should be. If you look at ours in isolation of course you can say "it's going down". Compare it to others and it's "we've fucked this up". Why do you think the govt don't bother with the comparison slides anymore? Because they know it shows their response to look awful and incompetent.

Of course these other places could see a 'proper spike' because they've reduced their infections levels far more and opening up with therefore increase them by a greater extent whereas if we do it won't look as bad because we never got it down that much to begin with.
 

usskyblue

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According to that Peterborough dickhead there's no problems at all and its just the media making an issue out of nothing as Trump is doing a rally there.
It can’t even be called a second spike. Since reopening it’s increased so steeply, it’s more like the first big wave.

The rallies will be natural selection for his band of brainless sheep.