Fans back in grounds in September

Magwitch

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Can’t see it to be honest, not saying it couldn’t be done there has been talk on radio of allowing 10% of capacity so in our case just under 3000 and have a queuing system like they do at B&Q no concourse refreshments but the government are worried to death of a spike in transmissions. I suppose with two months to go things might ease and be clearer by September but I still reckon it will nearer Christmas if then.
 

ccfcricoh

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I think we'll be back in Sep/Oct.

Still potentially 3 months until season starts and 3 months ago lock down hadn't officially started i dont think, i've lost track of time!

Long time to go yet, as said above though, assuming no second spike.
 
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If there is a second spike it will likely be the Christmas new year period. I would suggest socially distanced fans from September and if no spike by March back to capacity.
 

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I want to be back at stadiums as quickly as possible. I do think it's possible that you could alter the experience to create a social distancing environment at a stadium, whether football fans would adhere to it is a whole different topic of conversation. The idea that we will 'fully be back to normal' is straight up fucking mental. Do people think it's just going to disappear? We're still having 150+ people die a day with the current measures in place. With the huge caveat that there's going to be a lot of people who have had it and not been confirmed cases, but confirmed cases are 300,000. With a population of 70,000,000 that means one in 233 people have been confirmed as having had it or 0.42%. Obviously, this figure doesn't paint the full picture as many (most likely including myself) have had it and not had a test to confirm it. But even the more liberal estimates are at around 5% of population. Long, long way to go before we go back to normal. And if we do go back to normal in the near future, we certainly won't be going to football games in September.
 
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Kingokings204

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I think we will be back also by September. It can’t go on forever and with the dire financials to the whole country I think it will be a case of let’s get back to normal ASAP.
Football clubs simply won’t last otherwise
 

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I think we will be back also by September. It can’t go on forever and with the dire financials to the whole country I think it will be a case of let’s get back to normal ASAP.
Football clubs simply won’t last otherwise
I think it’s going to have to - there was a report yesterday that estimated 50% of theatres will go bust unless returns are in place by September and the same applies to football and other service sectors
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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I think it’s going to have to - there was a report yesterday that estimated 50% of theatres will go bust unless returns are in place by September and the same applies to football and other service sectors
The London theatre show that I had booked for May was postponed and we rebooked for December. Received an email last night that it is cancelled until at least March 2021.
 

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Germany today announced no large events will be held until November at the earliest, and they've had it a lot better than us. The fact that football clubs/theatres etc could go bust seems like it should be irrelevant (it's not as if the virus cares) but then again the US seems like it's pressing on with reopening regardless, so just depends whether we want to be more like them or more like Germany.
 

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A vaccine would change things
I'm slightly involved in the trials which have been going well and millions of doses are being manufactured right now to distribute if its proved to work and gets approval
It's the first time that meds have been made before approval but billions of funding have been put in by the UK, USA and Bill Gates etc
The idea is to supply it world wide at low cost
Fingers crossed
 

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The rate at which this is dropping I can see it being long gone by September

Mass crowds gathering why hasn’t it spiked again.
 

skybluesam66

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the way the trends are going we should be down to single figure deaths by August
At that point, you would then want a couple of months stability to end of September, and then build back up gradually

eg
Start of season 15% -25% capacity
New year 50%
 

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A vaccine would change things
I'm slightly involved in the trials which have been going well and millions of doses are being manufactured right now to distribute if its proved to work and gets approval
It's the first time that meds have been made before approval but billions of funding have been put in by the UK, USA and Bill Gates etc
The idea is to supply it world wide at low cost
Fingers crossed
Mate, who are you!?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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Whilst, I would love everything to return to pre-COVID days, I'm not sure that's feasible yet.
The "R" rate is still very close to one or slightly above it in some places. Until we have a comprehensive track and trace system in place we are acting without enough deductive data. The government are even saying that the App will not be working until the winter.
There is evidence that sunlight helps against the virus, but going into the shorter days there is an obvious risk of increased contraction of this horrible virus. The government has not dismantled the Nightingale hospitals, as part of their contingency plans for a second autumn/winter spike in the rate.
 

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I do think it's possible that you could alter the experience to create a social distancing environment at a stadium, whether football fans would adhere to it is a whole different topic of conversation.
We can't get people to sit in the right seat let alone stick to social distancing rules!

The biggest problem is getting people in and out. Most of the talk I've heard about bringing fans back involves starting to get people into the ground earlier than normal. We know from experience that is hard to do. Every time we have a 'big' game people are told to turn up early, ignore the advice, turn up five minutes before kick off and complain when there's a queue.
 

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The rate at which this is dropping I can see it being long gone by September

Mass crowds gathering why hasn’t it spiked again.
What mass crowds are there either indoors or in the same location for ages? Protests outdoors and moving, lots wearing face masks too. Very different to sitting still for two hours all shouting at the top of their voice.

Big spikes before came from things like Cheltenham and the Liverpool game with thousands of people static for a long time.

Our second wave was care homes, we may not have a third but the first two are dropping at a far slower rate than most countries saw because of the lax lockdown. I wouldn’t get complacent. Look at China, Iran, Korea, Germany, where localised small outbreaks from enclosed spaces have meant bringing back measures.
 
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larry_david

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We got an email from the local league yesterday saying they are aiming to return 6 aside on 13th July. I applaud their optimism
 

shmmeee

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In japan they are having 50% capacity crowds starting in July

And that's indoor!
Japan had 33 cases yesterday and no deaths, has strict immigration rules and a populace used to social distancing, with experience of SARS, and very compliant with government instructions. We are not Japan by any measure.
 

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Whilst, I would love everything to return to pre-COVID days, I'm not sure that's feasible yet.
The "R" rate is still very close to one or slightly above it in some places. Until we have a comprehensive track and trace system in place we are acting without enough deductive data. The government are even saying that the App will not be working until the winter.
There is evidence that sunlight helps against the virus, but going into the shorter days there is an obvious risk of increased contraction of this horrible virus. The government has not dismantled the Nightingale hospitals, as part of their contingency plans for a second autumn/winter spike in the rate.
Sunlight helps! jeesh we just had a couple of months sunshine never seen before in the UK and we have one of the highest death rates?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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Sunlight helps! jeesh we just had a couple of months sunshine never seen before in the UK and we have one of the highest death rates?
That's because we locked down too late, there was not track and trace system in place and we've failed to seal our borders. In short our governments response has been weak.
As for sunlight it does help a little....but my point was that that minimal impact disappears in the shorter days, so come autumn there is increased chance of a second spike.
 

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The rate at which this is dropping I can see it being long gone by September

Mass crowds gathering why hasn’t it spiked again.
Because it acts like any other virus and is burning itself out

I can see something similar at sporting events as they are doing in cinemas, with families/bubbled people together and then a two gap between them and the next people in their row and then empty seats behind them and then people behind the empty seats

Massive undertaking but should work especially as the virus isn't as prevalent outdoors. The major issue is the getting into and out from the ground, as at a cinema that's easy but trying to do it with 1000s of people is going to take some massive planning
 
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Magwitch

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A vaccine would change things
I'm slightly involved in the trials which have been going well and millions of doses are being manufactured right now to distribute if its proved to work and gets approval
It's the first time that meds have been made before approval but billions of funding have been put in by the UK, USA and Bill Gates etc
The idea is to supply it world wide at low cost
Fingers crossed
A vaccine is the ultimate answer perhaps the only way normality as we knew it returns, we keep being told it’s almost here but as yet nothing and then other “experts” say it’s months even a couple of years away but then does being vaccinated make you protected immediately somehow doubt that, going to be a long time from full capacity support but I do think
there could be mileage in something like the suggested 10% limits.
 

skybluesam66

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so in the last 38 days , there have been 13 covid deaths in cov
in the 43 previous days there were 206 deaths (almost 5 a day)
The last death was on june 4th (death free for 2 weeks)

we have virtually the same number of days in total before the end of September
 

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A vaccine is the ultimate answer perhaps the only way normality as we knew it returns, we keep being told it’s almost here but as yet nothing and then other “experts” say it’s months even a couple of years away but then does being vaccinated make you protected immediately somehow doubt that, going to be a long time from full capacity support but I do think
there could be mileage in something like the suggested 10% limits.
Completely understand why people are keen to go to games again (I'm really missing away days), but I really can't see us been allowed in until spring next year. I think winter is when the second spike is likely to hit. I think it is also a good point that lower leagues simply won't survive without crowds though. Is there a possibility that next season won't be played at all? The only way it can be is if the premier league provides funds to league 1 and 2 as far as I am concerned.