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skybluesam66

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #1
So they are going back to October 1 plan to be allowed back into stadiums

can’t see it happening. But fingers crossed
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #2
I can't see it happening either, we are probably going to be lucky if we can go to work.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #3
I can’t see it happening safely. The question is will it being unsafe stop them.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #4
Are they still talking 17% of capacity ? Hope I am wrong but personally
I think it wishful thinking.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #5
I wonder if they will make facemasks compulsory?
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #6
Nick said:
I wonder if they will make facemasks compulsory?
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Good job Oggy has left would need one specially made, that would put a dent in the budget.
 

Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #7
Nick said:
I wonder if they will make facemasks compulsory?
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They can't make face masks compulsory. Face masks aren't compulsory now, so says the guidance.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #8
Even if I'm allowed in I might give it a miss for a bit, not too worried about the safety issue it's just that it will be miles distanced out, no away fans, no atmosphere at all, may as well save myself a big drive, loads of cash and watch on ifollow.
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #9
More stuff now opening up play areas etc I can’t see another lockdown coming im confident regarding fans back in
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #10
Hadji's_Goatee said:
They can't make face masks compulsory. Face masks aren't compulsory now, so says the guidance.
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Government guidance hasn't made them compulsory but a private enterprise can do what they want.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #11
Hadji's_Goatee said:
They can't make face masks compulsory. Face masks aren't compulsory now, so says the guidance.
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They can refuse you entry to the ground for whatever reason they want.

With the amount of shouting that will inevitably happen at a football match (and associated spit-ball lips) i’d be quite surprised if they didn’t make them compulsory. CCFC branded ones could make some dosh for the club too!
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #12
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
They can refuse you entry to the ground for whatever reason they want.

With the amount of shouting that will inevitably happen at a football match (and associated spit-ball lips) i’d be quite surprised if they didn’t make them compulsory. CCFC branded ones could make some dosh for the club too!
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No shouting allowed

Football fans won't be allowed to sing or chant when they return

Fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside stadiums again and that is likely to include a ban on singing and chanting.
www.google.co.uk
 

Nick

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #13
Hadji's_Goatee said:
They can't make face masks compulsory. Face masks aren't compulsory now, so says the guidance.
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They are if you want entry into the city shop.

Although, policing it at a game is a different story to a tiny shop.
 
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gazza

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #14
Grendel said:
No shouting allowed

Football fans won't be allowed to sing or chant when they return

Fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside stadiums again and that is likely to include a ban on singing and chanting.
www.google.co.uk
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What about booing?
 

Greggs

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #15
Nick said:
I wonder if they will make facemasks compulsory?
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I wonder too! But hey-ho....it'll soon be Monday so we can all pile in pubs and restaurants for 50% off food. Bizarre
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #16
Good luck stopping shouting and singing

Who makes this garbage it’s like the 14 day quarantine I don’t know anyone who’s done it nobody gives a shit bit Boris keeps adding countries to the list their so out of touch with reality
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #17
It's not been confirmed that fans are allowed back from the 1st October. That's the intention if the pilots go well and there's no further mass outbreaks. Could be later than that still.
 

Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #18
The guidance includes exemptions. If an establishment chooses to query a person who classifies themselves as exempt (not wearing a mask) then they risk being fined under the Equality Act of 2010 because of discrimination for singling a person out for proof of medical history, condition or otherwise.

This is why all major retail establishments DO NOT challenge people who do not wear a mask.

The fine is up to £5,000 and up to £9,000 compensation for the individual.

The executive guidance from the Government is classed as civil law, therefore not even the Police can enforce it, as they are there to uphold criminal law only.

 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #19
Hadji's_Goatee said:
The guidance includes exemptions. If an establishment chooses to query a person who classifies themselves as exempt (not wearing a mask) then they risk being fined under the Equality Act of 2010 because of discrimination for singling a person out for proof of medical history, condition or otherwise.

This is why all major retail establishments DO NOT challenge people who do not wear a mask.

The fine is up to £5,000 and up to £9,000 compensation for the individual.

The executive guidance from the Government is classed as civil law, therefore not even the Police can enforce it, as they are there to uphold criminal law only.

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So they will probably do what everyone else does and make it a ‘rule’ that they won’t enforce and that loads will ignore. Which is all well and good until the evidence starts emerging of spikes in infection rates after games (such as the Liverpool /Madrid game) and they make it all BCD again. I guess ultimately if fans don’t behave then it will lead to no fans again.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #20
Grendel said:
No shouting allowed

Football fans won't be allowed to sing or chant when they return

Fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside stadiums again and that is likely to include a ban on singing and chanting.
www.google.co.uk
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Can you imagine nobody shouting at a football match? Or even them policing it? Can still see shouting, banned or not. Sometimes people react without thinking first! Although Burge leaving helps with that one...
 

Nick

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #21
Hadji's_Goatee said:
The guidance includes exemptions. If an establishment chooses to query a person who classifies themselves as exempt (not wearing a mask) then they risk being fined under the Equality Act of 2010 because of discrimination for singling a person out for proof of medical history, condition or otherwise.

This is why all major retail establishments DO NOT challenge people who do not wear a mask.

The fine is up to £5,000 and up to £9,000 compensation for the individual.

The executive guidance from the Government is classed as civil law, therefore not even the Police can enforce it, as they are there to uphold criminal law only.

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If somebody is exempt then don't they need to display something that says they are?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #22
Nick said:
If somebody is exempt then don't they need to display something that says they are?
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No.

Some choose to voluntarily, to stop people asking, but no compulsion.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #23
cc84cov said:
Good luck stopping shouting and singing

Who makes this garbage it’s like the 14 day quarantine I don’t know anyone who’s done it nobody gives a shit bit Boris keeps adding countries to the list their so out of touch with reality
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Unfortunately, the 'no one gives a shit' members of society will mean its less likely that football grounds will be allowed to open.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 14, 2020
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Deleted member 5849 said:
No.

Some choose to voluntarily, to stop people asking, but no compulsion.
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In which case if people don't have something to say they are exempt they shouldn't moan if asked to put one on!
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #25
Irish Sky Blue said:
Unfortunately, the 'no one gives a shit' members of society will mean its less likely that football grounds will be allowed to open.
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Do you mean Dominic Cummings....as he's made up his own rules and Boris says that's fine!
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 14, 2020
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BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Can you imagine nobody shouting at a football match?
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Yeah, been to the Emirates once before.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #27
Irish Sky Blue said:
Unfortunately, the 'no one gives a shit' members of society will mean its less likely that football grounds will be allowed to open.
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The cabinet?
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #28
I'm certainly no fan of Johnson and his cronies. You're right, the problem with the Cummins affair is that it makes people less likely to follow the guidance.
However, there does seem to be a sizable proportion of society who have a 'don't give a shit' attitude that will inevitably make the situation worse and make the further opening up of restrictions less likely.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #29
Irish Sky Blue said:
I'm certainly no fan of Johnson and his cronies. You're right, the problem with the Cummins affair is that it makes people less likely to follow the guidance.
However, there does seem to be a sizable proportion of society who have a 'don't give a shit' attitude that will inevitably make the situation worse and make the further opening up of restrictions less likely.
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Thatchers children are now running around as adults, bought up being told there is no society and not to give a shit about anything but what's best for them.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #30
Nick said:
In which case if people don't have something to say they are exempt they shouldn't moan if asked to put one on!
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Thing is you can’t expect people to get evidence of their mental illness that prevents them from wearing one. I don’t mean that in a sarcy way, severe anxiety, for example, can be one valid reason for not wearing one but nobody wants to admit their mental (or physical) health state in a queue of strangers.
 
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Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #31
I find it concerning that society has been altered to view freedom as being selfish.

 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #32
Hadji's_Goatee said:
They can't make face masks compulsory. Face masks aren't compulsory now, so says the guidance.
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If they put it in the stadium rules they probably could. They can stop you taking bottles and umbrellas in and to the best of my knowledge they're not banned in general. So saying mask on anywhere within the stadium or you get your details taken for contact tracing and then chucked out would definitely be within their control.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #33
Hadji's_Goatee said:
I find it concerning that society has been altered to view freedom as being selfish.

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I find it concerning that we’ve adopted the childish view of “freedom” from the Yanks that means “I do what I want and have no responsibilities” TBH.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #34
No singing, sitting miles away from other fans, probably no away fans, mile long queues for toilets, no beer, no packed pubs etc.

Many won't want to go back. Will be a scramble for the first few games then people will realise you can watch at home or pub on Ifollow or Sky more easily and cheaper.

Football for many is about the fan culture, that will be non-existent all season. For many that will be a reason not to go. Add to that the recession and people losing jobs.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 14, 2020
  • #35
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Thing is you can’t expect people to get evidence of their mental illness that prevents them from wearing one. I don’t mean that in a sarcy way, severe anxiety, for example, can be one valid reason for not wearing one but nobody wants to admit their mental (or physical) health state in a queue of strangers.
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It doesn't have to go into details, think of it as a blue badge type thing.

Although as somebody who has suffered with severe anxiety then going to Tesco wasn't the top of my list on days out.
 
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