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Paul Anthony

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #386
I can't even with this team. What a total team bottlejob this has been.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #387
No need to try and be clever at this stage of the season
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #388
Paul Anthony said:
I can't even with this team. What a total team bottlejob this has been.
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Ive said all year mate, neither McLaren driver deserves this title. Max has been better, and Red Bull operationally leathe Mclaren out of the park
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #389
Saddlebrains said:
Ive said all year mate, neither McLaren driver deserves this title. Max has been better, and Red Bull operationally leathe Mclaren out of the park
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But today wasn't on the drivers. It was on probably the worst strategy call I've seen a team make since Ferrari fumbled the title for Alonso in 2010.

There was so much talk before the race about pitting on lap 7, and that was without a safety car. As soon as it was lap 7 under a safety car, boxing one driver at least should have been a given. I don't think you even needed to be particularly well qualified to see that was the case. It's total amateur hour by the strategists.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #390
I understand the "we didn't think everyone would pit" to a point, but at least offset the two of them. Could have played it safe with Oscar because he's leading and bring him in to match up with Max, do something a bit rogue with Lando in case it works out and he gets ahead of him
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #391
SkyBlueSoul said:
I understand the "we didn't think everyone would pit" to a point, but at least offset the two of them. Could have played it safe with Oscar because he's leading and bring him in to match up with Max, do something a bit rogue with Lando in case it works out and he gets ahead of him
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McLaren were never going to split the strategies. Imagine if they only pit Oscar and not Lando, and they finish P1 vs P5. Or vice versa. Basically decides the championship.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #392
If Verstappen wins the final race, as I think he will, Lando needs to finish second. Could be tight.

I wonder if team orders might come into play if, with a few laps to go, Piastri is second and Lando third. I suspect they will, although for me it would slightly taint the title.
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #393
StrettoBoy said:
If Verstappen wins the final race, as I think he will, Lando needs to finish second. Could be tight.

I wonder if team orders might come into play if, with a few laps to go, Piastri is second and Lando third. I suspect they will, although for me it would slightly taint the title.
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Nah Lando only needs 3rd

In theory it should be fairly straightforward. Qualify top 3, let Verstappen and Piastri fight it out for the win and bring the car home 3rd.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Nov 30, 2025
  • #394
skybluecam said:
McLaren were never going to split the strategies. Imagine if they only pit Oscar and not Lando, and they finish P1 vs P5. Or vice versa. Basically decides the championship.
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And instead they chose the option that guaranteed they were going to lose the race and put them under even more pressure in the championship. It was the wrong call, and when it all dies down tomorrow, even they'll admit that.

When you're fighting for a title with both drivers, there will be situations where you simply can't make decisions based on fairness for both drivers. At some point you'll have to make a decision that's ruthless and upsets one side or the other. Today was one of them and they chose the worst possible option.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #395
Paul Anthony said:
And instead they chose the option that guaranteed they were going to lose the race and put them under even more pressure in the championship. It was the wrong call, and when it all dies down tomorrow, even they'll admit that.

When you're fighting for a title with both drivers, there will be situations where you simply can't make decisions based on fairness for both drivers. At some point you'll have to make a decision that's ruthless and upsets one side or the other. Today was one of them and they chose the worst possible option.
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They should probably have just pit them both, but it would have lost Lando a few positions that he would’ve struggled to get back (given he couldn’t overtake on fresher tyres).

But Oscar would’ve won the race yeah.
 

StrettoBoy

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #396
skybluecam said:
Nah Lando only needs 3rd

In theory it should be fairly straightforward. Qualify top 3, let Verstappen and Piastri fight it out for the win and bring the car home 3rd.
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Ah, that makes a difference. They said he would need second but perhaps that was before he managed to snatch fourth place on the penultimate lap.
 

StrettoBoy

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #397
StrettoBoy said:
Ah, that makes a difference. They said he would need second but perhaps that was before he managed to snatch fourth place on the penultimate lap.
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Spot on @skybluecam

It was clinching fourth that made the difference. Could be quite a big difference because, all things being equal, you would usually expect Verstappen, Norris and Piastri to be on the podium.

I hope Lando tries to get the win though. I think it could be dangerous to drive for third.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #398
skybluecam said:
McLaren were never going to split the strategies. Imagine if they only pit Oscar and not Lando, and they finish P1 vs P5. Or vice versa. Basically decides the championship.
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It's stupid, just when you think they can't back themselves into a corner any more in the pursuit of ultimate fairness
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #399
Saw this online which is very useful (assuming it's correct, haven't gone through and checked)

 
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covcity4life

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #400
Should be a fun last race. Hopefully lando gets over the line. Literally
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Dec 1, 2025
  • #401
Kimi Antonelli is 19 years old, in his first full season of F1. He made a genuine mistake last night, and now, because Red Bull are just that toxic and have been allowed to be for far too long, he's recieving death threats.

It's time someone told Helmut Marko to step back and belt up. If Red Bull aren't going to do it, then the FIA need to take action. Even by his toxic standards, this is bang out of order.
 
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tisza

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  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #402
can't be bothered to calculate all the permutations - could even the fastest lap 1 pt be a factor??
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #403
tisza said:
can't be bothered to calculate all the permutations - could even the fastest lap 1 pt be a factor??
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They got rid of that after last season.


Permutations here though
SkyBlueSoul said:
Saw this online which is very useful (assuming it's correct, haven't gone through and checked)

View attachment 47500
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #404
SkyBlueSoul said:
They got rid of that after last season.


Permutations here though
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Ha watched a full season (and because Sky still highlight fastest race lap with that purple icon) hadn't realised it had gone
 
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Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #405
So, how are McLaren going to totally bottle it this weekend?
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #406
Paul Anthony said:
So, how are McLaren going to totally bottle it this weekend?
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Oscar will absolutely send one down the inside of Lando tomorrow 100%
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #407
Saddlebrains said:
Oscar will absolutely send one down the inside of Lando tomorrow 100%
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I can definitely see it. Can't imagine hellebe too keen to obey any team orders.

In all seriousness, I just hope we get a clean race with no nonsense to spoil it. It'd be massive a shame if this title was decided like 2021 or with a Jerez 1997 type move.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #408
Paul Anthony said:
I can definitely see it. Can't imagine hellebe too keen to obey any team orders.

In all seriousness, I just hope we get a clean race with no nonsense to spoil it. It'd be massive a shame if this title was decided like 2021 or with a Jerez 1997 type move.
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Agreed. I want to see proper wheel to wheel all or nothing shenanigans
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2025
  • #409
going to be a strategy race. Max will have to back the pack up and hope someone can attack McClarens from behind. Then he risks exposing himself to the undercut. Could it all be about pitstops and yellow flags? Lando just has to survive the first lap even if Oscar sends one. Plus there will be team orders if Max streaks away or another scenario requires it.
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #410
Lap 2 and Lando is already trying to bottle it by dropping off too far.
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #411
Honestly, piss off Red Bull.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #412
Paul Anthony said:
Honestly, piss off Red Bull.
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They must teach their drivers just to race their own track and nuts to everyone else...
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #413
I can see this one boiling down to who Piastri would rather win the championship. Leclerc is being a bit of a nuisance.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #414
Yuki: Penalty for what, bro?

Engineer: For turning for corners on a part of the track where there isn't any
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #415
Called it would be a boring procession
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #416
I thought Leclerc was gonna give Lando trouble towards the end, but is disappearing as the tyres wear.
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #417
Phew!!!!!! Get in Lando!
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #418
I'm quick enough to slate him, so I'll be quick enough to give him the kudos

Congratulations Lando Norris. An amazing comeback after Zandvoort, showed a pace and mental strength i didn’t think he had

I always miss the F1 . 89 days until we do it all again
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #419
An outstanding drivers championship this season and thrilled for Lando to take it in the end. Can't wait for the next season and all the changes coming.
 
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StrettoBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 7, 2025
  • #420
Well done Lando!



Just go and do it again next year It will be interesting to see how it goes with all the technical changes.

It might even be George Russell next season.
 
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