Paul Anthony
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I can't even with this team. What a total team bottlejob this has been.
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SkyBlueSoul
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No need to try and be clever at this stage of the season
Saddlebrains
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Ive said all year mate, neither McLaren driver deserves this title. Max has been better, and Red Bull operationally leathe Mclaren out of the park
Paul Anthony
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But today wasn't on the drivers. It was on probably the worst strategy call I've seen a team make since Ferrari fumbled the title for Alonso in 2010.
There was so much talk before the race about pitting on lap 7, and that was without a safety car. As soon as it was lap 7 under a safety car, boxing one driver at least should have been a given. I don't think you even needed to be particularly well qualified to see that was the case. It's total amateur hour by the strategists.
SkyBlueSoul
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I understand the "we didn't think everyone would pit" to a point, but at least offset the two of them. Could have played it safe with Oscar because he's leading and bring him in to match up with Max, do something a bit rogue with Lando in case it works out and he gets ahead of him
skybluecam
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McLaren were never going to split the strategies. Imagine if they only pit Oscar and not Lando, and they finish P1 vs P5. Or vice versa. Basically decides the championship.
StrettoBoy
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If Verstappen wins the final race, as I think he will, Lando needs to finish second. Could be tight.
I wonder if team orders might come into play if, with a few laps to go, Piastri is second and Lando third. I suspect they will, although for me it would slightly taint the title.
I wonder if team orders might come into play if, with a few laps to go, Piastri is second and Lando third. I suspect they will, although for me it would slightly taint the title.
skybluecam
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Nah Lando only needs 3rd
In theory it should be fairly straightforward. Qualify top 3, let Verstappen and Piastri fight it out for the win and bring the car home 3rd.
Paul Anthony
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And instead they chose the option that guaranteed they were going to lose the race and put them under even more pressure in the championship. It was the wrong call, and when it all dies down tomorrow, even they'll admit that.
When you're fighting for a title with both drivers, there will be situations where you simply can't make decisions based on fairness for both drivers. At some point you'll have to make a decision that's ruthless and upsets one side or the other. Today was one of them and they chose the worst possible option.
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skybluecam
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They should probably have just pit them both, but it would have lost Lando a few positions that he would’ve struggled to get back (given he couldn’t overtake on fresher tyres).
But Oscar would’ve won the race yeah.
StrettoBoy
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Ah, that makes a difference. They said he would need second but perhaps that was before he managed to snatch fourth place on the penultimate lap.
StrettoBoy
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Spot on @skybluecam
It was clinching fourth that made the difference. Could be quite a big difference because, all things being equal, you would usually expect Verstappen, Norris and Piastri to be on the podium.
I hope Lando tries to get the win though. I think it could be dangerous to drive for third.
SkyBlueSoul
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It's stupid, just when you think they can't back themselves into a corner any more in the pursuit of ultimate fairness
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SkyBlueSoul
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Saw this online which is very useful (assuming it's correct, haven't gone through and checked)
covcity4life
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Should be a fun last race. Hopefully lando gets over the line. Literally
Paul Anthony
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Kimi Antonelli is 19 years old, in his first full season of F1. He made a genuine mistake last night, and now, because Red Bull are just that toxic and have been allowed to be for far too long, he's recieving death threats.
It's time someone told Helmut Marko to step back and belt up. If Red Bull aren't going to do it, then the FIA need to take action. Even by his toxic standards, this is bang out of order.
It's time someone told Helmut Marko to step back and belt up. If Red Bull aren't going to do it, then the FIA need to take action. Even by his toxic standards, this is bang out of order.
SkyBlueSoul
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tisza
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Ha watched a full season (and because Sky still highlight fastest race lap with that purple icon) hadn't realised it had gone
Paul Anthony
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So, how are McLaren going to totally bottle it this weekend?
Saddlebrains
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Paul Anthony
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I can definitely see it. Can't imagine hellebe too keen to obey any team orders.
In all seriousness, I just hope we get a clean race with no nonsense to spoil it. It'd be massive a shame if this title was decided like 2021 or with a Jerez 1997 type move.
Saddlebrains
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tisza
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going to be a strategy race. Max will have to back the pack up and hope someone can attack McClarens from behind. Then he risks exposing himself to the undercut. Could it all be about pitstops and yellow flags? Lando just has to survive the first lap even if Oscar sends one. Plus there will be team orders if Max streaks away or another scenario requires it.
We'll_live_and_die
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Lap 2 and Lando is already trying to bottle it by dropping off too far.
Paul Anthony
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Honestly, piss off Red Bull.
Skybluekyle
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They must teach their drivers just to race their own track and nuts to everyone else...
Skybluekyle
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Yuki: Penalty for what, bro?
Engineer: For turning for corners on a part of the track where there isn't any
Engineer: For turning for corners on a part of the track where there isn't any
Saddlebrains
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Called it would be a boring procession
We'll_live_and_die
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I thought Leclerc was gonna give Lando trouble towards the end, but is disappearing as the tyres wear.
Paul Anthony
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Phew!!!!!! Get in Lando!
Saddlebrains
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I'm quick enough to slate him, so I'll be quick enough to give him the kudos
Congratulations Lando Norris. An amazing comeback after Zandvoort, showed a pace and mental strength i didn’t think he had
I always miss the F1
. 89 days until we do it all again
Congratulations Lando Norris. An amazing comeback after Zandvoort, showed a pace and mental strength i didn’t think he had
I always miss the F1
. 89 days until we do it all againStrettoBoy
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Well done Lando!
Just go and do it again next year It will be interesting to see how it goes with all the technical changes.
It might even be George Russell next season.
Just go and do it again next year
It will be interesting to see how it goes with all the technical changes.It might even be George Russell next season.