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tisza

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #386
So Red Bull appealing Hamilton penalty
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #387
Hamilton, meanwhile, puts his money where his mouth is.

"Support, champion and empower young people"– Lewis Hamilton pledges £20 million from personal wealth for new social cause

"Support, champion and empower young people"– Lewis Hamilton commits £20 million from his personal wealth for 'Mission 44'.
thesportsrush.com
 
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CrawleySkyBlue

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #388
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Would be a dangerous precedent to say given Max's aggressive driving style. Sure there would be plenty of times going forward teams could point to him going into a corner way too fast trying to take a position that just wasn't there to be taken. Some drivers already say the give him more space because they think he'll try moves that are just not there and the only reason there hasn't been a crash is because they've done that cos Max isn't going to yield.

In the heat of the moment and with it having been so close between them for the previous corners and the adrenaline pumping you can make errors of judgement like this. And as I say Hamilton did eventually try to back out.

You could argue that similarly Max still had a lot of track he could have used wider out if he thought Hamilton was going to miss the corner. Sensible to go wider, risk the place but give yourself the opportunity to get it back later in the race in a superior car if you do. As Lewis had overcooked it he'd have probably still had an advantage overall anyway and could have driven off into the sunset. Instead he decided to take the racing line and got clipped. That could be seen as an error of judgement by Max to not take the more pragmatic approach. But like I say, heat of the moment and adrenaline pumping sometimes you don't take the sensible choice.
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I think you could also argue that Verstappen should have played the long game. Even if Hamilton were to overtake him (and made it stick), Max arguably has the better car and could still have easily won the race from 2nd. And even if Max were to have let Hamilton overtake and finished second, this would have been a much better result and would still have left max with a bigger points advantage, and avoided the £££ (important when there is a financial cap on spending) and also potentially avoided penalties down the road for using too many engine parts etc.

Perhaps if the roles were reversed, Hamilton, being the more experienced driver, would have let Max have the position & rightly played the long game. More easily said than done though and that's why we all love sport.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #389
CrawleySkyBlue said:
I think you could also argue that Verstappen should have played the long game. Even if Hamilton were to overtake him (and made it stick), Max arguably has the better car and could still have easily won the race from 2nd. And even if Max were to have let Hamilton overtake and finished second, this would have been a much better result and would still have left max with a bigger points advantage, and avoided the £££ (important when there is a financial cap on spending) and also potentially avoided penalties down the road for using too many engine parts etc.

Perhaps if the roles were reversed, Hamilton, being the more experienced driver, would have let Max have the position & rightly played the long game. More easily said than done though and that's why we all love sport.
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His long game is overtake him, or defend from him, at your peril however.

He wants people to hesitate.

Hamilton's one of the few who won't, tbf.
 
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CrawleySkyBlue

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  • Jul 27, 2021
  • #390
Deleted member 5849 said:
His long game is overtake him, or defend from him, at your peril however.

He wants people to hesitate.

Hamilton's one of the few who won't, tbf.
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Agreed
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #391
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #392
SkyBlueSoul said:
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I've never been a big fan of Seb, but I've got a new found appreciation for him this season. He seems a lot happier without the pressure of Ferrari on his shoulders.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #393
Red Bull request for review refused. Doubt we've heard the last of it from Horner, who I'm sure will be moaning and bitching to the press at every opportunity....
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #394
Paul Anthony said:
Red Bull request for review refused. Doubt we've heard theast of it from Horner, who I'm sure will e moaning and bitching to the press at every opportunity....
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He's got something in common with Trump, can't accept a result.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #395
This, apparently, is part of what constituted "new evidence" for Red Bull....

 

hill83

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #396
Red Bull, Horner and Max are seriously letting themselves down over this. Shame really.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #397
hill83 said:
Red Bull, Horner and Max are seriously letting themselves down over this. Shame really.
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Yea i agree now making themselves look twats tbh.
 

hill83

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #398
Saddlebrains said:
Yea i agree now making themselves look twats tbh.
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #399
hill83 said:
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I still feel aggrieved, and think Lewis got away with it massively

And still think his raucous celebration while his main rival in hospital having a CT scan due to him clattering him was distasteful and a sign of the prick of a man he is.


However

Red Bull can answer this in a better way than they are now. Blow Mercedes away the next few races and take the titles. Not this shite, childish, timewasting and pathetic
 

tisza

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #400
Stewards dismissive of Red Bull's claims which do seem contrived. Don't get what they thought they would achieve with an Albon simulated lap.
Things obviously getting personal in the letter they submitted.
Will try and find out what was in it as I'm a guest today at Hungarian GP of ... Red Bull
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #401
tisza said:
Stewards dismissive of Red Bull's claims which do seem contrived. Don't get what they thought they would achieve with an Albon simulated lap.
Things obviously getting personal in the letter they submitted.
Will try and find out what was in it as I'm a guest today at Hungarian GP of ... Red Bull
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Enjoy!
 
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tisza

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #402
Saddlebrains said:
Enjoy!
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Usually do but horribly hot. 36/37 today but in that bowl much hotter.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #403
tisza said:
Usually do but horribly hot. 36/37 today but in that bowl much hotter.
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Could be worse the Balkans, Greece, Southern Italy heading for low to mid 40's
 

olderskyblue

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #404
tisza said:
Stewards dismissive of Red Bull's claims which do seem contrived. Don't get what they thought they would achieve with an Albon simulated lap.
Things obviously getting personal in the letter they submitted.
Will try and find out what was in it as I'm a guest today at Hungarian GP of ... Red Bull
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Wear an LH shirt.....

Saddlebrains has probably got one going spare..
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 30, 2021
  • #405
olderskyblue said:
Wear an LH shirt.....

Saddlebrains has probably got one going spare..
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Il just go and retrieve it from the bonfire
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #406
What a fucking strange crash from Sainz

Not seen anyone lose it there at that pace
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #407
Saddlebrains said:
What a fucking strange crash from Sainz

Not seen anyone lose it there at that pace
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Guessing he got caught out by the wind, it just went on him without any prior warning.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #408
Them Boos Hamilton recieving

Like music to my ears
 

hill83

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #409
Saddlebrains said:
Them Boos Hamilton recieving

Like music to my ears
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Not having it mate. It’s F1. You are weird.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #410
hill83 said:
Not having it mate. It’s F1. You are weird.
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Passionate about F1. More than football tbf. Not sure how that makes me weird?
 

hill83

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #411
Saddlebrains said:
Passionate about F1. More than football tbf. Not sure how that makes me weird?
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Booing.
Liking drivers being booed.

I fucking love F1. But booing? Weird.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #412
hill83 said:
Booing.
Liking drivers being booed.

I fucking love F1. But booing? Weird.
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Same as I enjoyed hearing Rosberg being booed in 2014 when he punctured Hamilton at Spa, Schumacher and Rubens being booed in Austria 02 for the staged finish.

I like the fact that the fans at the track make feelings known towards a driver or a team that whats preceeded wasn't appreciated by fans is all.

Surely you get that?
 

hill83

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #413
It’s just not a thing I condone in motorsport.

Happy to agree to disagree though.
 
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Corrado

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #414
Saddlebrains said:
Passionate about F1. More than football tbf. Not sure how that makes me weird?
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Presumably you are not British?? Can’t see how you can be with the amount of hate you have for Hamilton- the greatest British driver of all time
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #415
Corrado said:
Presumably you are not British?? Can’t see how you can be with the amount of hate you have for Hamilton- the greatest British driver of all time
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British as a chippy dinner and pint of John Smiths mate.

I did used to follow Lewis quite closely until around 2017. But his gradual disappearance up his own arsehole and hypocrisy shown to so many things has just led me to dislike him with a passion.

Il agree, greatest British Driver ever and second best of all time. Just think his personality stinks and he's full of shit
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 31, 2021
  • #416
hill83 said:
It’s just not a thing I condone in motorsport.

Happy to agree to disagree though.
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Thats fair, i see your point
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 1, 2021
  • #417
What a start that was, absolute chaos! So much of it caused by Bottas/Stroll.

Fucking awful for McLaren
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 1, 2021
  • #418
Lando’s car retired
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 1, 2021
  • #419
What a shame. We had it exactly as we wanted it, Lewis and Max right together. That was the race everyone wanted to see.

That was very silly by Bottas especially, and Stroll, complete misjudgement from both of them. Got to hope we see a Max charge now. That or more rain.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 1, 2021
  • #420
Going to be a weird one. There's a band of hot weather behind this but now it's possible a big storm front could hit the end if this restart is delayed much more.
 
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